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 Posted:   Mar 13, 2022 - 8:31 AM   
 By:   NSBulk   (Member)


They're identical


Wait, what? I thought Disc 1 of the LLL was sourced from the 1st generation 1/2" analog tape that captured the live 3-channel mix of every take of every cue, and your OST rebuild was sourced from the second generation 1/2" tape that captured selected takes only from the 3M digital output?


And the hi-res album master available now is from the 1st gen analog, too. This was prepared separately.

 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2022 - 8:38 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Ohhhhhh OK. Why didn't you say so in the first place!

This is extremely exciting news then - now we can have the OST program in the same quality as everything else on the LLL set... actually, even better quality! Very cool!



HD Tracks and 7 Digital have the new rebuild too!

https://www.hdtracks.com/#/album/621ea3e12ac5dd24c17f9146

https://us.7digital.com/artist/james-horner/release/star-trek-ii-the-wrath-of-khan-original-motion-picture-soundtrack-20398124

 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2022 - 8:45 AM   
 By:   NSBulk   (Member)

Ohhhhhh OK. Why didn't you say so in the first place!

You mean like if I had said, "...genuine, hi-res 96/24?"

I did. I even said to ignore the "Digital Recording" part.

 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2022 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   NSBulk   (Member)

For those interested, tracks 1-6 of this hi-res album master correspond with tracks 1, 9, 7, 10, 3, and 5 from disc 1. They're identical. Track 7 corresponds with disc 1, track 16, but does not have the "Wild Orchestra" overlay. "Genesis Countdown" is the same as disc 1, track 18 except for the short insert used on the OST. Finally the "Epilogue/End Title" is the same mix as disc 1, track 21 but now has (heaven help me) Nimoy's voice over and also the short insert at the end of the "End Titles."

I know there's a Lossless copy on Apple Music - is this the same new LLL mix or is that still the original album release?


The easiest way to tell is with the length of the "Main Title." The new master runs 3:14 while the old master is 3:08.


Gotcha. In that case Apple Music is still the old master.


A new easier way to ID the new hi-res version. The title is "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack)" with "Original Motion Picture Soundtrack" in parentheses.

Here it is on Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/star-trek-ii-the-wrath-of-khan-original-motion/1611201316?app=music

 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2022 - 1:22 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Also the new rebuild is shown as being released 2022-03-04 by Rhino, and the old master shows as being released 2013-10-29 by Paramount

https://www.hdtracks.com/#/album/621ea3e12ac5dd24c17f9132
vs
https://www.hdtracks.com/#/album/5dde1e5b43fd3cb039558a26

Actually the old master on qobuz says "Paramount Picutres" instead of "Paramount Pictures"!
https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/star/0603497907625

How did no one notice that in 9 years...

But yes the use of parenthesis for (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) seems to be consistent across platforms, which is nice!

 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2022 - 1:36 PM   
 By:   NSBulk   (Member)

Track 8 on both says "Gensis."

 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2022 - 3:01 PM   
 By:   richsto   (Member)

For those that would like to own the OST program in genuine, hi-res 96/24...

https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/star-trek-ii-the-wrath-of-khan-original-motion-picture-soundtrack-james-horner/gn8r78sto7vwc

Just ignore that the front cover says "Digital Recording." wink




Holy Cow!!! Completely awesome.

Easy and immediate triple dip for me. Downloaded the Hi-rez from HDTracks and am eager to listen later today on the big boy two channel system. Now I can own the fantastic physical CD AND the Hi-Rez directly from the masters. Most excellent!!!

Now we just need someone to provide a corrected front cover art….. smile


Thank you so much for this.

 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2022 - 3:45 PM   
 By:   erepel   (Member)

For those that would like to own the OST program in genuine, hi-res 96/24...

Many thanks. Listening now! By any chance might the (new) STTMP album get a high-res release?

 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2022 - 4:27 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

The nice thing about The Motion Picture is, Paramount owns the score themselves (the Sony Music contract was temporary), so they can actually put the entire LLL set out for digital download, not just the OST album

 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2022 - 4:58 PM   
 By:   richsto   (Member)

The nice thing about The Motion Picture is, Paramount owns the score themselves (the Sony Music contract was temporary), so they can actually put the entire LLL set out for digital download, not just the OST album


I would then be able to die and go to heaven…..TMP in Hi-rez….we can dream.

Back to listening to the new Hi-rez STII TWOK OST. First three tracks sound splendid on the two channel rig. Life is good.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2022 - 5:07 PM   
 By:   Jurassic T. Park   (Member)

I didn't really understand the request people had for a separate version of "Kirk In Space Shuttle", but now that I myself was looking for that unnamed jaunty piece of music and realized it was "Kirk In Space Shuttle", I completely understand why there was the desire to have it separate from the creepy "Eels of Ceti Alpha V".

On that note, I noticed even more how much "Khan's Pets" really plays an homage to similar music from TOS, like "Some Corpse" from "Where No Man Has Gone Before".

I also noticed that a brief section of rising and falling swells in the strings between 1:52 - 1:58 of "Khan's Pets" is brought back again in "Sunset of Genesis" from THE SEARCH FOR SPOCK. Not sure if this was a common Horner construct, but the extra attention on "Khan's Pets" has certainly revealed a lot.

This is an excellent album release and I'm so happy I got it!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2022 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   kenkraly2004   (Member)

Question for both Mike Matessino and Neil S. Bulk for each CD Soundtrack sets the 2 CD FSM Set or 2 CD Reissue which of the music elements was the most difficult to find for Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan?

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2022 - 10:37 AM   
 By:   NSBulk   (Member)

Question for both Mike Matessino and Neil S. Bulk for each CD Soundtrack sets the 2 CD FSM Set or 2 CD Reissue which of the music elements was the most difficult to find for Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan?

There was no trouble locating any tapes for this. It was well preserved and organized.

 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2022 - 10:00 AM   
 By:   NSBulk   (Member)

Recorded 40 years ago today.

 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2022 - 10:10 AM   
 By:   johnonymous86   (Member)

Recorded 40 years ago today.



Such a fantastic start to a film. Horner really knew how to get the blood pumping out of the gate. Opening credits like that are a lost art.

 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2022 - 11:49 AM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

Recorded 40 years ago today.


Wow.

Yeah, as I will be telling people when I'm in the rest home when those trumpets came out playing the Star Trek fanfare for the first time in 13 years all the hairs on the back of my neck went up.

Thanks, Neil!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2022 - 6:58 AM   
 By:   dwirving68@gmail.com   (Member)

I love having the OST in lossless! Question for Neil and/or Mike: What are the chances for other classic Trek soundtracks to become available as Hi-Res audio downloads? I would pony up for everything!

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2022 - 7:51 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Recorded 40 years ago today.


Wow.

Yeah, as I will be telling people when I'm in the rest home when those trumpets came out playing the Star Trek fanfare for the first time in 13 years all the hairs on the back of my neck went up.

Thanks, Neil!


Damn, time flies. It was the best of times...

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2022 - 10:32 AM   
 By:   c8   (Member)

This was the score that got me hooked on film scores, so I finally triple dipped when it came back in stock.

1) The music has never sounded better. I do not consider Dan Wallin to be an amazing recordist (I find his music always sounds so close miked and 'archival' and he really did damage some of Giacchino's 2000s/2010s scores), but man. Going from those ancient digital masters to the tapes makes this music POP. Especially in the center and low end. It really does sparkle in a way it hasn't before.

2) I don't think Deniz Cordell has gotten near enough credit for his liner notes. They're technical but accessible. Interesting, fascinating, well researched, concise. Truly the standard by which liner notes should be held they're so good.

This is an amazing release. Thank you to all involved.

 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2022 - 11:42 AM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

c8: This is an amazing release. Thank you to all involved.

Yeah, got to agree. This is Summer of '82 bliss in a way it's never been available before.

 
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