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 Posted:   Jan 15, 2022 - 3:31 PM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)

There is a scene in the film where Jack is driving over the bridge and it’s accompanied by a very short version of the main theme. Does anyone know if this is tracked in from another cue. It doesn’t appear on the original album.

 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2022 - 6:26 PM   
 By:   MutualRevolver   (Member)

There is a scene in the film where Jack is driving over the bridge and it’s accompanied by a very short version of the main theme. Does anyone know if this is tracked in from another cue. It doesn’t appear on the original album.

It's an alternate take of "Jack Leaves Elaine's Apartment", but edited down. It's preserved on the Blu-ray's isolated score

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2022 - 7:23 PM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)

There is a scene in the film where Jack is driving over the bridge and it’s accompanied by a very short version of the main theme. Does anyone know if this is tracked in from another cue. It doesn’t appear on the original album.

It's an alternate take of "Jack Leaves Elaine's Apartment", but edited down. It's preserved on the Blu-ray's isolated score


Thank you.

 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2022 - 12:31 PM   
 By:   MutualRevolver   (Member)

Received my package yesterday! I intend to fully dive into the musical contents later this week, but just from the samples I've heard, this looks like a fantastic release and the definitive presentation of this score. It's also great to finally have the film version of "Subway Station" and, as a bonus, the Ralph Grierson piece (which I tried to identify on Shazam numerous times but without luck)

And BrendonKelly, I was wrong: there is no alternate take. That bit of music is simply tracked and abbreviated from "Jack Leaves Elaine's Apartment"

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2022 - 1:02 PM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)

Received my package yesterday! I intend to fully dive into the musical contents later this week, but just from the samples I've heard, this looks like a fantastic release and the definitive presentation of this score. It's also great to finally have the film version of "Subway Station" and, as a bonus, the Ralph Grierson piece (which I tried to identify on Shazam numerous times but without luck)

And BrendonKelly, I was wrong: there is no alternate take. That bit of music is simply tracked and abbreviated from "Jack Leaves Elaine's Apartment"


Thanks for confirming this. I thought it was but then thought I was mistaken.

What’s the difference between Subway Station on the first release and the film version? I know it’s been split into two cues (although in the film it overlaps as it does on the original release).

 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2022 - 1:16 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)


What’s the difference between Subway Station on the first release and the film version? I know it’s been split into two cues (although in the film it overlaps as it does on the original release).


On the 2011 album, the track "Subway Station" contained both "7M1 Heavy Traffic" and "8M1 Subway Station" combined together. You can hear "Subway Station" begin at 2:47 into that track, with "Heavy Traffic" continuing until 3:09.

On the 2022 album, now 7M1 is in its own track ("Snippets/Heavy Traffic"), and so is 8M1 ("Subway Station")

8M1 has two versions, where the saxophone solo was a completely different improvisation between each version.

The 2011 album only contained the version that wasn't used in the film, leaving the film version unreleased.

On the 2022 album, they kept that unused version in the main program, and put the version used in the film in the bonus tracks.

 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2022 - 2:02 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I’ve always loved that track not only from 48hrs but also from the Commando trailer!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2022 - 2:28 PM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)


What’s the difference between Subway Station on the first release and the film version? I know it’s been split into two cues (although in the film it overlaps as it does on the original release).


On the 2011 album, the track "Subway Station" contained both "7M1 Heavy Traffic" and "8M1 Subway Station" combined together. You can hear "Subway Station" begin at 2:47 into that track, with "Heavy Traffic" continuing until 3:09.

On the 2022 album, now 7M1 is in its own track ("Snippets/Heavy Traffic"), and so is 8M1 ("Subway Station")

8M1 has two versions, where the saxophone solo was a completely different improvisation between each version.

The 2011 album only contained the version that wasn't used in the film, leaving the film version unreleased.

On the 2022 album, they kept that unused version in the main program, and put the version used in the film in the bonus tracks.


Thanks for the detail Jason. Looks like I am double dipping!!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2022 - 2:34 PM   
 By:   Mink   (Member)

Heavy Traffic being combined with Subway Station always bothered me on the old album. Both cues, but Heavy Traffic in particular, stand so well on their own that the combo always took the listening pleasure away for me.

This presentation now (together with the film version of Subway Station), really is how it should be presented IMO and I’m very thankful that Intrada decided to present the score this way.

Also from an archival standpoint I think it’s important to preserve these classic landmark scores with each cue separated.

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2022 - 11:58 AM   
 By:   MutualRevolver   (Member)

Made some new discoveries on this wonderful set. The biggest one is that "Subway Station" as heard in the film is actually an edit of two versions! Both of them included on the set, naturally. And "Aerobics" on this set ends without fading out, compared to the earlier edition.

There is one factual error in the booklet, though: it says that this edition was derived from the original mixes by Shawn Murphy. But according to IMDB, Dan Wallin was the score mixer for this film; Murphy mixed the sequel.

Factual error aside, this is a great set, and I'm happy to have it smile

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2022 - 12:36 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Very cool. I’m always happier without unnecessary cross fades.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2022 - 8:20 PM   
 By:   c8   (Member)

Well the best way for Intrada to get me to double dip on this fantastic score is for me to be going through my CDs to rerip everything in lossless and find my 2011 48 Hrs CD missing (the joys of finding an empty jewel case confused ). I think Doug broke into my house and stole it so I'd have to order.

All joking aside, maybe its my ears playing tricks, but this sounds like a massive sonic upgrade and one I wasn't expecting. I don't remember the organic instruments (especially the brass) coming through so crisply. Excellent work by all involved.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2024 - 11:07 PM   
 By:   c8   (Member)

Sorry to reply to myself a year and a half later but I finally watched the movie on a plane tonight.

To say its awful is an understatement. I was surprised to read how successful it was on its release. Perhaps it just hasn't aged well (it hasn't by any metric) or I am not the target audience, but the heavy use of some serious epithets for multiple communities layered on top of overly gratuitous sex and what I thought was lazy, deus ex machina laden writing resulted in a movie that was painful to watch.

Whatever it did, though, it inspired Horner. That jazz funk just NAILS the grit and grime of the street cop chasing the bad guy through San Francisco. The score is used sparingly and really comes in only where needed to propel the action, giving the movie some much needed peaks and valleys. The whole subway sequence is a master class in film scoring as Horner just absolutely keeps the tension to a 10 while keeping several minutes of not much happening feeling like its moving at breakneck speed. Of particular note, the film version of "Subway Station" is so much better than the album version and dials the tension up so much better than its album counterpart. I wonder why the film version is labeled as an alternate.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2024 - 2:01 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

c8, if you're watching it for the first time with 2024 eyes (and on a small airplane monitor, no less), I can understand why some elements in it are offputting.

But I saw it in the 80s, on VHS, and was totally captivated. I went into it expecting a lighter action comedy like BEVERLY HILLS COP, and was totally taken aback by how gritty and violent and serious it was. It instantly became a favourite. To be fair, I haven't rewatched it in many, many years, but that initial connection will be hard to overcome.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2024 - 2:05 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I remember I saw the movie way back when it came out and thought it was very interesting the way Horner had scored it. 48Hrs. may have been the third Horner score I came to know (after WOLFEN and STAR TREK II), and I loved that gritty, urban sound. The movie back then was quite violent, but original, practically a template for many of the cop buddy movies that would follow. I remember I liked it when it came out, though I haven't revisited it since.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2024 - 10:46 AM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)

c8, if you're watching it for the first time with 2024 eyes (and on a small airplane monitor, no less), I can understand why some elements in it are offputting.

But I saw it in the 80s, on VHS, and was totally captivated. I went into it expecting a lighter action comedy like BEVERLY HILLS COP, and was totally taken aback by how gritty and violent and serious it was. It instantly became a favourite. To be fair, I haven't rewatched it in many, many years, but that initial connection will be hard to overcome.


This right here.

I can look at an old movie or show and just not enjoy it as much as I used to, but to be put off by how said product of its time is something detestable now because society deems it so....my brain isn't wired that way.

Horner's first real score for "The Lady in Red" was for a film that is rampant with bullets and boobies flying everywhere...and 48HRs is the better film by a mile.

I'm never going to look down on that time the product came from, as if now is any better.

I last watched 48HRs back in the late fall. Just as much fun as when I was younger.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2024 - 12:44 PM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)



I'm never going to look down on that time the product came from, as if now is any better.


Fully agreed. Not only do I not think now is any better, now is much worse. I much prefer a world where everybody throws racial slurs and epithets at each other in good faith (like in the Gran Torino Barber Shop Scene) over a world where everybody curbs their speech in an attempt not to offend anybody. I think the most offensive thing are people easily offended. :-)

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2024 - 12:45 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Indeed! Preach it!

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2024 - 12:48 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

I'm never going to look down on that time the product came from, as if now is any better.

This. Unfortunately, the wankers from Moral Climate see things otherwise.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2024 - 1:25 PM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)

I had a much longer post that I kept hitting delete on because I thought, nope.....not the time or place.

But I really wanted to.

 
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