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 Posted:   Oct 25, 2020 - 7:27 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/16/media/disney-racist-warning-scli-intl/index.html

 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2020 - 7:34 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Maybe they should have a conversation on why they don't pay 90 percent of their employees a livable wage. How they almost have a monopoly in the film business. Or how their merchandise is made in foreign countries by slave labor in sweat shops making a dollar a day. Or how they're even farming out high tech jobs overseas. I guess the important thing to discuss with families and children are the depiction of Siamese cats in a 50 year old cartoon.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2020 - 7:53 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Maybe they should have a conversation on why they don't pay 90 percent of their employees a livable wage. How they almost have a monopoly in the film business. Or how their merchandise is made in foreign countries by slave labor in sweat shops making a dollar a day. Or how they're even farming out high tech jobs overseas. I guess the important thing to discuss with families and children are the depiction of Siamese cats in a 50 year old cartoon.

Was that you with the picket sign outside of the main gate?

 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2020 - 7:56 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Maybe they should have a conversation on why they don't pay 90 percent of their employees a livable wage. How they almost have a monopoly in the film business. Or how their merchandise is made in foreign countries by slave labor in sweat shops making a dollar a day. Or how they're even farming out high tech jobs overseas. I guess the important thing to discuss with families and children are the depiction of Siamese cats in a 50 year old cartoon.

Was that you with the picket sign outside of the main gate?


No, I'm to busy picketing my own employer.

 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2020 - 8:00 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/16/media/disney-racist-warning-scli-intl/index.html

Better a strong advisory than removal of the content.

 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2020 - 8:50 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/16/media/disney-racist-warning-scli-intl/index.html

Better a strong advisory than removal of the content.


Its not up to Disney to lecture me or my family, or anyone's kids. It's a PR stunt made to appease the snowflakes of the world. This just opens up a can of worms. Where does the moral outrage stop?

Advisory Warning for "The Parent Trap":

This film was made in a time when only straight people got married. Not all relationships are heterosexual nor does this film suggest only people of the opposite sex can love each other or be married.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2020 - 9:41 AM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

At least the films are still available, even if this is just a PR stunt to cater to all the reactionary snowflakes of the world. And why they need to do this with Fantasia is baffling to me since they’ve already removed the offensive material if the article is anything to go by as I don’t particularly trust CNN.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2020 - 9:57 AM   
 By:   spiderich   (Member)

It's not just Disney

I almost fell off my rocker when I saw an advisory at the beginning of a rerun of the pilot episode to Gilligan's Island!

Richard G.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2020 - 10:56 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

"Breakfast at Tiffany's" comes with mini-documentary placing Mickey Rooney's racist character into historical context.

Too bad it doesn't come with a documentary explaining the casting of George Peppard as the male lead. That really deserves an apology.

 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2020 - 2:32 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Eh, it doesn't bother me. In the slightest. If a disclaimer heads off initiatives to have the work edited or banned, who cares? Don't read it, skip past it, use the time to open your Zagnut wrapper, check your phone, crank on FSM, whatever. I don't believe that people of color who are sensitive to racism are snowflakes, or are any marginalized or otherwise badly treated group. They're sick of it. By putting out the disclaimer, it shows the company acknowledges those attitudes are wrong and outdated but are still presenting them uncut because censorship is also wrong. It keeps the work intact.

It's a non-issue to me. If it keeps the films intact and in circulation, I'm grateful.

 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2020 - 3:16 PM   
 By:   Ny   (Member)

None of this would be a thing if the actual administration in the States had phased out systemic racism the way it should have. Instead, under the current leadership, they seem to be doubling down and digging in, so we can expect more of this, like the taking down of statues - gaining ground where possible, if for no other reason than to highlight the lack of progress in the areas that matter. Fact is people still die in the states just for not being white. That's the issue.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2020 - 3:19 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

It's not just Disney

I almost fell off my rocker when I saw an advisory at the beginning of a rerun of the pilot episode to Gilligan's Island!

Richard G.



Lol, really? For what, the Japanese guy in the submarine who thought WW2 was still going on?

BTW, I don't think it's a crime to acknowledge that "some people WERE harmed in the making of this film." I think Scott McOldsmith summed it up perfectly.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2020 - 3:39 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

BTW, I don't think it's a crime to acknowledge that "some people WERE harmed in the making of this film." I think Scott McOldsmith summed it up perfectly.


I too can live with it, as long as they limit themselves to apologies for racial stereotypes. If they ever move on to having to apologize for ethnic, religious, or sexual stereotypes (Italians, Irish, German, French, Latins, Arabs, Jews, Catholics, Baptists, Muslims, gays, transvestites, cross-dressers, drag, etc.) the disclaimers will end up being longer than the films.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2020 - 7:18 PM   
 By:   spiderich   (Member)

It's not just Disney

I almost fell off my rocker when I saw an advisory at the beginning of a rerun of the pilot episode to Gilligan's Island!

Richard G.



Lol, really? For what, the Japanese guy in the submarine who thought WW2 was still going on?


I presume it was because the Professor warned the castaways about some headhunter tribes inhabiting nearby islands.

Richard G.

 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2020 - 7:44 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

It's not just Disney

I almost fell off my rocker when I saw an advisory at the beginning of a rerun of the pilot episode to Gilligan's Island!

Richard G.



Lol, really? For what, the Japanese guy in the submarine who thought WW2 was still going on?


I presume it was because the Professor warned the castaways about some headhunter tribes inhabiting nearby islands.

Richard G.


And this is proof its already gone to ridiculous levels. Here's an idea. Adults should understand the context of this stuff and parents should educate their children. I don't need Big Corp, Big Government or Big Brother lecturing me on social issues.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2020 - 6:55 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

None of this would be a thing if the actual administration in the States had phased out systemic racism the way it should have. Instead, under the current leadership, they seem to be doubling down and digging in, so we can expect more of this, like the taking down of statues - gaining ground where possible, if for no other reason than to highlight the lack of progress in the areas that matter. Fact is people still die in the states just for not being white. That's the issue.

This.

 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2020 - 9:04 AM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

No, I'm to busy picketing my own employer.

 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2020 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

I don't need Big Corp, Big Government or Big Brother lecturing me on social issues.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2020 - 9:07 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

The countries currently going through this stuff should form a long overdue (for many other reasons too) should install a new department. The Department for Common Sense. The amount of ridiculous overstating of values most of us believe in anyway would get rubber stamped "ridiculous".

BLM and political correctness in general should both be forces for what is really good behavior and common mutual respect and done right would be. But somehow every knee jerk idea gets rolled out to the bewilderment of any sensible person.

Instead of banning everything in sight there aught to be a general move for all official bodies to say that we learn from mistakes of the past and move on. Whitewashing the past is actually dangerous. Auschwitz is left standing for a reason. Knocking it down down would be a great mistake as it's a stark and harrowing reminder of how shit humankind can be.

I'm not that much against warnings, much better than outright bans, but they need to start simply saying these things were made in less enlightened times.

 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2020 - 9:33 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I think most people understand this. Again they're stroking their own ego by treating the rest of us like children. Following their logic we should have warnings in front of Superman, "Don't attempt to jump off your roof. You cannot fly." Or warnings in front of John Wick, " Don't fire guns at people, you could kill someone." Its not necessary. Next will have disclaimers in front of every classic novel. Or a disclaimer track to start every Wagner CD stating his political affiliation.

 
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