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 Posted:   Apr 4, 2024 - 6:36 AM   
 By:   jigawatts   (Member)

This score is a wonder. And this release enables a type of critical listen previously unavailable. For the first time in YEARS, I burned a CD. A complete and chronological compilation of all the tracks on both discs. Merging the songs in lets the score breath and most importantly let me appreciate exactly how Harold was operating. As far as I can recall, incorporating instrumental versions of hit songs in to a score is not how this is ever been done. But Harold, seemingly without ego, uses Danger Zone, Mighty Wings and others wherever it seems he thinks he couldn’t have done any better. Like John Barry using a Bond song as the basis for the themes in the score, Harold does this with multiple song written by other people. Some might say this is lazy but to me it screams that Faltermeyer had little ego and only wanted to do what would work best in the film.

FYI, Harold wrote Mighty Wings.

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2024 - 9:19 AM   
 By:   Andy C   (Member)

I have been waiting for someone to post something regarding track number #20…
Can somebody please clarify — if there is supposed to be this tiny disturbance / a glitch / absence of music… within this cue?
...Does anyone out there have the CD – without that silent gap; which happens around the 06:40 mark… on track number #20 — (CD: #1).
...Basically; have a look at the 06:40 mark of the track.


There's nothing wrong with that track: it plays absolutely perfectly on my physical CD with no glitch/dip/silence/etc.

If you're going to cast (unwarranted) doubts and criticisms on LLL's work, the very least you can do is to actually buy the product, rather than basing your opinion on some amateur hack's crummy, compressed (and illegal) upload.

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2024 - 6:04 PM   
 By:   Replicant006   (Member)

I feel like the last person on the planet to have never watched Top Gun (or its sequel, which I've heard is superior). But based on so much enthusiasm for the score, I've decided I'll purchase this release when new stock comes in. That first batch went way too fast! Plus, I'll purchase it just to support our wonderful labels out there. We've been spoiled beyond belief over the years with one fantastic release after another. Here's hoping it's restocked soon.

Edit: And a big thank you to MV for continuing to stay active on this forum, despite the nastiness we tend to sling around here from time to time.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2024 - 6:59 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I feel like the last person on the planet to have never watched Top Gun (or its sequel, which I've heard is superior). But based on so much enthusiasm for the score, I've decided I'll purchase this release when new stock comes in. That first batch went way too fast! Plus, I'll purchase it just to support our wonderful labels out there. We've been spoiled beyond belief over the years with one fantastic release after another. Here's hoping it's restocked soon.

Edit: And a big thank you to MV for continuing to stay active on this forum, despite the nastiness we tend to sling around here from time to time.


I hope you enjoy both films. I love TOP GUN, but MAVERICK is far superior, one of my all time favorite films in fact!

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2024 - 8:03 PM   
 By:   Tom Maguire   (Member)

Doing this is something I was considering too for the same reasons. I don’t suppose you would mind posting the order of the tracks?

I’m redoing it to make some tweaks. Workshopping it now and will post the 2CD Complete & Chronological “Final Cut” after a couple days of listens.

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2024 - 8:07 PM   
 By:   Tom Maguire   (Member)

I feel like the last person on the planet to have never watched Top Gun (or its sequel, which I've heard is superior). But based on so much enthusiasm for the score, I've decided I'll purchase this release when new stock comes in. That first batch went way too fast! Plus, I'll purchase it just to support our wonderful labels out there. We've been spoiled beyond belief over the years with one fantastic release after another. Here's hoping it's restocked soon.

Edit: And a big thank you to MV for continuing to stay active on this forum, despite the nastiness we tend to sling around here from time to time.


My suggestion is to watch it with friends, have some drinks and don’t feel guilty about going a little Mystery Science Theater 3000 on it. It’s one of if not the slickest pieces of Cowboy Diplomacy propaganda to have ever come of out Hollywood. The most glorious relic of the 80s we have. If I sound like I love/hate it, I do.

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2024 - 6:40 AM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)


My suggestion is to watch it with friends, have some drinks and don’t feel guilty about going a little Mystery Science Theater 3000 on it.


Or better yet, go Mystery Science Theater 3000 LEGIT! The writers and performers of that show did a Riff on the whole movie via their Rifftrax platform.

https://www.rifftrax.com/top-gun

With regards to the movie itself, I do have some thoughts.

1. The whole premise is silly. The military is sending the best pilots to be trained to be better pilots. Shouldn't we be sending the 'not-so-best' pilots to be trained so they can fight on the same level? As stated in the film's features, what they would do is have pilots go to Top Gun, train with the best and once they've graduated, go back to their squad and train THEM to be better pilots.

2. Top Gun Trophy. The military advisors who worked on this film are very quick to point out that this competition to be the best Pilot at Top Gun was created purely for the movie. If there was such a competition, no one would graduate! And that makes a lot of sense. Why waste attention and energy trying to beat someone who's on your side when it should be all about improving your skills?

3. While the opening text states that the purpose of Top Gun succeeded, in this movie it does not. When Jester gives a briefing on the purpose of the school, he states the following.


During Korea, the Navy kill ratio was 12 to 1. We shot down 12 of their jets for every one of ours. During Vietnam, that ratio fell to 3 to 1. Our pilots became dependent on missiles. They lost some of their dogfighting skills. Now TOP GUN was created to teach ACM, Air Combat Maneuvering. Dogfighting. At the end of Vietnam that ratio was back up to 12 to 1. Blinds please.


So not long after our heroes graduate Top Gun, they're immediately put into a combat situation on the very next day. How do their skills fair?

Enemy: Six Migs
Navy: Two F-14s

Result: Hollywood is shot down by a MIG at the very start of the battle. Iceman loses one of his engines to gun fire, and Maverick disengages for a whole minute before re-engaging. Even though the battle is won and and our heroes shoot down four Migs, this is unquestionably NOT the desired result that Top Gun was going for.

Remember the part of Jester's giving the pilots a brief history of Top Gun and how "Pilots became dependent on missiles" was a cause for why pilots started getting worse? Well, that issue happens in the final battle verbatim! Iceman and Maverick only use missiles in combat and the F-14 guns are never used or even mentioned. It's made worse when we get this line after Maverick fails to shoot down a Mig with a missile.

"There's a problem. We only have one missile left."

YOU... HAVE... GUNS!!!! And to top it all off, Maverick defeats the Mig by using a maneuver he didn't even learn at Top Gun. So what was the point? Maverick would likely have been better off if he had never gone to the Top Gun school. Goose would certainly not be dead. And now the Navy's kill ratio is 4 to 1, though I think it's more 4 to 1.5 since Ice lost an engine in his F-14 which means his plane is going in for really expensive repair work. So there you go. Top Gun, as depicted in this movie, actually makes your best pilots worse.

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2024 - 9:42 AM   
 By:   Michael Scorefan   (Member)

I feel like the last person on the planet to have never watched Top Gun (or its sequel, which I've heard is superior). But based on so much enthusiasm for the score, I've decided I'll purchase this release when new stock comes in. That first batch went way too fast! Plus, I'll purchase it just to support our wonderful labels out there. We've been spoiled beyond belief over the years with one fantastic release after another. Here's hoping it's restocked soon.

Edit: And a big thank you to MV for continuing to stay active on this forum, despite the nastiness we tend to sling around here from time to time.


Your mileage may vary, but I thought both films were a bit on par with each other. I give the original the edge, since Maverick recycles a fair amount from the first film. That said, Maverick has the better flight sequences. Both are basically expensive infomercials for the Navy.

La-La Land's release? Utterly fantastic. I have had this set on play repeatedly since I got it and can't recommend it enough. If you give the movies a chance, I hope you enjoy them. Regardless, you won't regret the soundtrack purchase.

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2024 - 12:39 PM   
 By:   FarTraveler   (Member)

I’m redoing it to make some tweaks. Workshopping it now and will post the 2CD Complete & Chronological “Final Cut” after a couple days of listens.

Looking forward to it!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2024 - 6:24 AM   
 By:   O.S.T.86   (Member)

Hi,

Further to the current offer (25% OFF YOUR ENTIRE ORDER), I would like to know if Top Gun will be available before the end of the sale on April 16th.


Samuel

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2024 - 10:51 AM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

Hi,

Further to the current offer (25% OFF YOUR ENTIRE ORDER), I would like to know if The Lost World will be available before the end of the sale on April 16th.


Samuel




James

 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2024 - 3:17 PM   
 By:   Tom Maguire   (Member)


My suggestion is to watch it with friends, have some drinks and don’t feel guilty about going a little Mystery Science Theater 3000 on it.


Or better yet, go Mystery Science Theater 3000 LEGIT! The writers and performers of that show did a Riff on the whole movie via their Rifftrax platform.

https://www.rifftrax.com/top-gun

With regards to the movie itself, I do have some thoughts.

1. The whole premise is silly. The military is sending the best pilots to be trained to be better pilots. Shouldn't we be sending the 'not-so-best' pilots to be trained so they can fight on the same level? As stated in the film's features, what they would do is have pilots go to Top Gun, train with the best and once they've graduated, go back to their squad and train THEM to be better pilots.

2. Top Gun Trophy. The military advisors who worked on this film are very quick to point out that this competition to be the best Pilot at Top Gun was created purely for the movie. If there was such a competition, no one would graduate! And that makes a lot of sense. Why waste attention and energy trying to beat someone who's on your side when it should be all about improving your skills?

3. While the opening text states that the purpose of Top Gun succeeded, in this movie it does not. When Jester gives a briefing on the purpose of the school, he states the following.


During Korea, the Navy kill ratio was 12 to 1. We shot down 12 of their jets for every one of ours. During Vietnam, that ratio fell to 3 to 1. Our pilots became dependent on missiles. They lost some of their dogfighting skills. Now TOP GUN was created to teach ACM, Air Combat Maneuvering. Dogfighting. At the end of Vietnam that ratio was back up to 12 to 1. Blinds please.


So not long after our heroes graduate Top Gun, they're immediately put into a combat situation on the very next day. How do their skills fair?

Enemy: Six Migs
Navy: Two F-14s

Result: Hollywood is shot down by a MIG at the very start of the battle. Iceman loses one of his engines to gun fire, and Maverick disengages for a whole minute before re-engaging. Even though the battle is won and and our heroes shoot down four Migs, this is unquestionably NOT the desired result that Top Gun was going for.

Remember the part of Jester's giving the pilots a brief history of Top Gun and how "Pilots became dependent on missiles" was a cause for why pilots started getting worse? Well, that issue happens in the final battle verbatim! Iceman and Maverick only use missiles in combat and the F-14 guns are never used or even mentioned. It's made worse when we get this line after Maverick fails to shoot down a Mig with a missile.

"There's a problem. We only have one missile left."

YOU... HAVE... GUNS!!!! And to top it all off, Maverick defeats the Mig by using a maneuver he didn't even learn at Top Gun. So what was the point? Maverick would likely have been better off if he had never gone to the Top Gun school. Goose would certainly not be dead. And now the Navy's kill ratio is 4 to 1, though I think it's more 4 to 1.5 since Ice lost an engine in his F-14 which means his plane is going in for really expensive repair work. So there you go. Top Gun, as depicted in this movie, actually makes your best pilots worse.


So yeah, I hate to be the bearer of bad news here but sadly, it turns out Top Gun does not stand up to any kind of logical analysis.

 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2024 - 3:39 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)



So yeah, I hate to be the bearer of bad news here but sadly, it turns out Top Gun does not stand up to any kind of logical analysis.


Luckily, it wasn't meant to. It was a live action cartoon that was a lot of fun to watch and listen to.

 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2024 - 3:56 PM   
 By:   Tom Maguire   (Member)

Alright, here’s my Complete & Chronological ScoreTrack™
Gonna burn 2CDs. Playlist has been on heavy rotation for the whole 2024 Eclipse Trip and it’s candy for the ears.
Note, I edited out the fade ins and fade outs on the score cues that needed it.
Also, made some judgement calls with leaving certain tracks out.
And if the D# T## numbering system is confusing I can remove it


Disc 1
D1 T01 Main Title* 2:41
D1 T02 Carrier Takeoffs and Landings** 1:46
D2 T01 Danger Zone - Kenny Loggins 3:36
D1 T03 Two Migs, Not One†/Cougar Chased by Mig/Mav Flips the Bird*/Cougar’s Troubled Landing 6:58
D1 T04 Mav Goes to Fightertown** 1:49
D2 T04 Lead Me On - Teena Marie 3:47
D2 T06 Hot Summer Nights - Miami Sound Machine 3:38
D1 T05 Jester Flying*** 3:10
D1 T06 Tower Flyby* 1:10
D2 T08 Through the Fire - Larry Greene 3:45
D1 T07 Viper Comes Down on Mav 0:50
D1 T08 Mav and Goose In Room 2:06
D2 T03 Playing With the Boys - Kenny Loggins 3:59
D1 T09 Dinner at Charlie’s§ 1:32
D2 T11 (Sittin’ On) the Dock of the Bay - Otis Redding 2:41
D1 T10 Mav Says Goodbye to Charlie§ 2:40
D2 T07 Heaven In Your Eyes - Loverboy 4:04
D2 T05 Take My Breath Away - Berlin 4:15


Disc 2
D1 T12 Mav vs Viper 2:11
D1 T13 End Locker Room and Photo 0:46
D2 T13 Great Balls of Fire - Jerry Lee Lewis 1:50
D1 T14 Aerial Sequence** 1:27
D1 T15 Goose’s Death/Memories 4:10
D1 T16 Mav Reflects in Goose’s Room/Board of Inquiry/Charlie and Mav in Airport Bar 11:03
D1 T17 Viper’s House Pt. 1# 1:15
D1 T18 Viper’s House Pt. 2 1:57
D2 T09 Destination Unknown - Marietta 3:48
D1 T19 Carrier Ready Room and Takeoffs# 2:47
D1 T20 Mav is Launched/Mav Bugs Out/Mav Returns to Battle#/Return to Carrier* 11:11
D2 T14 You’ve Lost That Lovin’ Feelin’ - The Righteous Brothers 3:42
D2 T02 Mighty Wings - Cheap Trick 3:51

Bonus

D2 T16 Dog Fight #3” - Harold Faltermeyer 2:40
D2 T12 Memories - Harold Faltermeyer 2:55
D2 T17 Radar Radio” - Giorgio Moroder feat. Joe Pizzulo 3:42
D2 T20 Top Gun Theme (extended album mix) 4:44

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2024 - 4:25 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

My CD was shipped from LA to Norway on march 23. Still "in transit".

Anyone else still waiting?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 22, 2024 - 12:24 AM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

My CD was shipped from LA to Norway on march 23. Still "in transit".

Anyone else still waiting?


Ordered mine March 3 from SAE. It's floating around somewhere in the Washington, D.C. area, despite my living on the West Coast...

 
 Posted:   Apr 22, 2024 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

Glad I’m not the only one. Mine has been “in transit” for almost two months.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 22, 2024 - 12:21 PM   
 By:   Clark Wayne   (Member)

Not this CD I know, as mine got to the UK quickly, but I've been waiting a month on a copy of the Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome CD from Japan.

I wonder if it has gone surface mail?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 22, 2024 - 12:24 PM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)

My package from Intrada, which contained Top Gun, was posted on 8th April and arrived on 19th April - I live in England.

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2024 - 3:48 PM   
 By:   Tom Maguire   (Member)

Jester Flying might have moved to top 5 Action Cues of the 80s for me - along with Desert Chase and Hollywood Blvd Chase. I can’t get enough.

 
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