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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: Zigzag/The Super Cops
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2012 - 1:08 PM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

Thanks for the tip.

SAE offers the DVD and the CD.
http://www.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm/ID/21673/ZIGZAG-1970/

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2012 - 4:08 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

That's good news about the DVD! I was just thinking about this movie the other day. The ending would just not fly today, or if it did, there would still be a damn sequel.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2012 - 6:40 PM   
 By:   lexedo   (Member)

Those are both good records. The extra bonus source material is excellent. Anita O'Day's Green Dolphin Street is killer -- that good. Fielding and Shire were the sound of American Streets in the 70s; when historians look back too see what America sounded like during that era, those guys will be 1 & 2 wo a doubt.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2012 - 2:34 AM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

Darn near forgot the film was on TCM today, but I saw it and absolutely loved it! It was much better than I expected it to be.

Zigzag is a veritable Who's Who of '65-'75 TV actors--including the great Steve Ihnat--which I found a bit distracting at first because of the intricate plotting that's set up during the film's first half hour, but it's all effectively handled and the viewer is never lost in the proceedings.

This was a theatrical feature, but if it weren't for the few shots of George Kennedy's ass and some saucy language, this could have aired on broadcast television in 1970.

The location shooting was excellent, with footage shot on Sunset Boulevard at night. If one knew the area at that time, be prepared to have it all come back. the use of every TV director's trick in the book with rack focusing galore also reminded me that Zigzag has serious TV "cred."

There's enough Mid-Century Modern light fixtures to make admirers of that stuff to keep an eye open as well as the open smoking that would earn today's films an automatic PG-13 or R rating.

As for Oliver Nelson's score, it was wonderfully used throughout, with those hip pursuit cues and fantastic ending where Kennedy is shotgunned to death in overlapping slo-mo dramatic style which was oh-so '70s.

Oh! Roy Orbison's song "Zigzag" is employed as source music during a Go-Go style party. If Orbison wasn't already a frigging music deity, then his performance of the song would blast open the doors to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. cool




Thanks for the rundown which explain a bit the use of music in some scenes.
I will order the DVD because of your insight.
Can you elaborate more on the relation of music and image, please?

 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2012 - 7:54 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Thanks for the rundown which explain a bit the use of music in some scenes.
I will order the DVD because of your insight.
Can you elaborate more on the relation of music and image, please?


I'd love to, but it's been nearly a year since I've seen the film and that was the only time. I don't think I've even listened to the score since then. Perhaps if I go through the liner notes as I'm listening it will all come back to me. smile

Zigzag is a most worthy purchase--film and score--and anyone who loves the late '60s-early '70s era and TV actors will find much to enjoy there.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2012 - 3:24 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I enjoy the Zig Zag score as a substitute for the Six Million Dollar Man CD that doesn't exist, but for me, The Supercops is the headliner on this disc.
It's pure, prime Fielding, featuring all his calling shots and trademarks. I adore the dancing percussion throughout the tracks and the monkey noises are heller cool. One particular gritty/aggressive cue reminds me of Goldsmith's Twilight's Last Gleaming (I remember saying such in my old review that now sits in the Music From The Movies data banks).

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2014 - 4:10 PM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

Meanwhile, let's enjoy The Super Cops one more time:

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2014 - 7:54 PM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)

The Super Cops is possibly Fielding's most accessible score. It had completely passed me by until now that the film itself is available via the Warner Archive, so I've ordered that this evening smile

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2014 - 4:26 AM   
 By:   Loren   (Member)

The Super Cops is possibly Fielding's most accessible score. It had completely passed me by until now that the film itself is available via the Warner Archive, so I've ordered that this evening smile

Way to go! Among my favourites too.
BTW, material used by Fielding for SuperCops can be found years back in unsuspected tv shows (C'est la Rose with Grace Kelly, etc).

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2014 - 7:28 AM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)


Way to go! Among my favourites too.
BTW, material used by Fielding for SuperCops can be found years back in unsuspected tv shows (C'est la Rose with Grace Kelly, etc).



Yes, I've come to realise that he was quite the re-cycler.....

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2014 - 7:31 AM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)


Way to go! Among my favourites too.
BTW, material used by Fielding for SuperCops can be found years back in unsuspected tv shows (C'est la Rose with Grace Kelly, etc).



Yes, I've come to realise that he was quite the re-cycler.....



Don't be too swift to judge because they all have trade marks and signatures.
Remember Bernard Herrmann, Jerry Goldsmith, Lalo Schifrin.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2014 - 7:47 AM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)


Don't be too swift to judge because they all have trade marks and signatures.
Remember Bernard Herrmann, Jerry Goldsmith, Lalo Schifrin.



Indeed, that's true Thomas. I think there's a difference between having trade marks and signature sounds and actually recycling tunes though (I'm thinking of The Big Sleep and Hunters Are For Killing for instance).

I'm not knocking him for it though - what he did, he did very well - he supported and underlined what was on the screen and even sometimes what wasn't. And then there are scores like Escape from Alcatraz which are fairly unique and avante-garde (and which alas I find nearly unlistenable).

I do - occasionally - think his credit should read Music Composed, Re-Arranged and Conducted by Jerry Fielding though.... wink

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2014 - 12:04 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

All of this talk about THE SUPER COPS has only succeeded in sticking the Roy Orbison "Zigzag" song in my head. So...yeah, thanks. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2014 - 2:11 PM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)


Don't be too swift to judge because they all have trade marks and signatures.
Remember Bernard Herrmann, Jerry Goldsmith, Lalo Schifrin.



Indeed, that's true Thomas. I think there's a difference between having trade marks and signature sounds and actually recycling tunes though (I'm thinking of The Big Sleep and Hunters Are For Killing for instance).





And that's the reason why we love those 'above mentioned' composers.
We can track a rework. Even Alex North did it. Needless to mention Oliver Nelson, his television work is a series of variations.

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2015 - 12:14 PM   
 By:   Uhtred   (Member)

I finally got around to getting this album in the recent FSM sale, long after someone on here had recommended Super Cops to me after I had raved about how much I liked the main title to Escape from the Planet of the Apes. I haven't managed to get to Super Cops yet as I'm finding it hard to remove Zigzag from my CD player. Never heard of Oliver Nelson before but I'm blown away by how good Zigzag is. I hope there's more of his work on CD for me to discover. Now to listen to Super Cops.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2015 - 12:34 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Never heard of Oliver Nelson before but I'm blown away by how good Zigzag is. I hope there's more of his work on CD for me to discover.


Sorry, but as far as film work goes, ZIGZAG is it. Nelson only scored three theatrical features (DEATH OF A GUNFIGHTER and SKULLDUGGERY were the other two). Neither those scores nor any of his television movies and series work has been issued on recordings.

 
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