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 Posted:   Jun 26, 2020 - 12:27 AM   
 By:   keky   (Member)

I have really liked Villeneuve's films. I think he is a terrific director. On the other hand, I have never purchased any film scores from his films. He seems big on sounds or soundscapes but not on themes or motifs. Hopefully, he will see the need for more melody or themes in DUNE, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Yeah, that. None of his films so far had a particularly melodic score. I imagine a wonderful thematic, melodic score for Dune, a sci-fi epic, as well, but considering the music for Villeneuve previous films, I'm not sure that's what we will get. Hans Zimmer could definitely deliver a great thematic sci-fi score, so if the director has that in mind then we are lucky. Anyway, I'm very curious what Hans is preparing...

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 26, 2020 - 1:29 PM   
 By:   Mandlebrot90   (Member)

Well ‘iliveforhim1976’ I hope your acting is better than your writing, my previous post had no big words but just standard vocabulary, well standard for those who are capable of reading beyond emoticons. You don’t have to uppercase words to make a point as it looks infantile. You lose credibility and end up looking like a toddler having a tantrum.

Interesting how you mention “NO TALENT CLOWNS hating on someone who came from NOTHING.”

Christopher Nolan didn’t come from nothing. He was born into a middle class family with a father who worked in advertising on Madison Avenue. We are not talking about some poor Brazilian kid living in a shanty town trying to scrape money together to make a 5 mins short.
I imagine connections with Madison Avenue and commercial makers would have been advantageous in Nolan’s career trajectory.

So that then leads to the question who am I? How many films have I directed? How many screenplays and books have I written? What output have you seen of mine? How do you substantiate your argument that Nolan his ten times better?

Mandlebot is obviously a pseudonym so how can you make a comparison with my work against Nolan’s. You have nothing to compare with my work against his, other than letting your fan boy bias make assumptions that have no grounding in reality.

If you are going to contest someone’s point of view and you know nothing about them then at least challenge them through a more constructive means. Do it by giving offering an assessment of why you think Nolan films are great. Not just “Y’know.. he writes as well as directs.”
Ed Wood also wrote the movies he directed, so what is your point?

Talk about the juxtaposition of images in building mood, the timing, the character beats the use of narrative space to convey a sense of space and time. How is the lighting used? What does it evoke? A picture can tell a thousand words, so how does the director manipulate the composition of the frame to get his/her audience to feel what the narrative demands?

Take a leaf out of Grecchus book, with his post explains why he felt The Prestige didn’t hit the mark.
Primarily because Nolan undermined the very reality he strived hard to create with a contrived Deux Ex Machina ending. Which reiterates a similar point I made in my previous post.

I am actually a big fan of Imax, I was involved in a project with the format in the mid 90s. The hyper real, larger than life experience it offers can be spellbinding when done properly and the immersion lends itself to the narrative. As opposed to being a tacked on gimmick.

Shooting on Imax doesn’t automatically elevate a movie in quality, nor does it reflect the skill of the auteur. In the same way filling a movie with excessive amounts of CGI doesn’t make the rendering of a story any more cinematic. The format is just another medium to present the story in a particular way.

Unfortunately I have friends working at Imax in Mississauga who face redundancy because the big gauge format is on its arse at the moment. So Nolan's films didn’t singlehandedly save the theatre industry.

Incidentally, you were so eager to fire off your missive of righteous indignation you failed to see that my post was criticising Nolan and not Zimmer. I am a big fan of Zimmer’s and I think he will do well with Dune.

In the future I suggest you avoid driving 4 hours to the cinema, and spend the time more constructively reading books. It will improve your writing.

 
 Posted:   Jun 26, 2020 - 2:01 PM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Anything who thinks Zimmer is incapable of good music should just take a few minutes to listen to his PLANET EARTH II and THE PACIFIC themes.


you mean one decent score nearly 30 years ago and another one when he didn't almost nothing?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2020 - 10:19 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

The hate for the Dunkirk score bewilders me. This score works perfectly for the movie, creating a sense of tension and dread. What do people expect, a Ron Goodwin march or Michel Legrand love theme?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2020 - 11:01 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

The hate for the Dunkirk score bewilders me. This score works perfectly for the movie, creating a sense of tension and dread. What do people expect, a Ron Goodwin march or Michel Legrand love theme?

Indeed. A lot of people have a problem combining an understanding of what a film is and requires; what the director's vision is, and their own preferred style of music. It's a paradox that has run through film music fandom forever.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2020 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   Les Jepson   (Member)

My father was at Dunkirk. He told me that the almost overwhelming emotion was not fear, but stress. I think Zimmer's score captured that. It also made a change from jaunty marches and, saints preserve us, lonely trumpets.

 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2020 - 4:55 PM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

The hate for the Dunkirk score bewilders me. This score works perfectly for the movie, creating a sense of tension and dread. What do people expect, a Ron Goodwin march or Michel Legrand love theme?

DUNKIRK is probably Zimmer's worst. It sounded like a construction site with the Joker Theme and the tic-tac clock from Morricone's MY NAME IS NOBODY showing up ocasionally.

The bombastic "dramatic" tracks sounded like Vangelis if he was in the middle of a severe intestinal crisis

It gave me a huge headeache.

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2020 - 10:39 AM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

Trailer drop:



Continues the long* and storied** tradition of epic*** song covers in trailers.

I'm an unapologetic Zimmer fan and remain excited to hear what he comes up with for this (probably something to echo the sound of shifting sand), but it bums me out to see this footage and realize we won't get to hear what Johannsson might have done on a project of this scale.

As for the footage itself, if I wanted to get all snarky I could say that DUNE may finally answer the question "Hey what would happen if Greig Fraser got to shoot an entire movie out of the visually indecipherable scenes in ROGUE ONE?" If I wanted to get all snarky.

* Not long

** Not storied

*** Not epic

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2020 - 10:52 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I thought the use of Pink Floyd was a great idea - probably a nod to Jodorowsky's aborted DUNE project, wherein Pink Floyd was supposed to do the score.

Oh yeah...and loved the trailer!

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2020 - 10:55 AM   
 By:   AdoKrycha007   (Member)

Pink Floyd cover ? Meh... roll eyes

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2020 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

Trailer drop:



Movie looks good, but I confess it is very dificult not to compare any Dune adaptation with Lynch's version wich was perfect on the visual representation of Herbert's vision, in my opinion.

I didn't understand what Pink Floyd "Dark Side of the Moon" has to do with it, but I tought it was ok how they used the song.

No Zimmer name on the credits, so fingers crossed that his score was rejected and someone good come in his place.

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2020 - 11:23 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Trailer drop:



Movie looks good, but I confess it is very dificult not to compare any Dune adaptation with Lynch's version wich was perfect on the visual representation of Herbert's vision, in my opinion.

I didn't understand what Pink Floyd "Dark Side of the Moon" has to do with it, but I tought it was ok how they used the song.

No Zimmer name on the credits, so fingers crossed that his score was rejected and someone good come in his place.



Keep dreaming.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2020 - 11:30 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Looks like an instantly aged MTV styled movie from the 90's, this sure has the look and smell of a BOMB.
Lots of red ink coming on this one

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2020 - 11:31 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Looks like an instantly aged MTV styled movie from the 90's, this sure has the look and smell of a BOMB.
Lots of red ink coming on this one


Oh, a negative Ado post about the DUNE project! Who would have thought?

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2020 - 11:31 AM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)

Looks like an instantly aged MTV styled movie from the 90's, this sure has the look and smell of a BOMB.
Lots of red ink coming on this one


roll eyes

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2020 - 12:31 PM   
 By:   No Respectable Gentleman   (Member)

Have great respect for Villeneuve but this needs to do more to justify its existence. Certainly the sets and costumes in the Lynch version looked more impressive. Perhaps also the cast. The FX are clearly superior.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2020 - 12:39 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

It looks like a combination of John Carter, Mortal Engines, Attack Of The Clones and many others.
I see it being a critical hit of sorts, but I don't think the audience out there is big enough to make it a financial success.
It just doesn't appear to have that crossover appeal needed to generate huge box office takings.
It also looks too dark, grim and ugly.
I don't fancy sitting through 2.5 to 3 hours of that.
Of course, it's only a trailer, but that's what is selling the film.
It gave me memories of watching The Golden Compass trailer.

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2020 - 12:40 PM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)

Remember the marketing isn’t the movie, and the movie isn’t the marketing.

Looks good, though.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2020 - 12:47 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Looks like an instantly aged MTV styled movie from the 90's, this sure has the look and smell of a BOMB.
Lots of red ink coming on this one


Oh, a negative Ado post about the DUNE project! Who would have thought?


Oh, and a hyperbolic praise for an at best marginal movie from Thor, well not yet on this one, but I am sure it is on the way soon. Certainly you have given us many many others.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2020 - 12:49 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

It looks like a combination of John Carter, Mortal Engines, Attack Of The Clones and many others.
I see it being a critical hit of sorts, but I don't think the audience out there is big enough to make it a financial success.
It just doesn't appear to have that crossover appeal needed to generate huge box office takings.
It also looks too dark, grim and ugly.
I don't fancy sitting through 2.5 to 3 hours of that.
Of course, it's only a trailer, but that's what is selling the film.
It gave me memories of watching The Golden Compass trailer.


yup-yup-yup.
No hook in this trailer, aside from DV fanboy types.
Not enough of them to pay the bills for this budget.

 
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