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 Posted:   Dec 9, 2017 - 2:02 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

Not to dog-pile here, just to point out what looks to be a recurring issue with Naxos: when my Little Box of Horrors arrived this fall, there was a great deal of a white residue between the back of the booklet and the front of Deadly Friend (a very pure, chalk-like white). A lot of it came off easily by wiping with my hand. I haven't tried to get the rest off yet. Will probably try rubbing alcohol when I get around to it. All of the discs and their slipcovers, along with the booklet, were packaged in a single plastic wrap, as opposed to individually wrapped as others have mentioned theirs were. Now others are mentioning variously colored residue appearing on their Stephen King boxes. Naxos is obviously seeking ways to cut corners and causing widespread cosmetic damage to Varese's products in the process. Varese needs to crack down on Naxos ASAP or find a new handler. Customers' reactions shouldn't be "What the hell...?" when something new from Varese arrives.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2017 - 2:17 PM   
 By:   films1   (Member)

When things get out sourced why do you think companies do this ?

To get things done cheap . Go figure

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2017 - 2:52 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

And the BSX Soundtrack Label of the Year Award goes to...

There are actual people that work at these labels that you make fun of. Whether you buy their releases or Varse’s or anyone else, people work hard at all the labels including the ones you put down.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2017 - 2:57 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2017 - 7:09 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

Right back at you! My very best to you and your family Kev! Keep posting we need more positive spirits on this fun message board !!!!! smile

PS When I get back to the UK I’d love to treat you to a drink on me and Edwin smile smile Glad I was able to get you festive again!

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2017 - 1:20 AM   
 By:   Lewis&Clark   (Member)

Not really eager to spoil the X-Mas spirit around here, but what about those festive clicks that jingle through The Shining? smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2018 - 12:22 PM   
 By:   Maestro Sartori   (Member)

I'm not joining in on the packaging critique...

but I honestly want to know why a THREE night series, The SHINING, gets three discs, when W.G. Snuffy Walden wrote FOUR HOURS OF MUSIC for the STAND, and only gets a 45-minute second disc. The first disc is not only a re-issue, but still the same 45 minutes. Why could we get more of that FOUR HOURS of music packed onto these discs, even if there was only room for two discs in the set, there was room over 30 minutes more of music per disc.

I'm thankful for at 45 or so more minutes of The Stand... it was actually the only film in this set I was ever interested in seeing expanded, but I just don't understand some decisions. Other labels usually fill their discs to the limit with music.

 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2018 - 4:01 PM   
 By:   spook   (Member)

I'm not joining in on the packaging critique...

but I honestly want to know why a THREE night series, The SHINING, gets three discs, when W.G. Snuffy Walden wrote FOUR HOURS OF MUSIC for the STAND, and only gets a 45-minute second disc. The first disc is not only a re-issue, but still the same 45 minutes. Why could we get more of that FOUR HOURS of music packed onto these discs, even if there was only room for two discs in the set, there was room over 30 minutes more of music per disc.

I'm thankful for at 45 or so more minutes of The Stand... it was actually the only film in this set I was ever interested in seeing expanded, but I just don't understand some decisions. Other labels usually fill their discs to the limit with music.


I feel your pain as it was THE STAND I was after as well but I think that DMD did say that this was Snuffy’s decision and the way he wanted his music out there. Might not like it but it’s his music and his artistic decision.
Really like the whole set though with particularly the first disc of THE SHINING being a bit of a positive surprise. Been good to have heard more FIRESTARTER too but..ah well. Happy to have what’s out there.

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2018 - 7:11 AM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

Since I'm one of those people that actually expects my discs to be completely scratch-free and the packaging to be in new, undamaged condition, I've decided to pass on this set. It means I give up on more music for THE STAND and the possibility of replacing my old FIRESTARTER, but I've had to deal with so many damaged discs of late, due to "clever" packaging, and I'm just tired of it. And this goes not just for soundtrack labels but for the major labels as well. Tiresome, to say the least. And Naxos - nonsense. That one of the posters here was told his set wasn't in bad enough condition to replace is despicable. Hopefully Varèse, who put together a lovely set content-wise, can get Naxos to bloody play ball and realize they're dealing with collectors who care about quality. Rant over. smile

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2018 - 9:31 AM   
 By:   BlindDoc   (Member)

Since I'm one of those people that actually expects my discs to be completely scratch-free and the packaging to be in new, undamaged condition, I've decided to pass on this set. It means I give up on more music for THE STAND and the possibility of replacing my old FIRESTARTER, but I've had to deal with so many damaged discs of late, due to "clever" packaging, and I'm just tired of it. And this goes not just for soundtrack labels but for the major labels as well. Tiresome, to say the least. And Naxos - nonsense. That one of the posters here was told his set wasn't in bad enough condition to replace is despicable. Hopefully Varèse, who put together a lovely set content-wise, can get Naxos to bloody play ball and realize they're dealing with collectors who care about quality. Rant over. smile

Just a quick hint concerning Firestarter: Try to track down the MCA CD instead of the old Varèse - the sound is much much better - much less hiss and sounding "fatter". I have both editions. But i have no idea how the MCA compares to the one in this set...

Best,
Burnie

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2018 - 11:48 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

Nicholas gave us all his Shining music and with his blessing we released all he had. Snuffy in regards to The Stand put together the The Stand. He felt a lot of stuff was repetitive. You would need to bring up any grievances with him as Varese’s hands were tied. He wanted 2 discs with this music. For me out of this set I was so happy to get The Shining. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 7:16 AM   
 By:   jfallon   (Member)

Surprised there is no chatter about Dreamcatcher. How is the extra music? Hoping Varèse releases this as a stand alone.

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 9:00 AM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

Peter (DMD), is there anything you can address here in response to the issues people are having with the packaging of some of Varèse's specialty box sets, including the STEPHEN KING COLLECTION? Things have gotten contentious to say the least but perhaps some insight into the thinking behind the packaging for these sets could help people to understand why, after complaints and issues with the condition of the discs and packaging themselves, these still come out in the kind of packaging they do. That all sounds as if I'm being sarcastic as it reads, but I'm truly not. Does the marketing department, for example, have complete say over final packaging? Robert Townson? Have the fan concerns been addressed and, despite that feedback, there were viable reasons for the packaging?

I'm sure you're exhausted with the attention such things have gotten and in some cases the criticism has been, to say the least, poorly worded. On the other hand, there are conscientious customers whose concerns seem warranted. Some insight behind the decision-making might assist with those concerns.

As always, Peter, thank you for being such an incredible, enthusiastic conduit. You take some always unfair heat for this but I for one (and there are many, many others) know how hard your job is. That you do it with so much good will is a testament to who you are as a person.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 10:53 AM   
 By:   Kim Peterson   (Member)

How much would it cost to get all of the CDs directly from Varese, that have been checked over for scratches, then put into slim jewel cases without the artwork sent to me? Just a question. I want the set, but not how it has been packaged.

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 12:49 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

Varese wanted to do some box sets with several scores in them so we all brainstormed on ideas as you can imagine and one of the ideas was a Stephen King Collection as we've done a lot of great music from his films and there's a lot of great music out there to still release someday. We designed the box, the company that produces these box sets for a wide variety of companys like Universal, Warner Bros. and several several high end labels not soundtrack labels put it all together. Discs come in these types of packages all the time, this isn't new. I have several in my own collection, sometimes the discs stay in sometimes not. I remember that elaborate Harry Potter CD set that was in a box the size of an LP that stated AUTOGRAPHED sheet music by Desplat, which in fact it was copied sheet music. He signed one and they copied it. Oh well, so it was a surprise that the discs did not stay in and after receiving one of them at the office I noticed before opening the package that I could hear discs moving. I quickly sprang into action and luckily none were sent out. So the company with my direction added a level of foam protection on each panel to help keep the discs in their slots during shipping. At this point with all boxes made and invoices paid for 1500 of these boxes and approvals from the studios it was absolutely impossible to re-design the box and do this all over again as we were old with the added foam the discs should be secure during shipping. Naxos as you may know shipped these in bubble mailers which was not a good idea. They are now shipping them in box's. In my opinion they should have been shipped in boxes from the beginning, but they are the shipper now and they do this for a living. Folks were to reach out to Naxos about any issues with shipping and if your box was crushed at all. I hope people did. As for company policy I can't go into more detail of course, but gave you some insight. I'm thankful we got the foam placed on each panel before they were shipped as I think the problem would have been must worse than it was. As always thanks for all the feedback and thanks for wanting to know more and actually asking kindly of course,

Kim, we can't do that, but if you can find someone in the USA to buy it for you and do it, that would be the easiest solution for you I think. There has to be someone that if you PayPaled them some funds to buy it, they could do this and then send to you.

Okay back to work now on some cool projects...

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 5:33 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

Double post smile

 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2018 - 6:57 AM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

Varese wanted to do some box sets with several scores in them so we all brainstormed on ideas as you can imagine and one of the ideas was a Stephen King Collection as we've done a lot of great music from his films and there's a lot of great music out there to still release someday. We designed the box, the company that produces these box sets for a wide variety of companys like Universal, Warner Bros. and several several high end labels not soundtrack labels put it all together. Discs come in these types of packages all the time, this isn't new. I have several in my own collection, sometimes the discs stay in sometimes not. I remember that elaborate Harry Potter CD set that was in a box the size of an LP that stated AUTOGRAPHED sheet music by Desplat, which in fact it was copied sheet music. He signed one and they copied it. Oh well, so it was a surprise that the discs did not stay in and after receiving one of them at the office I noticed before opening the package that I could hear discs moving. I quickly sprang into action and luckily none were sent out. So the company with my direction added a level of foam protection on each panel to help keep the discs in their slots during shipping. At this point with all boxes made and invoices paid for 1500 of these boxes and approvals from the studios it was absolutely impossible to re-design the box and do this all over again as we were old with the added foam the discs should be secure during shipping. Naxos as you may know shipped these in bubble mailers which was not a good idea. They are now shipping them in box's. In my opinion they should have been shipped in boxes from the beginning, but they are the shipper now and they do this for a living. Folks were to reach out to Naxos about any issues with shipping and if your box was crushed at all. I hope people did. As for company policy I can't go into more detail of course, but gave you some insight. I'm thankful we got the foam placed on each panel before they were shipped as I think the problem would have been must worse than it was. As always thanks for all the feedback and thanks for wanting to know more and actually asking kindly of course,

Kim, we can't do that, but if you can find someone in the USA to buy it for you and do it, that would be the easiest solution for you I think. There has to be someone that if you PayPaled them some funds to buy it, they could do this and then send to you.

Okay back to work now on some cool projects...


Thanks for the explanation, Peter. You didn't answer every single one of my questions, dammit, but ah, the sweet mystery of life!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2018 - 11:59 AM   
 By:   Kim Peterson   (Member)


We designed the box, the company that produces these box sets for a wide variety of companys like Universal, Warner Bros. and several several high end labels not soundtrack labels put it all together. Discs come in these types of packages all the time, this isn't new.


Yes, it is not new to other labels, but it is new to Varese. It is sad that Varese has chosen to go in this direction in the past few years. From what I have been reading here, 95% of the discs that have been received with this set are playable, but are scuffed or scratched. That is unacceptable. There should be NO scratches or scuffs. To have a complete set unscratched, someone would have to buy multiple sets to get one good set, I do not see that happening, I so I will still pass on the set.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2018 - 12:08 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

ANY box set that uses cardboard slots is prone to problems. The facts that this type of packaging is common is irrelevant.. CD sets. DVD sets. Blu-ray sets. Scratches nearly every time! Cardboard slots should never be used.

Adding foam was never going to help. The design was flawed from the outset.

Please don't do it again.

If you must use cardboard, then simple slipcases are fine (without the aggressive plastic inserts that you used for the Elm Street box - which were just as harmful!)

 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2018 - 1:43 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

YEAH, it had a head in it!

ahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!

 
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