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 Posted:   Dec 4, 2022 - 8:15 AM   
 By:   Adam.   (Member)

I received mine on 12-12-12 so I have another eight days before my 10 year celebration. smile

 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2022 - 7:37 AM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

Once upon a time most of this set was available on Spotify / Amazon Music / etc. excepting the albums that were already published by GNP (The Cage / Where No Man Has Gone Before, Amok Time / Doomsday Machine, and so on.) All the GNP albums are still around.

What magic allowed this to happen and what would have to happen for it to happen again? I only ask because it's a little sad to me that this music is only available on an expensive and now sold out (yay!) box set.

So I'm listening to one disc per day. Day Three: Fred Steiner Day! Charlie X, Mudd's Women, Corbomite Maneuver, Balance of Terror, and What are Little Girls Made Of.

This is my favorite disc.

 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2022 - 9:02 AM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)



I only ask because it's a little sad to me that this music is only available on an expensive and now sold out (yay!) box set.



I still have my copy unopened, sitting in a box with a lot of my other CDs. They will probably stay there until I move. Strange thing is, I'm finding titles I have no knowledge of buying. I recently came across a copy of Cahill: U.S. Marshall I can't remember purchasing.

 
 Posted:   May 28, 2023 - 2:57 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

A used copy of the box set is asking $1349.99 on eBay. It won't necessarily sell for that much, but still:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/304845029062

I'm glad I bought it on day one in 2012, along with a bunch of us here. I've been listening to it on and off all night, on a work from home shift. I don't really care about the scarcity and dollar value of this thing; it's the music itself. That's what's great about it. I wish it was more available, not less.

Incidentally:

Earlier in this thread, it was said that "Friday's Child" has a track with print-through, a faint echo in the tape due to its age. It's "Coochy Coo/Godfathers" (S2 D1 T33). I don't hear it. Can anybody else hear a print-through tape echo?

I'm just hearing such good sound throughout the box (especially having replaced the library cues with upgrades from the 50th Anniversary set). So good.

 
 
 Posted:   May 28, 2023 - 10:52 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Earlier in this thread, it was said that "Friday's Child" has a track with print-through, a faint echo in the tape due to its age. It's "Coochy Coo/Godfathers" (S2 D1 T33). I don't hear it. Can anybody else hear a print-through tape echo?


 
 
 Posted:   May 28, 2023 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   Martin B.   (Member)


I'm just hearing such good sound throughout the box (especially having replaced the library cues with upgrades from the 50th Anniversary set). So good.


I keep meaning to do that - just for some reason it seems a daunting task.

 
 Posted:   May 28, 2023 - 12:34 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

A used copy of the box set is asking $1349.99 on eBay. It won't necessarily sell for that much, but still:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/304845029062

I'm glad I bought it on day one in 2012, along with a bunch of us here. I've been listening to it on and off all night, on a work from home shift. I don't really care about the scarcity and dollar value of this thing; it's the music itself. That's what's great about it. I wish it was more available, not less.


Oy vey. When I had my house fire, this is one box I was panicking over because I knew I'd never be able to replace it for a fair price. But, thankfully, the discs sustained no damage and not only was I able to replace the cases, La La Land sent me a new box for it. So it's on the shelf just like the day I first unwrapped it. The only box they couldn't replace (and they generously sent me a 4 spare boxes for my other sets gratis) was for the Lost in Space release. But the discs are fine as are the inserts.

 
 
 Posted:   May 28, 2023 - 3:52 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)


I'm just hearing such good sound throughout the box (especially having replaced the library cues with upgrades from the 50th Anniversary set). So good.




Before I got around to playing the whole set, I learned that the 15CD set I had invested well over $200 in contained inferior-sounding library cues and that if I wanted a single CD of those same library cues in better quality, I'd have to pay another $50+ to get it.

 
 Posted:   May 28, 2023 - 5:03 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Attaboy! That’ll show those money-grubbing folks at La-La Land!

wink

Ignorance is bliss.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   May 28, 2023 - 5:19 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

That’ll show those money-grubbing folks at La-La Land!

Yavar




Got an email from them a couple of days ago...
Prices slashed on Volume 1 and Volume 4 of Goldsmith's Fox sets.
Horner's Glory at almost half-price too.
And Williams' Saving Private Ryan marked down to $10.
Looks like Alex North isn't the only one whose music doesn't sell fast enough.

 
 Posted:   May 28, 2023 - 6:33 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Before I got around to playing the whole set, I learned that the 15CD set I had invested well over $200 in contained inferior-sounding library cues and that if I wanted a single CD of those same library cues in better quality, I'd have to pay another $50+ to get it.


When the box set was pressed, the library cues were from the best source known to exist. When the better library cue reels showed up on eBay about four years later, La La Land got them and had to decide whether to vault them away in secret, or what.

Basil, even if you ignore the library cues altogether, the box still has every episode score. All of that wildly iconic, incredible music, and sounding fantastic. You got a bargain!

 
 Posted:   May 28, 2023 - 8:23 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Basil knows all of that, of course.

He follows this board very carefully which is how he learned about the 50th anniversary set with the (slightly) better sounding, earlier generation sourced library cues.

But you see… he feels a sense of entitlement, as well as a need to complain about everything and make himself the victim of avaricious soundtrack labels. And he’d rather never listen to his expensive (but later rendered imperfect) TOS soundtrack box set, in some weird act of protest.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   May 28, 2023 - 8:34 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Before I got around to playing the whole set, I learned that the 15CD set I had invested well over $200 in contained inferior-sounding library cues and that if I wanted a single CD of those same library cues in better quality, I'd have to pay another $50+ to get it.

When the box set was pressed, the library cues were from the best source known to exist. When the better library cue reels showed up on eBay about four years later, La La Land got them and had to decide whether to vault them away in secret, or what.

Basil, even if you ignore the library cues altogether, the box still has every episode score. All of that wildly iconic, incredible music, and sounding fantastic. You got a bargain!


I am, and always will be, happy with the original 15 CD box, and never noticed any "inferior" sounding cues. But Basil makes a good point. Why not offer the improved sounding cues disc for free to buyers of the 15 disc box? Or at least sell it individually instead of in a hodge podge collection? Perhaps LLL considered the upgrade more of a completest thing since the original Box is certainly fine, as is. And they didn't want to deal with 4 separate releases of random upgrades and the animated show.

 
 Posted:   May 28, 2023 - 8:52 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I can’t believe this seriously needs to be explained, but here goes:

If those library music cues were released on their own disc, they would not sell well enough. Just a single disc of random library cues, in slightly better sound quality than was available four years before? C’mon. Putting them in that 4CD set (quite reasonably priced for its size, by the way) was the only realistic way of getting that material out into the world. And even that didn’t work perfectly, as I’ve seen that set get put on sale quite a few times over the years.

As for the suggestion that La-La Land should purchase those tapes off eBay, pay people to master them and manufacture them on CD, and then pay to ship them to everyone who purchased the big box set four years before (which had a price point set based on their expenses at that time)… well, it’s like you’re eager for LLL to go out of business sooner rather than later.

I for one still miss FSM, and I want the other soundtrack specialty labels to be able to continue what they do as long as possible.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   May 28, 2023 - 9:13 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

You don't have to "seriously" explain anything. I made similar points in my post. I didn't know they made a hefty investment in buying original tapes off ebay, and even if they had got them for free, I can understand needing to make a profit from them...but they might have still sold it both ways - as a single disc (for buyers of the 15 cd box), and as part of a 4-cd release. The TOS upgrades were the only reason I eventually bought the latter, when I found a cheaper used copy. The animated series music was a perk, but not enough to justify buying it new.

 
 
 Posted:   May 28, 2023 - 11:37 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

There are a couple of them on ebay currently. One Pre-owned played only once going for $1,349.99 plus $4.99 for Economy shipping and one Brand New Sealed for $900.00 with Free Shipping from Japan.

 
 
 Posted:   May 28, 2023 - 11:55 PM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)


Ignorance is bliss.

Yavar


Don't tell Arthur that.smile

 
 Posted:   May 29, 2023 - 2:09 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

The thing is, ANY recording ever made and put out could theoretically be remastered, remixed, revisited, expanded, etc. If you feel like an upgrade is worth it, by all means buy it, if you don't, don't.

 
 Posted:   May 29, 2023 - 4:23 AM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)


But Basil makes a good point. Why not offer the improved sounding cues disc for free to buyers of the 15 disc box? Or at least sell it individually instead of in a hodge podge collection? Perhaps LLL considered the upgrade more of a completest thing since the original Box is certainly fine, as is. And they didn't want to deal with 4 separate releases of random upgrades and the animated show.


Basil is bummed that these cues are on a $50 set? You should have seen how ecstatic I was when that set contained the end credits to Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan sans narration! That was literally my only motivation to getting that set and I happily paid $50 for a track that contained less. Heck, I even paid full price for that track again when it was incorporated into the full score proper on La-La Land's later release of the film's score.

And there's so much other great material on those sets that I keep revisiting. The animated series is super fun and the 'discrete' tracks were something I had no idea I wanted.

This stuff takes work and I'm happy to support La-La Land in making it happen.

 
 Posted:   May 29, 2023 - 5:53 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Well, for one, labels generally cannot simply release what they want any way they want. If they included these cues on a 4CD album and also on a single disc sold separately, they'd have to negotiate for two releases.

 
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