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 Posted:   Apr 9, 2023 - 12:52 AM   
 By:   Night   (Member)

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 Posted:   Apr 10, 2023 - 6:03 AM   
 By:   The Shadow   (Member)

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 Posted:   Apr 13, 2023 - 12:27 PM   
 By:   Laurent78   (Member)

Nice to have bumped this thread again, thanks. I'm coincidentally watching a TV series scored by FDR. It's called RUE BARRÉE (1967), starring the beautiful actress Marlène Jobert in one of her first appearances, even before DERNIER DOMICILE CONNU. I've seen the first 6 episodes so far and I must say that the music is rather sparse and discrete. I assume that FDR performed it alone on the guitar and other instruments in his home studio. It's not essential but still, I would welcome it if this soundtrack would be issued someday together with other unreleased TV stuff. In case where you'd be interested by this rather obscure title, here's a link toward this series :

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0171008/?ref_=nm_flmg_t_38_act

 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2023 - 1:16 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Me I'm just glad you all post about composers like this I'm not familiar with.

I did pick up Le Samourai on the great Écoutez le cinéma CD series, as I wanted the score without really knowing anything about the composer. And as it was the only movie he scored that I've seen to date.

But this and another thread around these parts got me to invest in the two Monde Electronique albums on the same label.

I enjoy them a lot when I'm in that kind of mood - and there's a lot of clever ideas/arrangement in the music.

Thanks for reminding me to give them another listen!

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2024 - 9:23 PM   
 By:   Laurent78   (Member)

Over the last weeks, I've been watching various TV series and movies scored by FDR : SIAL IV (69) LES SESTERAIN OU LE MIROIR 2000 (71), LE BALLOT (74) and PADENA OU LE SOIR DE CE JOUR (74) and some of them really would be worth a CD release, especially LES SESTERAIN, of which we have 5 tracks so far (including the end title song) but which has much more to offer. If you speak French, this entertaining series made of 13 episodes of 26' is available on YouTube. Of SIAL IV, a science fiction story also available on YT, we have only one track so far and, even if the music is rather sparse and often made of strange bruitage (I actually don't know if FDR was responsible for the whole soundtrack), we could there as well get more music. Like QUE FERAIT DONC FABER ? (69), a funny series I already mentioned elsewhere (featuring a lot of music in this case), these examples show there's still plenty of unreleased FDR.

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2024 - 11:27 PM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

I like him and his work...but Im afraid he won't make it
In my Top 10 not even 50.
Just too good of a competition.

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2024 - 12:56 AM   
 By:   Laurent78   (Member)

I like him and his work...but Im afraid he won't make it
In my Top 10 not even 50.
Just too good of a competition.


I can understand it, Moolik. We also have to take into consideration that he died at the age of 36 and would no doubt have produced many more masterpieces had he lived longer. Nonetheless, believe me, a significant part of his output still has to be discovered because it was destined to short movies, TV series and movies, ads, etc.

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2024 - 3:49 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

He's not in my top 10, no. I only have LE SAMOURAI and LES AVENTURIERS, so need to explore him more.

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2024 - 5:36 AM   
 By:   slint   (Member)

Top 10, he certainly is.

de Roubaix did not score that many films in his short career (outside of TV, shorts and pubs). I have heard a few unreleased scores:

Morgane et ses Nymphes (1971): This is one of the longest scores of the composer, fully unreleased. It was composed under a pseudonym due to the nature of the film. It is largely in the acoustic jazz style. It sometimes sound like home studio jazz session, and not much like a sexy horror film score. The main theme is a bossa jazz ballad with two acoustic guitars, bass and drums. The middle of the film includes mystical organ themes, with drones and witch-like choir. Then we do hear some interesting versions of the main theme in a more psychedelic style with electric guitar. It would make an interesting CD release.

La Peau de Torpédo (1970): Only 3 tracks have been released from the 7" single. There is a fair amount of unreleased music in the film. The main theme is a militaristic chamber jazz theme, with minimalist piano but mostly solo drums. The first part of the film contains quite a bit of psychedelic Indian underscore, for tablas and santor. There are also several variations of the themes released on CD. It would make a nice CD release.

Les Novices (1970): One of the few high profile films scores by de Roubaix to be missing a release, apart from five tracks on various compilations and a 7" single. There is not much unreleased music in the film, at most a few minutes of popular and psychedelic underscore. There is only one unreleased melodic theme, a lovely acoustic version of the main theme for acoustic guitar, flute and pounding bass. The finale is an extended unreleased version of the main theme.

Les Suspects (1974): Two sequences have been released on compilation CDs and that's pretty much it for the score, which contains a couple of alternative versions of the main theme "Candice".

Les Caïds (1972): The 12 minutes found on compilation CDs are complete, and there is no more music in the film.

Ho! (1968): The 10 minute suite released by Universal France is essentially complete. The film only contains one more piece of source night club jazz music.

Le Rapace (1968): The 12 minutes found on Universal France CD are complete, and there is no more music in the film.

Adieu L'Ami (1968): The 8 minutes found on CD are complete, and there is no more music in the film.

Diaboliquement Vôtre (1967): There is quite a bit of unreleased music in the film. The underscore is largely based on the two themes Machination and Christiane released on CD, as well as similar variations. There are only short sections of unreleased melodic content, include a beat rock shake and source Indochina folk music.

Les Grandes Gueules (1965): The score released on Universal France is essentially complete, although the finale is an alternative version of Hector with male choir.

La Loi du Survivant (1967): Only about 5 minutes (two themes) have been released on compilation CDs. Most of the unreleased music consists in alternative versions of these two themes, with similar but lighter arrangements. There is one unreleased theme, a gentle folk ballad with acoustic guitar and dulcimer.

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2024 - 7:41 AM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

@ Mr. Slint. Thanks for compiling all this info. Mr. de Roubaix is certainly in my top ten. His restless imagination and unbridled creativity were on a Morricone scale. If it were not for his tragic passing at 36, he would have no doubt went on to an International career.

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2024 - 7:48 AM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

François de Roubaix would be in my Top 10 if the focus is on only French language films & TV.

1. Pierre Jansen
2. Jean Prodromidès
3. Antoine Duhamel
4. Georges Garvarentz
5. Michel Magne
6. Maurice Leroux
7. François de Roubaix
8. Paul Misraki
9. Jacques Loussier
10. Claude Bolling

When regarding all that 'world' cinema offers, though, I relegate de Roubaix to my Top 100 (but not my Top 10).


@ Mr. ZardozSpeaks. Great list. All of these gentlemen were outstanding artists. I'm reminded of a cue by Antoine Duhamel from Petit Domicile Conjugal. He melded Mendelssohn and Stravisnky in an incredibly vibrant and fun cue. Genius.

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2024 - 8:14 AM   
 By:   Night   (Member)

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 Posted:   May 19, 2024 - 12:40 PM   
 By:   Laurent78   (Member)

Slint, I've seen several films of your list including LES GRANDES GUEULES, ADIEU L'AMI, LES CAÏDS, LES SUSPECTS. Regarding MORGANE ET SES NYMPHES, there's a lot of beautiful music in this score FDR signed under the pseudonym of Cisco El Rubio, especially in the sequences set in the castle toward the end. I wish the complete score would be released someday.

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2024 - 10:13 PM   
 By:   MMM   (Member)

Herrmann
Rozsa
Korngold
Steiner
Waxman
Lavagnino
Goldsmith
Bernstein
Tiomkin
Ifukube
Walton

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2024 - 4:44 AM   
 By:   slint   (Member)

It is difficult to compare Francois de Roubaix to composers with a symphonic education. Perhaps he could be compared to jazz band leaders, although even jazz composers like Michel Legrand and Claude Bolling had a solid symphonic background. The same for most pop song composers in the 60s and 70s. Francois de Roubaix is in my top 10 of film score composers for different reasons, but wouldn't be in my top 1000 classical composers. So the topic of this thread is a bit of a trap.

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2024 - 4:57 AM   
 By:   Laurent78   (Member)

It is difficult to compare Francois de Roubaix to composers with a symphonic education. Perhaps he could be compared to jazz band leaders, although even jazz composers like Michel Legrand and Claude Bolling had a solid symphonic background. The same for most pop song composers in the 60s and 70s. Francois de Roubaix is in my top 10 of film score composers for different reasons, but wouldn't be in my top 1000 classical composers. So the topic of this thread is a bit of a trap.

I definitely agree with you, Slint. FDR was a self-taught musician and a unique personality. Broadly speaking, I'm not at all into top rankings and I think above all it's important to remember his music. Next year, we'll commemorate the 50 years of his passing and I hope that more scores of his will be unearthed.

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2024 - 4:59 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

I like what I have of his, but no, not top 10.

There are too many great composers like Barry, Herrmann, Goldsmith, Morricone, Williams, North, Delerue, Mancini, Schifrin, Legrand, Kilar, Small, Shire, Rota, Sarde, etc., for him to get in there.

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   May 28, 2024 - 8:57 AM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Not even A&C listed François de Roubaix in his Top 10 in Thor's thread.

 
 Posted:   May 28, 2024 - 9:21 AM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

Not even A&C listed François de Roubaix in his Top 10 in Thor's thread.

Tough call, as I said earlier. François de Roubaix is basically picometers away from the top ten, as are Danny Elfman, Basil Poledouris, Erich Wolfgang Korngold, Nino Rota, Elmer Bernstein, Bruce Broughton... etc.

However, top ten or not, my enthusiasm and appreciation for the artistry of M. De Roubaix will never wane.

 
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