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Jun 19, 2020 - 8:36 AM
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John Smith
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So if you wanted to distinguish what content was on the very first physical release, what simple abbreviation would you use? Some vinyl releases did contain original soundtrack recordings. Or you would never distinguish them?
I would not distinguish them, as it's not that important to me. I just want the best possible listening experience. I'm not sure there is an abbreviation for this, other than what you can create yourself -- OFT/Original Film Tracks vs. RR/Re-Recording or something??
Sorry to chip in, but Last Child is simply pointing out what seems to be an obvious truth: FSMers – and all collectors for that matter (almost without exception) – make a clear and vital distinction between a “rerecording”, (regardless of how erroneous the original publicity is/was regarding the status of the music on disc), and the authentic “original soundtrack”, i.e., the music which appears on the actual soundtrack on the film.
I appreciate that this distinction may be irrelevant to you as a listener, but when you are conducting a close analysis of the score as used in the film – which you claim to do – then surely you make reference to that very specific music in your exegesis with previously-defined nomenclature. What terminology do you use in your analytical writings?
This distinction is particularly important in the case of the genuine OST of The Eiger Sanction, which is significantly different from Williams’ so-called rerecordings for the album. For example, “Training With George” on the film soundtrack has the main theme played by guitar, whereas the rerecording replaces the guitar with strings.
Furthermore, the rerecording takes this very short piece of music and expands it to twice its original length, fully developing it thematically into the track on the existing album. This applies also to other nominally “rerecorded” tracks that vary appreciably in length and content.
I suspect that Williams would be unhappy having no trace of his new orchestrations on any expanded OST release, as (I assume) he believes they improve the listening experience.
Of course, there could be some other reason for the veto which we know nothing about.
Needless to say, there are many fans out there who would love to hear the original OST tracks (unavailable on line). As much as I enjoy the rerecordings, I do miss the guitar on the "TWG" track (just as I miss the organ on the title track of the From Russia With Love album) and would like to have it immortalised on disc - with or without Williams' blessing...
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Sure, but an OST is an OST, the actual physical album that was first released - regardless of the type of tracks involved.
I would refer to such as the 1975 MCA album program.
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Jun 20, 2020 - 4:45 AM
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Thor
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Sorry to chip in, but Last Child is simply pointing out what seems to be an obvious truth: FSMers – and all collectors for that matter (almost without exception) – make a clear and vital distinction between a “rerecording”, (regardless of how erroneous the original publicity is/was regarding the status of the music on disc), and the authentic “original soundtrack”, i.e., the music which appears on the actual soundtrack on the film.
I'm well aware of the difference, but again:
a) The abbreviation OST has always meant only one thing - the original soundtrack album. It may contain original film tracks, re-recorded tracks or a combination of the two. The word does not make a distinction between them.
b) In terms of soundtrack listening, it makes absolutely no difference to me whether a soundtrack contains film tracks or rerecorded tracks. What matters is only how it comes together as a conceptual album.
appreciate that this distinction may be irrelevant to you as a listener, but when you are conducting a close analysis of the score as used in the film – which you claim to do – then surely you make reference to that very specific music in your exegesis with previously-defined nomenclature. What terminology do you use in your analytical writings?
If I'm analyzing the film score in context, I have no need to talk of any OST. Two different things.
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Jun 20, 2020 - 8:09 AM
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Last Child
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a) The abbreviation OST has always meant only one thing - the original soundtrack album. It may contain original film tracks, re-recorded tracks or a combination of the two. The word does not make a distinction between them.
But in a discussion that does distinguish the two types, as this thread began, it's important everyone is on the same page. I'm not sure the "original" in OST means "first release" as you suggest. To me, "original" would refer to the film music. I suppose saying "film version" would suffice, although it doesn't specify if it's the complete music or music as edited for the film.
Can someone else clarify objectively what the nomenclature should be? I'm reminded how "archive quality" (something in best condition to be archived) has the opposite connotation here for "worst quality" because some releases used scratchy acetates in archives.
To amplify on John Smith's earlier points, I recall someone insisting that the vinyl release of Mancini's "Experiment in Terror" was the actual film music. The cover reads "Music from the motion picture score" but the reality is it's a re-recording. One cue is completely different from the film version. When that happens, they aren't the same "soundtrack."
Btw, that film music is on the Twilight Time blu-ray, and really deserves a release.
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