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 Posted:   Sep 15, 2023 - 6:58 AM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

“A film score will live longer than any other kind of music,” Herrmann was quoted as saying in "Listening to the Movies.

Scorsese on Herrmann's score for "Taxi Driver": "His music is like a vortex: it goes deeper and deeper and deeper. It has a feeling that it never comes to completion, and it starts all over again—just when you think it's finishing, it starts all over again. It's kind of like a whirlpool, a vortex, an emotional one, a psychological one—and it has deep psychological power."

The Oscar-nominated documentary on Herrmann, "Bernard Herrmann: Music for the Movies", is the source of the quote that others have cited about music saving a film, but not making the producers rich. Also, starting at approximately 38:55, the documentary has a wonderful quote as Claube Chabrol is being interviewed about the music for "Psycho." Here is a link to the documentary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36Bej6w8yXQ

It's a wonderful way to spend an hour with Herrmann, his colleagues, family, and artists who love film music.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2023 - 3:33 PM   
 By:   Eugene Iemola   (Member)

And then there was the time William Friedkin screened The Exorcist for Mr. Herrmann:
" I want a better score than the one you wrote for Citizen Kane." To which Mr. Herrmann replied,
"Then you shoulda made a better picture than Citizen Kane!"

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2023 - 4:52 PM   
 By:   podres185   (Member)

A few years ago I watched the The Magnificent Seven--the original, and I was amazed and shocked at how slow, plodding, and dreary that film was. In that specific instance, Elmer Bernstein saved that picture. And, by the way, I am from that generation that grew up in the sixties, so my comments are not based on generational differences.

Bernstein tells a hilarious story about how C.B. Deville taught him how music can speed up a film -- when he was scoring the Exodus scene in "The Ten Commandments." And, goes on to say, he used that lesson a few years later on "The Magnificent 7". "I used music like whip (on Mag 7)" Bernstein says. And indeed, you can hear that "whip" in the 4 opening chords of the score.


 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2023 - 5:30 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

And then there was the time William Friedkin screened The Exorcist for Mr. Herrmann:
" I want a better score than the one you wrote for Citizen Kane." To which Mr. Herrmann replied,
"Then you shoulda made a better picture than Citizen Kane!"


LOL that’s our Benny!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36Bej6w8yXQ

It's a wonderful way to spend an hour with Herrmann, his colleagues, family, and artists who love film music.


Thank you. I just watched it and early on was reminded of why I was drawn to his music as a youngster. By the end I was reminded why I was drawn to his music as an adult.

 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2023 - 6:25 PM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

"I've always debunked that idea that music should not be heard if it's a good score. How can you judge a good score if you can't hear it? I've always tried to write for myself and I hope others are doing it and have done music that both fits the film and hopefully can stand on its own."

- Alex North

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2023 - 8:51 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

Steven Spielberg said this about John Barry:

"I have been an admirer of John Barry for many years. All of his music stands the test of time and he is one of the best composers of film scores. I love The Quiller Memorandum, The Ipcress File, The Lion in Winter, Out of Africa and many others. But above all, John Barry will be revered for his contribution to the Bond series. And it's not just his composition of the main title themes, but also his underscoring. When I hear the underscoring to his Bond movies, it doesn't matter who is playing Bond because the mortar that holds together the different styles of brick together is the music. usually a film score follows behind the action but in the case of John Barry, it feels like the music came first and the action second."

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2023 - 11:33 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

The last sentence seems to apply to Williams and certain parts of CE3K, if memory serves.
And in a similar vein, we once had a discussion here comparing film to lyrics.

 
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