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 Posted:   Apr 27, 2022 - 6:39 AM   
 By:   Captain_Kaos   (Member)

Does anybody know the accurate chronology of "Sacrifice Of Angels"? I think it's this one, but I'm not sure:

1. Teaser Recap (DS9 Vol. I)
2. Opened A Hole In Their Lines? (Final Frontier)
3. Kira In Corridor Combat (Final Frontier)
4. Klingon Fleet To The Rescure (DS9 Vol. I)
5. Prelude To White Flash/White Flash Prophets (Final Frontier)
6. Dukat Searches For Ziyal/Damar Shoots Ziyal (DS9 Vol. I)
7. Welcome Back Captain/Garak & Kira In Infirmary (Final Frontier)

Is this score complete now or are some cues are mssing? I guess with approx. 20 minutes it is complete.
P.S.: I've listened to CD 4 with my headphones. I've noticed no mistakes.

 
 Posted:   Apr 27, 2022 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Does anybody know the accurate chronology of "Sacrifice Of Angels"? I think it's this one, but I'm not sure:

1. Teaser Recap (DS9 Vol. I)
2. Opened A Hole In Their Lines? (Final Frontier)
3. Kira In Corridor Combat (Final Frontier)
4. Klingon Fleet To The Rescure (DS9 Vol. I)
5. Prelude To White Flash/White Flash Prophets (Final Frontier)
6. Dukat Searches For Ziyal/Damar Shoots Ziyal (DS9 Vol. I)
7. Welcome Back Captain/Garak & Kira In Infirmary (Final Frontier)

Is this score complete now or are some cues are mssing? I guess with approx. 20 minutes it is complete.


A couple of weeks ago, jb1234 wrote here that the proper order has your 3 and 4 reversed, and also said that this is not the complete score, but all the highlights. (Also, most DS9 scores have several very short "play-on" cues where they cut to the station for four notes, or go to commercial with a flourish.)

 
 Posted:   Apr 27, 2022 - 8:29 AM   
 By:   Captain_Kaos   (Member)

Does anybody know the accurate chronology of "Sacrifice Of Angels"? I think it's this one, but I'm not sure:

1. Teaser Recap (DS9 Vol. I)
2. Opened A Hole In Their Lines? (Final Frontier)
3. Kira In Corridor Combat (Final Frontier)
4. Klingon Fleet To The Rescure (DS9 Vol. I)
5. Prelude To White Flash/White Flash Prophets (Final Frontier)
6. Dukat Searches For Ziyal/Damar Shoots Ziyal (DS9 Vol. I)
7. Welcome Back Captain/Garak & Kira In Infirmary (Final Frontier)

Is this score complete now or are some cues are mssing? I guess with approx. 20 minutes it is complete.


A couple of weeks ago, jb1234 wrote here that the proper order has your 3 and 4 reversed, and also said that this is not the complete score, but all the highlights. (Also, most DS9 scores have several very short "play-on" cues where they cut to the station for four notes, or go to commercial with a flourish.)


I see! Thank you. I skipped that. Wow! Twelve minutes left!? I know this episode quiet well, but I cannot imagine where these twelve minutes are.

 
 Posted:   Apr 27, 2022 - 8:35 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Does anybody know the accurate chronology of "Sacrifice Of Angels"? I think it's this one, but I'm not sure:

1. Teaser Recap (DS9 Vol. I)
2. Opened A Hole In Their Lines? (Final Frontier)
3. Kira In Corridor Combat (Final Frontier)
4. Klingon Fleet To The Rescure (DS9 Vol. I)
5. Prelude To White Flash/White Flash Prophets (Final Frontier)
6. Dukat Searches For Ziyal/Damar Shoots Ziyal (DS9 Vol. I)
7. Welcome Back Captain/Garak & Kira In Infirmary (Final Frontier)

Is this score complete now or are some cues are mssing? I guess with approx. 20 minutes it is complete.


A couple of weeks ago, jb1234 wrote here that the proper order has your 3 and 4 reversed, and also said that this is not the complete score, but all the highlights. (Also, most DS9 scores have several very short "play-on" cues where they cut to the station for four notes, or go to commercial with a flourish.)


I see! Thank you. I skipped that. Wow! Twelve minutes left!? I know this episode quiet well, but I cannot imagine where these twelve minutes are.


It's mostly just transition material, cues in and out of scene changes, so I think we really have all the major highlights now.

 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2022 - 5:46 AM   
 By:   DaveM   (Member)

I just compared both versions of "Hijackers / No Choice" and "Into The Chamber" from the 2016 ENT Vol. 2 and this years Final Frontier set. beware the picture dump:


The difference is the mix (2016 version is about 3,6 dB more loud, therefore more compressed and has more reverb) and the transition between both cues is different (longer on the 2016 one, simple fade-in on the 2022 one (the reason why the 2016 one is 6 seconds longer)). Other than that, its the same. Same take, same everything. But I prefer the Final Frontier mix. It's more natural.

Here the same but I reduced the 2016 version by 3,6 dB:

It's not THAT close on "Hijackers" because both cues seem to be mixed individually but "No Choice" has now a really similar wave image.

Same with "Into The Chamber"

Other than loudness it's the same track and take. The only difference here is that we got the "Recap" wich I really like.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2022 - 12:25 PM   
 By:   jb1234   (Member)

Does anybody know the accurate chronology of "Sacrifice Of Angels"? I think it's this one, but I'm not sure:

1. Teaser Recap (DS9 Vol. I)
2. Opened A Hole In Their Lines? (Final Frontier)
3. Kira In Corridor Combat (Final Frontier)
4. Klingon Fleet To The Rescure (DS9 Vol. I)
5. Prelude To White Flash/White Flash Prophets (Final Frontier)
6. Dukat Searches For Ziyal/Damar Shoots Ziyal (DS9 Vol. I)
7. Welcome Back Captain/Garak & Kira In Infirmary (Final Frontier)

Is this score complete now or are some cues are mssing? I guess with approx. 20 minutes it is complete.


A couple of weeks ago, jb1234 wrote here that the proper order has your 3 and 4 reversed, and also said that this is not the complete score, but all the highlights. (Also, most DS9 scores have several very short "play-on" cues where they cut to the station for four notes, or go to commercial with a flourish.)


I see! Thank you. I skipped that. Wow! Twelve minutes left!? I know this episode quiet well, but I cannot imagine where these twelve minutes are.


Aside from the transition cues, the big omissions are the three minute cue when the bad guys realize they have to evacuate the station (which leads directly into "Dukat Searches For Ziyal"). Also, there's a mammoth seven and a half minute cue of which only "Kira in Corridor Combat" is released. Unreleased portions include Quark's jailbreak and the entire mine destruction sequence up to when the Defiant enters the wormhole.

 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2022 - 9:53 PM   
 By:   Manakin Skywalker   (Member)

Just for fun I've been working on doing mock-ups of the unreleased cues from Sacrifice of Angels (and maybe a couple others in the future). Mostly it is indeed just transitional material, or very short (usually around 1 minute) reworkings of other cues. There are a couple smaller highlights that are still missing, such as when the Defiant leaves the wormhole (Weyoun: "Time to start packing!"), and of course the detonation of the mines.

I've only done three mock-ups so far, one of them was a cue I started working on at the beginning of the month (Opened A Hole In Their Lines) and ended up being on the new set, but I finished it anyway (there are a couple small differences in the episode version anyway, as I mentioned on a previous page), and am currently working on the next cue. I wish I knew the *real* cue titles, but I guess my made-up ones will do for now lol!

Opening Teaser (after the recap):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LXX8g2y_O7ZUZtJ9YtRwln2HQ3kf2bnM

Send In The Second Wave (after the main title):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/19KT4NEAYVonMLLPFidI8HlDWrKO0PPau

Opened A Hole In Their Lines (made it before the new set was announced (based on the episode take)):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1g5w_k8TIr2f8clPikjKeqxj13ReXF6CR

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2022 - 10:32 PM   
 By:   jb1234   (Member)

Just for fun I've been working on doing mock-ups of the unreleased cues from Sacrifice of Angels (and maybe a couple others in the future). Mostly it is indeed just transitional material, or very short (usually around 1 minute) reworkings of other cues. There are a couple smaller highlights that are still missing, such as when the Defiant leaves the wormhole (Weyoun: "Time to start packing!"), and of course the detonation of the mines.

I've only done three mock-ups so far, one of them was a cue I started working on at the beginning of the month (Opened A Hole In Their Lines) and ended up being on the new set, but I finished it anyway (there are a couple small differences in the episode version anyway, as I mentioned on a previous page), and am currently working on the next cue. I wish I knew the *real* cue titles, but I guess my made-up ones will do for now lol!

Opening Teaser (after the recap):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LXX8g2y_O7ZUZtJ9YtRwln2HQ3kf2bnM

Send In The Second Wave (after the main title):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/19KT4NEAYVonMLLPFidI8HlDWrKO0PPau

Opened A Hole In Their Lines (made it before the new set was announced (based on the episode take)):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1g5w_k8TIr2f8clPikjKeqxj13ReXF6CR


These are quite excellent. There's a clarity in Bell's orchestrations that make his music very amenable to mock-ups.

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2022 - 11:36 AM   
 By:   Manakin Skywalker   (Member)

These are quite excellent. There's a clarity in Bell's orchestrations that make his music very amenable to mock-ups.

Thank you! Yes I completely agree. Bell's music is particularly melodic/rhythmic in comparison to that of the other composers. That's not at all to say that it's more "simplistic" or anything like that, but it is more structured, which makes it much easier to both hear more clearly through all of the sound effects, and to transcribe note-by-note.

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2022 - 12:16 PM   
 By:   DaveM   (Member)

Really impressive mock-ups. Funny enough, I had yesterday the idea of creating mock-ups for some missing music from Enterpriseand maybe Voyager. I even had started a list with all VOY & ENT requests from the request thread.

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2022 - 1:36 PM   
 By:   Manakin Skywalker   (Member)

Perhaps that's how we'll continue to get more of the music going forward; not from intricately-crafted official releases that include the actual recordings, but just a bunch of random people mocking-up various cues here and there. wink

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2022 - 1:43 PM   
 By:   DaveM   (Member)

We still need someone who tackles TNG and Kurtzman Trek. Jeff Russo is really good at leaving out good stuff big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2022 - 7:20 PM   
 By:   musicpaladin2007   (Member)

We still need someone who tackles TNG and Kurtzman Trek. Jeff Russo is really good at leaving out good stuff big grin

Truth. Some of Russo's best stuff has not made it onto disc. He has used his spore drive theme many times and it never appeared on album.

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2022 - 4:39 AM   
 By:   DaveM   (Member)

He has used his spore drive theme many times and it never appeared on album.

But it is at least on his website http://jeffrusso.com/projects/2/

But there was a Sporedrive Battle in 1x09 or so wich had really good music that didn't got released. Or the moment in 1x03 when we first see the Discovery.

 
 
 Posted:   May 23, 2022 - 8:02 AM   
 By:   ScottDS   (Member)

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 Posted:   Jun 7, 2022 - 7:01 PM   
 By:   Matt S.   (Member)

It's always possible Star Trek III will be re-released by another label such as Intrada. They still have IV, V, and VI in print.

This may be the first time I've ever been right about something like this!!!

 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2022 - 7:03 PM   
 By:   Superman1701   (Member)

It's always possible Star Trek III will be re-released by another label such as Intrada. They still have IV, V, and VI in print.

This may be the first time I've ever been right about something like this!!!


Why’s that?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2022 - 8:06 PM   
 By:   Matt S.   (Member)

It's always possible Star Trek III will be re-released by another label such as Intrada. They still have IV, V, and VI in print.

This may be the first time I've ever been right about something like this!!!


Why’s that?


I'm never right at predicting what will happen around here.

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2022 - 4:48 AM   
 By:   DaveM   (Member)

More than three months now have passed and I thought (and hoped) we would get a replacement disc because of the REALLY audible (at least via headphones) cracks in track 4 & 14 of CD4.

It's also sad that out of the 78 minute runtime of the ENT disc only 66 minutes of them are consisting of new music and while I'm still very thankful that we got that music at all, there's still a bit disapointment everytime I listen to this CD. I kinda get the inclusion of Main and End credits but this is also the third time these cues are released on LLL alone but I'm ok with them.

We got a replacement CD of VOY vol. 2 because a one minute source cue was accidantly replaced by the end credits. Why we don't get a replacement on a CD with 2 Tracks with audible cracks and two already on ENT vol. 2 released tracks (Track 2: Hijackers / No Choice & Track 12: Into The Chamber)?

 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2023 - 6:04 PM   
 By:   funkymonkeyjavajunky   (Member)

From LLL website:

STAR TREK DS9 FLASH SALE! Celebrate the 30th Anniversary of DEEP SPACE NINE now with a 48hr FLASH SALE on our DEEP SPACE NINE VOL 2 COLLECTION (4-CD SET) and THE FINAL FRONTIER COLLECTION (4-CD SET)at the otherworldly price of ONLY $30 EACH!!!

 
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