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 Posted:   Mar 10, 2021 - 11:41 AM   
 By:   NO NAME   (Member)

For those who can speak french !

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 Posted:   Mar 20, 2021 - 10:17 AM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Got my copy today...with the hard-to-replace 3-disc case cracked. mad

 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2021 - 11:15 AM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

Why dont you contact Quartet Mr Jack, they may be cool about sending you another case. Worth trying.

 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2021 - 4:42 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Why dont you contact Quartet Mr Jack, they may be cool about sending you another case. Worth trying.

Sent an e-mail to The Movie Music store, hope they can help me out. I'd hate to have to spend twenty bucks to buy ten of them off of Amazon.

BTW, is there a track listing in English?

 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2021 - 5:14 PM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

See earlier in the thread, page 1 plus important posts after it with a few corrections.


Btw that reminds me, i have on good authority from the man who wrote the original track titles..21 should not be ..

21. Meeting with Father Ramirez / Forgive me brother / He will help you defend yourself (2:38)

It should read...

21. Meeting with Father Ramirez / Forgive me brother / It will help your digestion (2:38)

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2021 - 1:06 PM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

Gbu screening on Paramount channel in uk tonight

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2021 - 1:16 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Got my copy today...with the hard-to-replace 3-disc case cracked. mad

Yes, my CD tray also was in shambles. I replaced it with a Hama multi-CD jewel case.

 
 
 Posted:   May 11, 2021 - 5:44 PM   
 By:   Lil Brutto   (Member)

...For the Quartet set, it became a case of largely, but not necessarily always precisely, moving in step with the extended cut. Music largely or entirely unique to other cuts or language tracks, as well as for deleted scenes, was mostly placed in sequence.


We deliberately moved a few things to the ‘Bonus’ section. Like the “Intermezzo musicale”, which is slightly different to the film version and the only performance/take we had. In that case, the cue was short and kind of musically at odds with the architecture of the rest of the score.


Hi all. I just registered today and this is my first post. Sorry for being late to the party. I am one of the fans who assisted Kino Lorber in their UHD/BD release of the International Cut. I am blown away by Quartet's 3CD release. Congrats to Chris Malone and his team for making this stellar release a reality!

It's amazing to finally have the complete film score with all the cues that were used, not only for the Italian Cut with additional scenes (home release version) but also for the even longer first Italian theatrical release version with the lost "skeleton shot" footage [CD1 Track 16. Il deserto secondo (2:39)] towards the end of the desert scene.

Some suspect that CD2 Track 10. Tuco fa la colletta (1:05) may be the cue for the Socorro sequence given the (translated) title of the track, "Tuco does the collection". However, as others have already stated above, I suspect this was the track intended for the grotto scene (despite the track title not fitting the grotto scene). I think MGM screwed up on the 'Extended Edition' by reusing a music cue from the monastery scene (Track 20, part 2).

This music cue was previously tacked on to track 5 (Il ponte di corde) of the GDM & Capital extended CDs. Based on my admittedly rudimentary attempt to overlay this cue on the grotto scene nearly a decade ago, I found that it syncs and works quite well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MF52afW8lE.

I'm especially intrigued by CD 2 Track 17. Intermezzo musicale (0:23). I have a hunch this is, in fact, the intermission music. Chris, were the cues organized in the same sequence they occurred in the film? If so, Intermezzo musicale should have come between CD1 Tracks 20. La missione di San Antonio / Il mio miglior nemico veglia su di me (2:23) and 21. Incontro con Padre Ramirez / Perdonami fratello / Ti aiuterà a difenderti (2:38). Can you confirm?

 
 
 Posted:   May 12, 2021 - 12:30 AM   
 By:   Chris Malone   (Member)

Thank you for your work with Kino Lorber on the new BD, Lil Brutto! It looks like it’s going to be the definitive edition of this great film.

The “Intermezzo musicale” was used in the Extended Cut, playing at about 38:20 into the film with reference to the earlier-edition BD timings. It can be heard right after Tuco says, “If you work for a living, why do you kill yourself working?” (About the spot where you had “Tuco fa la colletta” in your YouTube video.)

This would place it between Disc 1 Track 11 “Tuco fa la colletta” and Disc 1 Track 12 “I tre desperados / Una cannonata provvindenziale”.

We mostly ran everything in show order, however the “Intermezzo musicale” seemed musically at odds with everything else—and probably not even meant to go where it did in the Extended Cut—so we relocated it to Disc 2.

Internal M-G-M documentation—prepared in the early 1980s and probably in line with the sale of United Artists and its subsequent merger and consolidation with M-G-M—doesn’t list actual cue titles. And it doesn’t reference this short cue, which would make sense as it doesn’t seem to be part of the Theatrical Cut.

It all gets a little tricky with the different cuts, language tracks, missing paperwork, and not to mention Morricone’s typical working methodology thrown into the pot for consideration.

There will be experts here who will know more and hopefully post to the thread!

Thanks for your support!

Chris

 
 Posted:   May 12, 2021 - 1:15 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I try not to re-buy stuff I already have anymore, unless there is really a significant improvement to be expected AND the score is really dear to my heart. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly certainly qualified for the latter part, and now that I have the edition, it is truly THE edition of the music to have. Great restoration, excellent sound quality.

 
 
 Posted:   May 12, 2021 - 7:36 AM   
 By:   Lil Brutto   (Member)


We mostly ran everything in show order, however the “Intermezzo musicale” seemed musically at odds with everything else—and probably not even meant to go where it did in the Extended Cut—so we relocated it to Disc 2.

Internal M-G-M documentation—prepared in the early 1980s and probably in line with the sale of United Artists and its subsequent merger and consolidation with M-G-M—doesn’t list actual cue titles. And it doesn’t reference this short cue, which would make sense as it doesn’t seem to be part of the Theatrical Cut.


Chris,

I appreciate you getting back to me so quickly and many thanks for the kind words.

Is there a possibility that "Intermezzo musicale" was intended for the intermission that was present in the early Italian theatrical release? We know for a fact that there was an intermission but up until the Quartet release we have no associated music.

Since MGM's documentation doesn't list the track titles, I presume you obtained the titles from Italy? Did MGM only have the music cues for the International Cut or did they have all the music (unused, alternate, etc.) in their vaults?

 
 Posted:   May 12, 2021 - 11:26 AM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

As i understand it, beyond the basic LP track titles, there werent any titles, just m numbers. The track titles for the first extended CD were done in italy by Patrick E, when he put the CD together for gdm in 2001.

 
 
 Posted:   May 12, 2021 - 12:49 PM   
 By:   Lil Brutto   (Member)

As i understand it, beyond the basic LP track titles, there werent any titles, just m numbers. The track titles for the first extended CD were done in italy by Patrick E, when he put the CD together for gdm in 2001.

Thanks for the info, but that doesn't explain where the title "Intermezzo musicale" came from since it wasn't included on the GDM 2001 CD. "Tuco fa la colleta" didn't show up on the GDM tracklist either since it was included on "Il ponte di corde".

Curious where these titles came from since they don't seem to fit the scene/part of the film where they were used. I'd like to figure this out since we are now trying to piece together the lost/forgotten early Italian theatrical version and I think the audio tracks may provide some clues. The Quartet release has helped in filling in some gaps.

Any info is greatly appreciated.

 
 Posted:   May 12, 2021 - 12:59 PM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

Well only Patrick can answer that fully (im sure he's reachable via Fuiano at gdm). but bear in mind they had much more music than what was included on the expanded in 2001. It had to be trimmed to fit 1 cd and a few things glued together to get it past morricone. So whether he gave a label to more unused tracks i dont know.

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2021 - 6:31 PM   
 By:   Illustrator   (Member)

Some suspect that CD2 Track 10. Tuco fa la colletta (1:05) may be the cue for the Socorro sequence given the (translated) title of the track, "Tuco does the collection". However, as others have already stated above, I suspect this was the track intended for the grotto scene (despite the track title not fitting the grotto scene).

Interesting. I've always associated it with the gun store, from the moment it becomes apparent to the store owner that he's being robbed to the moment Tuco leaves, it works as the music is lighthearted and for me that sort of braying mule sound works as the owner is such a sad figure.

Hope this works...

 
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