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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12      Non-Film Score Discussion: Gleasonian Orchestral Melancholia    FIRST   PRIOR   8 9 10 11 12    NEXT   LAST   Last Post   Posted:   May 10, 2020 - 12:24 PM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) Did Jackie Gleason ever go to the Mai Kai? He must have, right?    Posted:   May 10, 2020 - 1:35 PM     By:   Octoberman   (Member) Wherefore art thou, Jim?    Posted:   Nov 8, 2020 - 12:46 PM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) My musical choices tend to be seasonal, for better or worse. During the period between, roughly, Halloween and New Year's, I listen to a lot of standards, jazz, and space-age bachelor pad music. And during these two months, my thoughts often turn to Jackie Gleason.    Posted:   Nov 12, 2020 - 8:23 AM     By:   Jim Phelps   (Member) My musical choices tend to be seasonal, for better or worse. During the period between, roughly, Halloween and New Year's, I listen to a lot of standards, jazz, and space-age bachelor pad music. And during these two months, my thoughts often turn to Jackie Gleason. I’m not surprised, given that you and LL are the most MidCentury Modern people I know. December is right around the corner, so I’ll no doubt be joining you in Gleasonland once again, as is our—and every mainstream FSMer’s— annual tradition.    Posted:   Nov 12, 2020 - 8:48 AM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) I’m not surprised, given that you and LL are the most MidCentury Modern people I know. I dunno, your immersion in 60s and 70s TV shows greatly surpasses ours!    Posted:   Nov 12, 2020 - 10:25 AM     By:   Jim Phelps   (Member) I dunno, your immersion in 60s and 70s TV shows greatly surpasses ours! Guilty as charged. It’s been a lifelong obsession of mine, and I’m still trying to make sense of those decades (with no luck).    Posted:   Nov 14, 2020 - 1:25 PM     By:   Jim Phelps   (Member) During our most recent “Cheers!” meeting, Howard L. wondered aloud why someone—me—would be obsessed over Jackie Gleason’s melancholia while at the same time be “disturbed “ over Henry Mancini’s melancholy film music. Uncle Howard, as always, makes a valid point, but Gleason records were never sold as comedic, whereas Mancini had a reuptation as a “light” comedy composer who scored the “hilarious” Breakfast at Tiffany’s. Gleason had a comedic background, but no one circa 1950s USA confused Gleason’s orchestral work for comedy. All of this makes me wonder just how much Jackie Gleason meant to the US audience. Gleason may have been a bigger icon than we remember.    Posted:   Nov 14, 2020 - 1:54 PM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) All of this makes me wonder just how much Jackie Gleason meant to the US audience. Gleason may have been a bigger icon than we remember. Those Gleason records were big sellers. EVERY household with LPs had at least one. You can even hear Gleason in the background on a Mad Men episode where they are playing cards. Gleason LPs were like the ambient/downtempo electronica of their era - relaxing music for harried postwar suburban adults to unwind to.    Posted:   Nov 14, 2020 - 2:05 PM     By:   Jim Phelps   (Member) Gleason’s sales success touches off in me an obsession for then-popular-but-since forgotten pop-culture phenomena. Stuff that has long-since been surpassed by the so-called youth culture. Given what pop culture has become post-1956 (or 1964), it’s nearly impossible to believe that adults by the millions connected with Gleason’s music as they did throughout the 1950s and early-69s. It’s yet another case of history being written by the winners, though as time rots on, rock music is looking more and more like a Boomer phenomenon.    Posted:   Nov 14, 2020 - 2:09 PM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) It’s yet another case of history being written by the winners... I think about this phenomenon often.    Posted:   Nov 14, 2020 - 2:16 PM     By:   Jim Phelps   (Member) It’s yet another case of history being written by the winners... I think about this phenomenon often. It irritates the hell out of me. Just as the 1960s are viewed in the US as a playground for dirty hippies, despite so much more interesting goings on taking place at the same time, so are the pop-culture events pre or concurrent Elvis Presley. These failings remind me of news cycles that can only handle 5 stories at a time; so it is with our pop culture memory. I choose to remember Gleason.    Posted:   Nov 14, 2020 - 2:29 PM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) It’s yet another case of history being written by the winners... I think about this phenomenon often. It irritates the hell out of me. Just as the 1960s are viewed in the US as a playground for dirty hippies, despite so much more interesting goings on taking place at the same time, so are the pop-culture events pre or concurrent Elvis Presley. These failings remind me of news cycles that can only handle 5 stories at a time; so it is with our pop culture memory. I choose to remember Gleason. To play devil's advocate, you can reasonably make the case that the more successful something is, the more likely it is to exert an influence, good or bad. But this does not take into account either 1) sudden changes in popular tastes, or 2) interesting, compelling branches that did not branch out further, for whatever reasons.    Posted:   Nov 14, 2020 - 2:41 PM     By:   Jim Phelps   (Member) Once I became aware of the pop culture sea change concomitant with Elvis’ arrival, I empathized more with the aesthetic and stylistic tropes of the vocalists and orchestras that were instantly rendered obsolete with the Coming of Rock and Roll. I enjoyed Rock, but felt more akin to Rosie Clooney and her ilk more than I ever did for those of the youth generation. Sure, my “side” lost, but I’ve never gone in for kiddie stuff.    Posted:   Nov 15, 2020 - 8:58 AM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) Ms. Birri and I are enjoying a late Sunday breakfast with plant-based, Soylent-green-like products meant to approximate eggs and sausage. And I must say, the Beyond breakfast sausage is indeed incredible. Anyway, this was paired with Jackie Gleason's classic "Lonesome Echo," featuring cover art by a guy from Spain. Maybe one of Graham's neighbors?    Posted:   Nov 15, 2020 - 2:54 PM     By:   Jim Phelps   (Member) After the 1956 Christmas album, Lonesome Echo and Movie Themes for Lovers Only round out my “Gold/Silver/Bronze” ranking of my most beloved Gleason Orchestra albums.    Posted:   Nov 15, 2020 - 3:35 PM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) After the 1956 Christmas album, Lonesome Echo and Movie Themes for Lovers Only round out my “Gold/Silver/Bronze” ranking of my most beloved Gleason Orchestra albums. Where does "Oooo" rank in your Gleason pantheon?    Posted:   Nov 16, 2020 - 11:45 AM     By:   Jim Phelps   (Member) After the 1956 Christmas album, Lonesome Echo and Movie Themes for Lovers Only round out my “Gold/Silver/Bronze” ranking of my most beloved Gleason Orchestra albums. Where does "Oooo" rank in your Gleason pantheon? I’ve only heard a few tracks, so I can’t really make a valid judgment yet. I prefer the purely instrumental stuff, but what I’ve heard compares favorably with most everything else The Great One did at the time. The albums with far too “energetic” for me and are not what I seek when I “need” a Gleason fix. What is it about that damned 1956 Christmas album that makes it so beguiling? I don’t care, I’ll just play it again. At the end of the week we’ll be rolling out our garish Christmas decorations, so Gleason, Guaraldi, and all those other melancholy fellows will make their musical presence known...as they do every year at this time. Kudos to Howard L. for namechecking “Gleasonian Orchestral Melancholia” at the last meet up!    Posted:   Nov 20, 2020 - 8:58 AM     By:   Jim Phelps   (Member) Easy Listening Acid Trip: An Elevator Ride Through Sixties Psychedelic Pop by Joseph Lanza, a book I’ve mentioned before, is out. I’ve put it on my Christmas wishlist. https://www.amazon.com/Easy-Listening-Acid-Trip-Psychedelic/dp/1627310959/    Posted:   Dec 7, 2020 - 8:33 AM     By:   Jim Phelps   (Member) In the most recent “Cheers!” meet up, I droned on about how Gleason’s 1956 masterpiece Merry Christmas was my favorite Christmas “song.” Okay, so there is more than one song but what I meant was that The Great One’s take on any song included on that work of art is my favorite Christmas song; that’s how magnificent I think this album is. I also failed to express just what Gleasonian Orchestral Melancholia and the holidays meant to me without sounding like someone should call me an ambulance. Simply put: Gleason’s introspective and melancholy takes on both Christmas classics as well as those lesser-known compositions on the album allow a fellow like myself who doesn’t necessarily make his own “spirits bright” at the holidays still finds mucho happiness in Gleason’s approach to holiday music. Kudos to fellow Gleasonian OnyaBirri for having the album at the ready during the meet up!    Posted:   Dec 9, 2020 - 12:32 PM     By:   Jim Phelps   (Member) “Jingle Bells”     Non-Film Score Discussion: Gleasonian Orchestral Melancholia    << < 8 9 10 11 12  > >>  Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12

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