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 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 8:51 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Maybe I am in the minority, but I loved the red borders. I actually remade them in a more HD format.

Looks cool!

The (red) borders must be some sort of "Star Trek" thing, they are not unique to the FSM CD releases. GNP Crescendo had (red) borders around "Generations", "Insurrection", there was a (gold) border around the 25th anniversary STAR TREK - THE MOTION PICTURE CD, LaLaLand releases such as "The Final Frontier" or "Voyager Collection" all have similarly shaped border frames.

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 8:56 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

They were also a feature of the old Pocket Books paperback series (though it was three lines instead of two):





I like them fine but for my iTunes I either want them consistently on every Trek feature score, or off.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 9:41 AM   
 By:   johnonymous86   (Member)

I also dig the red border--GNP's rerelease of Insurrection had a single red bar that I thought looked much better than the OST.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 10:11 AM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

I hate borders with a passion and wish they'd go away for good. Somebody made a Rise of Skywalker cover that used phenomenal artwork... which was ruined by the inclusion of a border. I don't get the mentally behind it. The poster art looks great. Why add a border? As someone once facetiously speculated: maybe to prevent the art from sliding off the cover?

As to the music, the original album definitely felt like a disjointed bunch of cues thrown together. I liked it, but it was sorely lacking. Once I got the FSM version, I was in heaven. All of the gorgeous music that had been left off was finally available to hear in fantastic quality. That being said, the score still feels anticlimactic as all get out. "Returning to Vulcan" and "The Katra Ritual" are nice, but they make the score end on a whimper. Star Trek III has more beauty, but its conclusion still leaves me wanting more. Wrath of Khan never does.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 10:34 AM   
 By:   .   (Member)

Perhaps the artist whose work the poster illustration is should tell us if he likes the red stripes plastered over his work.
Perhaps he's thinking "Wow, those red stripes look really good. Wish I'd thought of that".

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 5:15 PM   
 By:   Adam.   (Member)

Worry not. The Intrada shipping manager is on top of things.

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2022 - 5:38 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

I hate borders with a passion and wish they'd go away for good. Somebody made a Rise of Skywalker cover that used phenomenal artwork... which was ruined by the inclusion of a border. I don't get the mentally behind it. The poster art looks great. Why add a border? As someone once facetiously speculated: maybe to prevent the art from sliding off the cover?


The border was added to some covers to distinguish them as a new edition. You could tell at a glance which release you were looking at. Also, it looked good or "more modern" at the time, just for being something new.

The 2003 James Bond editions got a variation of the border treatment, too. It set them apart from the old CDs even though they were contractually bound to use the very same cover art. It served a useful purpose.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2022 - 12:28 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

The 2003 James Bond editions got a variation of the border treatment, too. It set them apart from the old CDs even though they were contractually bound to use the very same cover art. It served a useful purpose.

It still "amuses" me that they were contractually bound to stick with original programs (thankfully bent a little by LK) and original covers, but were not contractually bound to spell all the track titles correctly!

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2022 - 12:29 AM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

Slipping this one into the player was like putting on a pair of comfortable old shoes. Just sit back and float away to the Genesis Planet and Vulcan courtesy of Mr. Horner and his orchestra.

I've always played "The Klingon's Plan" first. I love that big gong scrape as the U.S.S. Grissom reaches the Genesis Planet. One of the best of all Trek movie cues.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2023 - 8:12 AM   
 By:   panavision   (Member)

Listening to Stealing the Enterprise.

What a track. Remember the days of melodies that made you imagine the scenes unfolding in your head??? This track does it brilliantly.

Some real corkers on this soundtrack.

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2023 - 11:39 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Remember the days of melodies that made you imagine the scenes unfolding in your head???

Yup! Those days were just last year with Bear McCreary’s Rings of Power. wink

Totally agree with you on how wonderful Star Trek III is (in fact I prefer it to II in complete form).

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2023 - 12:31 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

Listening to Stealing the Enterprise.

What a track. Remember the days of melodies that made you imagine the scenes unfolding in your head??? This track does it brilliantly.

Some real corkers on this soundtrack.


Favourite cue but I really love the album version.

 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2023 - 1:07 AM   
 By:   Gold Digger   (Member)

Listening to Stealing the Enterprise.

What a track. Remember the days of melodies that made you imagine the scenes unfolding in your head??? This track does it brilliantly.

Some real corkers on this soundtrack.


Favourite cue but I really love the album version.


I made a film version edit of this cue to remove the deleted scene. Worked great.

 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2023 - 6:42 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

I love the score and the movie is my favorite of the series. It's a lovely, emotional companion piece to Star Trek II and in some ways - in complete form - a more enjoyable album on the whole. The expaned Wrath of Khan, while giving us a number of truly outstanding cues I always wanted, includes some very hard to listen to pieces in the first portion. Mostly the Ceti Eels section. With The Search for Spock, other than a couple of anvil banging pieces, I can play this in car from start to finish and not piss off my passengers (more than usual anyway).

It's hard for me to play one without the other, they go to gether so perfectly. Incredible work.

Favorite cues...man most of them, but Stealing the Enterprise, Sunset on Genesis, A Fighting Chance to Live and Genesis Destroyed. Those last three were on my must have list since opening day of the film in 1983.

 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2023 - 9:27 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Listening to Stealing the Enterprise.

What a track. Remember the days of melodies that made you imagine the scenes unfolding in your head??? This track does it brilliantly.

Some real corkers on this soundtrack.


Favourite cue but I really love the album version.


Me too, I prefer the album version and that's the one I have in my expanded playlist.

 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2023 - 9:28 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Remember the days of melodies that made you imagine the scenes unfolding in your head???

Yup! Those days were just last year with Bear McCreary’s Rings of Power. wink

Yavar


Ugh!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2023 - 3:50 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Yes, I also find ST3-TSFS a much smoother and mature score than the 'frenzied' ST2-TWOK.
Although there's only a couple of years between them, Horner seemed to take a much more refined approach to 3 and the orchestral performance is much more palatable too.
I think the Uber-Love for WRATH OF KHAN music around here stems mainly from the 'it's STAR TREK' mentality and the love of the film by the fans.
I find parts of KHAN quite noisy and jagged (and not unlike his rough and ready BATTLE BEYOND THE STARS), although it works great it in the film* and the old LP programme was pretty much perfect.
Stealing The Enterprise is a truly stand-out piece of music (and sequence in the film).
The thrust and momentum Horner builds up and sustains over 8 minutes of screen time is exceptional (and anybody wanting CAPTAIN EO will find it all pretty much in it, at a slightly faster pace). Also agree that the opening of the LP version is much better.
And I've said this before, but I find The Katra Ritual to be on of THE most therapeutic pieces of music...EVER!
Many a time, as a late teenager/early twenty-some, I would use it as a 'build and release' mechanism, letting the troubles of my time purge/evaporate along with the flow of the track.




* But Horner was right about the bagpipes during Spock's funeral. He may have been one of the youngest members of the crew but older heads should have listened to the young buck.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2023 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   panavision   (Member)

I like both Trek scores equally. Spock is more emotional and less jarring, but Trek 2 has the amazing action music.

 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2023 - 8:58 AM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

I like both Trek scores equally. Spock is more emotional and less jarring, but Trek 2 has the amazing action music.

Same here. They're a pair, like disc 1 and disc 2 of the same film. I think the two final set pieces in Wrath of Khan are unmatched in the pair, while Trek III is overall just sad and lovely.

 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2023 - 9:17 AM   
 By:   Hedji   (Member)

I'll be the contrary voice that says I get a little exhausted with the somber musical tone of III by the time the crew leaves the Genesis Planet for the final act on Vulcan. At that point, I've had enough of the "B" theme and Spock's theme doing so much heavy heart lifting.

I prefer the jaunty peppy, light on the feet Wrath of Khan, which earns the somber emotional ending (both film and score).

No one will deny the magnificence of Stealing the Enterprise, but I feel like the score peaks early, and sometimes turn it off early after "Genesis Destroyed", and I can't be the only person who isn't excited to hear the exact same end credit suite to finish it off.

 
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