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 Posted:   Oct 7, 2024 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I like many of the tracks individually, but for me it really lacks the sense of narrative development I love about film music, so I very much prefer the episodic score albums. I know that not all of them are strictly chronological, but they tell a musical story (with the various themes really going on a journey of development) much better than the season album does.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2024 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I actually find many of the ROP themes the equal to anything Shore wrote.
Even his new theme this season for Tom Bombadil is already timeless to me.
And just to show how subjective it is, while I enjoyed much of Debney's LAIR game music, I found lots of it to be generic rehashing of much better/original film composers.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2024 - 11:08 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Yeah I like Debney (especially his masterpiece CutThroat Island) but he’s certainly got less of a distinctive voice than McCreary does.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2024 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

I actually find many of the ROP themes the equal to anything Shore wrote.
Even his new theme this season for Tom Bombadil is already timeless to me.


Agreed!

And just to show how subjective it is, while I enjoyed much of Debney's LAIR game music, I found lots of it to be generic rehashing of much better/original film composers.

Lair is one of my all-time favourite video game scores. Whether Debney has a distinct voice or not doesn't bother me, however, any good film composer must be a musical chameleon, and Debney is one of the best in that regard.

-Erik-

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2024 - 12:09 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I totally agree about a film music composer having to be a musical chameleon (I think one of the big boys actually said that in an interview).
I prefer the ones who wear and shed differing musical skins, while bringing their own singular voice to the project.
Debney and McNeely are two composers filled with musical talent, but who seem to prefer adopting other composers voices, instead of investing in their own.
But that is also a subjective view of my own personal preferences.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2024 - 1:44 PM   
 By:   WhoDat   (Member)

I actually find many of the ROP themes the equal to anything Shore wrote.
Even his new theme this season for Tom Bombadil is already timeless to me.


Totally agree! And to me some of McCreary's ROP themes outshine Shore's themes for similar material:

Numenor's theme > Gondor's theme
Galadriel's theme > Lothlorien theme
Where the Shadows Lie (Sauron's season 2 theme) > Nazgul's Theme
Khazad-dum theme (Dwarves) > Moria/Balin's Tomb






 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2024 - 7:21 PM   
 By:   A. A. Ron   (Member)

The themes for Galadriel, Khazad-dum, and the Rings themselves (Where the Shadows Lie) are right up there with anything by Shore. His themes for Nori and the Harfoots are wonderful and fit Middle Earth well. With only a couple of months left in the year, Bear's grand finale for Season 2, "The Sun Yet Shines," is and will likely remain my favorite piece of score music of the year. And I say all this as someone who doesn't even like the show.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2024 - 8:58 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I have no interest in seeing it & don't get the TV channel that shows it anyway, but I've been really enjoying those critical YouTube videos giving the series a good bashing, very entertaining (& the last one I watched said the music was a tuneless mess).

I’m sure those videos are entertaining, but they represent the lowest-hanging fruit of YouTube content. Bashing gets clicks – it’s much easier to generate views with hyperbolic, inflammatory criticism than with nuanced analysis. A thoughtful review that says, "I would have liked to see more of…" will never get the traction of "My cousin’s brain-damaged monkey could make a better show."

Calling something a "mess" is subjective but at least a valid critique. However, labeling it "tuneless" is simply inaccurate. The series is packed with distinct melodies, and they're not hard to discern.

I wanted to enjoy this series, but for me, it falls well short of the mark. While the production is stunning, to me, the storytelling feels too fragmented, and the characters come across as flat. The cast's stiff delivery of stilted dialogue ("The stars shall be your friends and make safe your steps") keeps me from connecting with them as anything more than tired archetypes.

Ultimately, to me, it feels like the world's most expensive department store window displays.

I'm not versed in Tolkien lore (I've only seen the Jackson films), so perhaps a more dedicated fan would find more to appreciate. While I enjoy Howard Shore's scores, I don't hold them in the same estem so many here do (they’re not even my favorite works of his).

I do, however, like McCreary's music for the series. There's a lot of it, and some themes recur more than I'd prefer (though this is probably both inevitable and necessary). I'm not sure I understand the criticism that it sounds like “trailer music,” since trailers can feature everything from John Williams' original Hook score to a melancholy cover of a pop song to, for a while, James Horner’s "Bishop’s Countdown" on endless repeat.

Of course, that doesn't mean these scores will work for everyone. Solium says there's no meat on these bones. I happen to disagree, but, as they say, one man's meat is another man's no-meat. (They say that, right?)

I'm surprised that Amazon has yet to announce a pick-up of season three of this series. There is no question that, whatever its creative merits, it has failed to generate the interest they anticipated when they spent more money on it than has ever been spent on a television series. But Amazon can afford it, and surely doesn't want the embarrassment of an early cancelation. So what's holding them up?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2024 - 1:53 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Yeah, I would have thought a Series 3 would be a given, based on how S2 ended and the effort and expense Amazon have put behind it so far.
It's impossible for me (or anyone not sat high in Amazon, I suppose) to determine how they 'score' these shows nowadays, without box-office numbers or transparent viewership/subscriptions to see.
They would need to get a move on though.
Young Nori already looked like she'd aged about 10 years between S1 & S2 (that's the trouble when starting lengthy saga's that involve young players*).



* didn't LOST also suffer with a young cast member (Michael's son?) who sprang up between seasons and had to be written out?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2024 - 2:39 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I wonder if less people will buy the S2 two disc edition, hoping it will be included in a possible 10 disc edition, as was the case for S1.
And if that's the case, will they think it's a poor seller and not bother with a 10CD edition?
Oh, the conundrum.

 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2024 - 5:40 AM   
 By:   WhoDat   (Member)

I wonder if less people will buy the S2 two disc edition, hoping it will be included in a possible 10 disc edition, as was the case for S1.
And if that's the case, will they think it's a poor seller and not bother with a 10CD edition?
Oh, the conundrum.


I bought the expensive Season One 2-CD set from Mondo when it was first announced a couple years ago and got many listens out of it. The 10-CD set was a no-brainer, despite the inclusion of the same 2-CD set. I felt a little burned but the quality of the music and packaging makes up for it. The 2-CD set is now sitting in a sad cardboard box in the closet with many other past soundtrack sets that have been replaced by bigger/better expansions.

With all that being said, this time I'm holding off on the 2-CD set for Season Two.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2024 - 6:49 AM   
 By:   keky   (Member)

I plan to buy the new 2CD set so you can count on me. ; ) The 10 CD box is simply too much music for me.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2024 - 10:29 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I'm a bit reluctant to buy the 2CD set, due out in November, if it's gonna be included in a potential 10 disc edition, like the first season one was.
I remember it cost a few bob over the odds (the S1 2CD set) for folks in the UK.
First world problems, eh.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2024 - 3:41 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

In news that might upset many people who don't like it or watch it, but want to see it stopped...

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/rings-of-power-season-3-renewal-amazon-1236024428/

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2024 - 8:18 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

This is INCREDIBLE!!!



6 minute mark when the Tom Bombadil stuff comes in...BLISS.

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2024 - 8:32 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

In news that might upset many people who don't like it or watch it, but want to see it stopped...


If only there was an option for these people to not watch.

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2024 - 8:36 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

In news that might upset many people who don't like it or watch it, but want to see it stopped...

If only there was an option for these people to not watch.


They can take solace knowing that it will likely take two years before it's back on television, so at least some of them will be dead.

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2024 - 10:21 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

In news that might upset many people who don't like it or watch it, but want to see it stopped...

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/rings-of-power-season-3-renewal-amazon-1236024428/


Nah, this is good news if you enjoy the review thrashing it gets on YouTube.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2024 - 10:47 AM   
 By:   Martin B.   (Member)

Good new for all those that hate the show, means another 8 hours they can spend watching something they hate rather than something they like.
After all, who'd rather watch something they enjoy when you can watch something you hate just so you can create ragebait videos on it !

It'd be like me stopping listing to Goldsmith, Williams, Horner music for the pleasure and enjoyment and going and listening to Alex North instead.... (apologies to all North lovers wink)

But good news, I enjoyed this season for the most part. There were some issues but to be fair it's the same issues that a lot of TV suffers from - writers just don't know how to write convincingly anymore.
Didn't read the article but I suppose Season 3 won't be until 2026 at least ?

And of course, another "8 hours" of McCreary's Middle Earth music to look forward to.

 
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