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 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:00 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)

http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/star-trek-next-generation-ron-jones-project-81554/

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO SAY.

I have always known there were piraters out there but this takes the cake.

Check it out, you'll see what I mean. It is devastating.

I hope everyone who reads this who appreciates what we do at FSM, and buys our CDs, goes over to the Final Fantasy boards and STARTS FLAME WARS WITH THEM. RIGHT NOW.

It's the only way to stop the stealing and to keep me doing my label. (We try to send cease-and-desist emails to the ISPs but it's whack a mole.)

The only thing that is going to work is if you, the public, puts social pressure on these thieves to STOP.

I killed myself to do the TNG box set, it's not even making its money back, and now I see why.

If this doesn't change, I QUIT. FOR REAL!!!

Lukas

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:07 PM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)

UNBELIEVABLE! The posters are even thanking the man for putting this music up!

I can totally understand how you feel Lukas. This is disgraceful.

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:08 PM   
 By:   Senojanaidni   (Member)

impossible to go to this link???

what's the problem ? : free download of THE RON JONES PROJECT on this board ? crazy
understand your wrath LUKAS!

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:10 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Check your email, Lukas.

I'd also be warry of starting a flame war. Though those little bastards deserve a fate worse than the Human Centepede - I don't think theres much to gain by starting a cross-board war at this point. Cockroaches scatter and hide when light shines on them and I expect the same if FSM board members started throwing tantrums over there.

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:13 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)


I have devoted most of my adult life to FSM and this is the most devastated I have ever felt. I expect people to have my back or I'm done. Sorry but that's how I feel!

Lukas

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:13 PM   
 By:   spectrum   (Member)

Lukas - I was in tears just reading your post but once I went to the web page, the tears became a flood.

Every CD you have released shows how much you not only care but how much you love what you do and how you do it. The Star Trek Ron Jones Project took your level of love and care to a totally new height.

I am willing to do any and everything I can to help you stop this.

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:16 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)


Please register at Final Fantasy and tell them they are singlehandedly destroying the thing they love.

We are going to try to shut down their servers legally but since we've tried to do that before, I am dubious it will work.

Lukas

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:17 PM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

I dont think most people who come here regularly would bother with this stuff, its a pretty loyal bunch. There's not much you can do, but still, its pretty disappointing. And I certainly wouldnt like to think you may quit.

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:18 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)


We financially can't survive if half of our potential customers are now simply stealing the product. It means that those of you DO pay are supporting the rest, too. We are HOSED unless something changes.

Lukas

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:19 PM   
 By:   Harrison Castleberry   (Member)

Absolutely disgusting! I don't want FSM to end, but I can truly understand how you feel. What's even worse is that these assholes are so brazen about it and are even thanking the jerk who posted it! It's so sad that this crap keeps getting worse and worse. As far as your efforts are concerned, however, you have my undying support! Take care!

Cheers,
Harry

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:19 PM   
 By:   Shock-Wave   (Member)

Lukas - I was in tears just reading your post but once I went to the web page, the tears became a flood.

Every CD you have released shows how much you not only care but how much you love what you do and how you do it. The Star Trek Ron Jones Project took your level of love and care to a totally new height.

I am willing to do any and everything I can to help you stop this.


Ditto Spectrum. I love this boxset and I would never do anything like that. Is there a way to contact maybe the Better Business Bureau regarding this? I'm just thinking outloud here. Sorry if I sound like a novice. I am so sorry this happend Lukas.

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:20 PM   
 By:   David-R.   (Member)

Please register at Final Fantasy and tell them they are singlehandedly destroying the thing they love.

We are going to try to shut down their servers legally but since we've tried to do that before, I am dubious it will work.

Lukas


Keep trying! What they are doing is SICKENING. I will devote some of my next CD money to FSM to show support.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:22 PM   
 By:   Martin B.   (Member)

Crazy, it really is.

I've had a look at their forums and there is a thread on music which may not be posted http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/music-may-not-posted-legal-reasons-49829/ (which is crazy as isn't all music copyrighted?). Lukas, I don't know if it will work but try contacting the forum admin there and see why they can't treat your music the same as Varese (which apparently can't be posted there).

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:24 PM   
 By:   millifoo   (Member)

The poster's name over there is "Jessie" and claims to be in Ireland -- was there an order shipped to a Jessie overseas?

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:24 PM   
 By:   Sarge   (Member)

Lukas, I chimed in over there, for what it's worth.

Just remember that despite people like them, there are plenty of others who support what you do with their hard-earned dollars and their gratitude.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:27 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Ouch! That must indeed be a blow to the face (or however the expression goes) for something that you've put down so much money and effort into.

I'm sure there other FSM CD's out there in bootleg land too. That's just how it is these days, unfortunately. Hopefully, most REAL fans of the music and/or TV show will see the value in owning the REAL, physical thing and have no interest in having second-rate, pirated files.

Hopefully, you'll also be able to distanciate yourself from the frustrations of bootlegging in a few days, Lukas, and re-find the passion to continue releasing the quality products that you do.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:28 PM   
 By:   SCOREMIX   (Member)

Hi Lukas -

I also was in tears of just reading your post but was shocked as I followed that link and saw what you wrote there. I am very sad about that

Your label is one of the best film music labels and I hope you won't quit because that damn criminals. All your CDs till today are great. The Star Trek Ron Jones Project shows how much passion you put in it.

I am also willing to do any and everything I can to help you stop this


 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:29 PM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

I've posted. Come on guys, stand behind us.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:29 PM   
 By:   DJ3J   (Member)

This is deplorable and I will certainly be voicing my support for Film Score Monthly. Totally sickening.

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:29 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

I posted an irate condemnation of these pirates at the linked message board, Lukas. As much as I have to ration my soundtrack budget, I would never support this kind of outright thievery (and for something that's still in-print and readilly available! mad ). I would hate to see FSM stop producing soundtrack albums because of scum-sucking pirates like this. frown

EDIT: And I've been banned. What a shitload of fuck.

 
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