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 Posted:   Feb 27, 2019 - 8:30 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

Great to see this CD. More George Bruns is always welcomed. I remember seeing the film on TV on the Disney show in the early 1960's. I hope this CD will sell well and Intrada will issue on CD's more Disney scores from the 1950's and 1960's.

That would be fantastic PFK. Fingers crossed and candles lighting!




Light a candle for me Niall! smile

Some Disney Golden Age scores I'd love to see: Davy Crockett films, Westward Ho the Wagons, The Great Locomotive Chase, In Search of the Castaways, Swiss Family Robinson, Treasure Island etc.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2019 - 9:50 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Let's not forget the music and songs from Disney animated features of the 40 's like MAKE MINE MUSIC , FUN AND FANCY FREE and MELODY TIME. I remember Dennis Day singing in the Johnny Appleseed episode . I think the title of the song was The Lord is Good to Me. And then there was Two Silhouettes beautifully sung by Dinah Shore . THE Andrews Sisters in the Johnny Fedora/ Alice Blue Bonnet episode. Benny Goodman's cool music of teens jiving in the 40 's. I am very lucky to have these films in my movie collections totally unedited. Movies and soundtracks have been my main leisure interests since my school days.

 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2019 - 9:53 PM   
 By:   gmontag451   (Member)

Having listened to the samples, I realize that the film score is not actually what Disney used to play in Liberty Square in Florida. (They lied to me!) Some of the same themes, but quite different arrangements.

 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2019 - 4:40 PM   
 By:   C. J. Smith   (Member)

Can't believe I missed news of this until today. I'm ecstatic to see Intrada's back at it with vintage Disney...
Hope the wait for the next title isn't quite so long. We haven't had anything of this caliber since 20,000 Leagues, if my memory serves me.


Great Release!!! How about "Old Yeller" and Paul Smith's scores for the True-Life Adventures series. Thank you, Intrada!!!!!

Seconded!

 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2019 - 9:11 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

A few tracks in and I hear shades of Sleeping Beauty (Yeah I know not his composition) and The Jungle Book. Awesome to discover "new" music from Bruns. Considering the age of the score I wouldn't mind a re-recording either.

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2019 - 4:51 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

I'm thinking about getting this, but the audio samples seem pretty dang vintage (it may be because I haven't listened to older scores in a while, but I was a little taken aback).

For anyone who can answer: How does this release compare sonically to others of the same vintage?

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2019 - 5:05 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I'm thinking about getting this, but the audio samples seem pretty dang vintage (it may be because I haven't listened to older scores in a while, but I was a little taken aback).

For anyone who can answer: How does this release compare sonically to others of the same vintage?


There are better (and worse) sounding OST recordings from the 1950s and earlier, so I'm not sure a comparison based on age makes sense. Maybe it's more relevant to compare studios, with their known limitations and merits. This might be a typical 1950s Disney recording.

 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2019 - 12:47 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Fair point LC. So let's try this - how does it compare to Intrada's 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea? I've just been listening to the samples for each, and Johnny T has a much boxier sound than 20k Leagues - though it doesn't take too long to get used to it.

 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2019 - 12:53 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

The featureless and lengthy stretches of bland drumming spoils much of the music for me.

 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2019 - 12:57 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

The featureless and lengthy stretches of bland drumming spoils much of the music for me.

Wait, we're not talking about a Hans Zimmer score here! Or are we?!


(I really am kidding, I quite enjoy Zimmer.)

 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2019 - 3:53 PM   
 By:   C. J. Smith   (Member)

Fair point LC. So let's try this - how does it compare to Intrada's 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea? I've just been listening to the samples for each, and Johnny T has a much boxier sound than 20k Leagues - though it doesn't take too long to get used to it.

Obviously, the biggest difference in quality between these two releases is their channel format; 1954's 20,000 Leagues was recorded with two mics on either side of the orchestra, allowing for a richer stereo presentation. Tremain, on the other hand, was a strictly mono deal. Given the fact that the picture was originally intended as a television production, it's also possible that the lower budget may have contributed to the somewhat lackluster recording quality and setup -- that, or the session elements are just in bad shape compared to the stereo Smith score.
Either way, compared to 20,000 Leagues, you're getting a lower quality presentation of music from a less exciting film written by a less capable composer. If you don't like either of those last two things, you probably won't care for this release.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2019 - 6:26 PM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

Aside from the extensive use of matte paintings (always cool), I too only remember Johnny burning his hand.

Yup. Sixty (!) years ago for me, and I still remember the burning and the Redcoat's ultimatum: "Disperse, ye rebels, disperse!" The music did not make an impression.

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2019 - 8:55 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I'm thinking about getting this, but the audio samples seem pretty dang vintage (it may be because I haven't listened to older scores in a while, but I was a little taken aback).

For anyone who can answer: How does this release compare sonically to others of the same vintage?


The sound quality is very subpar. Surprisingly so. I think older scores from Disney's animated library sound better than this. It is what it is.

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2019 - 9:01 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I’m guessing it’s because the film was originally planned for TV. Do the re-recorded album cues sound any better?

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2019 - 10:33 AM   
 By:   Traveling Matt   (Member)

I’m guessing it’s because the film was originally planned for TV. Do the re-recorded album cues sound any better?

Yavar


Yes.

 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2019 - 8:03 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Thanks for the replies all around, very helpful. I'm still so nostalgic for the 50's sound and the Disney feel that I'm torn, though I fear it just wouldn't get enough listens to justify purchasing.

 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2019 - 8:08 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Yeah a re-recording would be the way to go on this one. Cudo's for them releasing such an obscure title, especially with the elements they had to work with. But there comes a point where the sound quality is just to shoddy to get much enjoyment out of.

 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2019 - 8:19 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Let’s be honest...this is a score that would never get re-recorded. I’m glad Intrada felt like rescuing it from the vaults, personally (and the better sounding album recording). And hopefully next time it’ll be an originally-theatrical thing with much better sound like 20,000 Leagues had. I’m here for Clifton Parker’s Treasure Island and Robin Hood and those are even older scores. smile

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2019 - 11:55 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

I’m here for Clifton Parker’s Treasure Island and Robin Hood and those are even older scores. smile

Yavar


Yeah, me too - I listen to the Chandos Treasure Island suite semi-regularly, and really enjoy Robin Hood in the film itself.

 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2019 - 12:29 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

A man after my own heart! That live action Disney Robin Hood is actually my favorite film adaptation of the legend. I like how Robin is portrayed it in, with his father at the beginning of the film. The chemistry with a feisty Maid Marian is also great, and all of the supporting characters are memorably portrayed. Peter Finch took a me little getting used to as the sheriff (certainly better than the bumbling sheriff in the classic Flynn version), but I'm a big fan of the actor and I came around (it's just hard to compete with Wrathbone's Guy of Gisbourne as a villain I think).

Of course I don't rate Clifton Parker on the level of Erich Wolfgang Korngold, but his contribution was still very fine and memorable and I would love to add it to my Robin Hood score collection, from Korngold to Kamen...

Yavar

 
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