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 Posted:   May 19, 2019 - 10:34 PM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

I'm excited to hear this new score and any new thematic material that comes out of it. Trying to argue over opinions about whether a movie is good or not is as pointless as arguing with people over a new Game of Thrones episode. Enjoy what you enjoy and let others have their criticisms.

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2019 - 11:15 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

My feelings on the current crop aside, I am always in the market for new John Williams music and that goes double for new John Williams Star Wars

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2019 - 11:25 AM   
 By:   Nicholas_DW   (Member)

the forced diversity

Anyone using that phrase instantly loses all credibility. Diversity exists. Period. If you're of the mindset that it has to be justified in some way, the problem is you. I always found it absurd that there were only two people of color playing humans in the original trilogy. What's more absurd is that people are railing against the new movies since they've begun to remedy that.

If a movie incorporating people of color counts as a negative for the movie, you're the problem.

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2019 - 7:39 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

NEW Vanity Fair article about the film & score:

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/05/star-wars-cover-story

It includes this photo, which is either a shot from the Force Awakens recording sessions with the shot of Leia from the trailer of TROS photoshopped in, or from a new session for some sort of Leia tribute video

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2019 - 2:10 PM   
 By:   ST-321   (Member)

Saw this on Twitter 135 minutes of music in the film.

YouTube of Don Williams discussing the score:

https://t.co/vkrwQAjbpC?amp=1

It's cool stuff and I can't wait to hear this.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2019 - 3:34 PM   
 By:   Bill in Portland Maine   (Member)

Wow. I've never heard Don speak before. What an eloquent, down-to-earth tribute to his brother.

135 minutes of music. Yow.

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 Posted:   Aug 11, 2019 - 4:39 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

the forced diversity

Anyone using that phrase instantly loses all credibility. Diversity exists. Period. If you're of the mindset that it has to be justified in some way, the problem is you. I always found it absurd that there were only two people of color playing humans in the original trilogy. What's more absurd is that people are railing against the new movies since they've begun to remedy that.

If a movie incorporating people of color counts as a negative for the movie, you're the problem.


Who said that me? I don't remember. No one is against diversity. Though Disney and Hollywood are forcing diversity. The casting is based on sex, race and sexual preference first, then they try to write the characters. Which they don't really care about which is why no one really cares about them. Have you not been paying attention lately?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2019 - 4:45 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I can't wait for this album!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2019 - 5:09 PM   
 By:   ddddeeee   (Member)

I've been at Star Wars Celebration twice and each time there have been more people dressed as Rey than anyone else.

In the 2016 Celebration in London, we got to watch Star Wars and The Force Awakens on a big screen. People cheered at their favourite moments. The biggest cheer by far - across both movies - was when Rey grabbed the lightsaber to fight Ren.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2019 - 5:31 PM   
 By:   ST-321   (Member)

the forced diversity

Anyone using that phrase instantly loses all credibility. Diversity exists. Period. If you're of the mindset that it has to be justified in some way, the problem is you. I always found it absurd that there were only two people of color playing humans in the original trilogy. What's more absurd is that people are railing against the new movies since they've begun to remedy that.

If a movie incorporating people of color counts as a negative for the movie, you're the problem.


Who said that me? I don't remember. No one is against diversity. Though Disney and Hollywood are forcing diversity. The casting is based on sex, race and sexual preference first, then they try to write the characters. Which they don't really care about which is why no one really cares about them. Have you not been paying attention lately?


If you want to rant about diversity, forced or not why not do so elsewhere. I'd rather talk about music.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2019 - 6:28 PM   
 By:   igger6   (Member)

Guys, how can you be distracted by talk of diversity when Don Williams just revealed that David Newman’s theme from THE PHANTOM will be making its Star Wars debut in Episode IX?!

Was this a quid pro quo for taking WEST SIDE STORY off the Maestro’s plate? B-)

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2019 - 6:42 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

the forced diversity

Anyone using that phrase instantly loses all credibility. Diversity exists. Period. If you're of the mindset that it has to be justified in some way, the problem is you. I always found it absurd that there were only two people of color playing humans in the original trilogy. What's more absurd is that people are railing against the new movies since they've begun to remedy that.

If a movie incorporating people of color counts as a negative for the movie, you're the problem.


Who said that me? I don't remember. No one is against diversity. Though Disney and Hollywood are forcing diversity. The casting is based on sex, race and sexual preference first, then they try to write the characters. Which they don't really care about which is why no one really cares about them. Have you not been paying attention lately?


If you want to rant about diversity, forced or not why not do so elsewhere. I'd rather talk about music.


Well the Star Wars theme park based off the new trilogy is a bomb and Disney itself just said Star Wars merchandise sales have tanked and they're losing money.

Anyway back on the music. I guess its appropriate Williams finishes out the trilogy though his scores are very forgettable. Good for those that like "anything Williams", but I'll stick with the original trilogy music which never gets old.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2019 - 7:03 PM   
 By:   ST-321   (Member)


Anyway back on the music. I guess its appropriate Williams finishes out the trilogy though his scores are very forgettable. Good for those that like "anything Williams", but I'll stick with the original trilogy music which never gets old.


It's like we are listening to different music. There's nothing forgettable about Rey's Theme or The Rebellion Is Reborn.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2019 - 8:39 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)


Anyway back on the music. I guess its appropriate Williams finishes out the trilogy though his scores are very forgettable. Good for those that like "anything Williams", but I'll stick with the original trilogy music which never gets old.


It's like we are listening to different music. There's nothing forgettable about Rey's Theme or The Rebellion Is Reborn.


Rey's theme is the standout. But I honestly cannot remember anything else from the first two films musically speaking. I can hum Star Wars, Empire and Jedi in my head all day long.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2019 - 1:59 AM   
 By:   peterproud   (Member)

I'm gobsmacked.....had no idea that Johnny's brother was involved in this....he kinda brings it down to earth, though the completion of this saga by John Williams is far beyond any of us could have hoped for.

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2019 - 7:55 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Saw this on Twitter 135 minutes of music in the film.

YouTube of Don Williams discussing the score:

https://t.co/vkrwQAjbpC?amp=1

It's cool stuff and I can't wait to hear this.


I attended this ASA event, which was mainly a score study session on Jurassic Park, but Don did talk a bit about Williams' Episode IX scoring thus far. They'd been recording on a leisurely schedule to allow him to more musically tailor the music to sequences as they're re-edited and Don noted that Williams has written some especially difficult, challenging cues for the film. Don said he is continually amazed at John's ability to keep pushing himself in new compositional directions. He did talk about how pretty much every major theme from the series makes an appearance, but he described how they will often be hidden or buried, showing up for only a few bars and something that only reveals itself on many listens. With 135 minutes of music and scored almost wall-to-wall, that should give us a clue as to the film's running time.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2019 - 8:23 AM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

Guys, how can you be distracted by talk of diversity when Don Williams just revealed that David Newman’s theme from THE PHANTOM will be making its Star Wars debut in Episode IX?!

Was this a quid pro quo for taking WEST SIDE STORY off the Maestro’s plate? B-)


More seriously, it could be a quotation of Duel of the fates for the Phantom Menace....

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2019 - 9:25 AM   
 By:   Mike Petersen   (Member)

Guys, how can you be distracted by talk of diversity when Don Williams just revealed that David Newman’s theme from THE PHANTOM will be making its Star Wars debut in Episode IX?!

Was this a quid pro quo for taking WEST SIDE STORY off the Maestro’s plate? B-)


More seriously, it could be a quotation of Duel of the fates for the Phantom Menace....


I think he means the Emperor's Theme, since that deep male chorus -- spooky and phantom-like -- usually accompanies his appearances as a hologram, or hooded in his robe, or both.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2019 - 10:08 AM   
 By:   igger6   (Member)

I hope and assume he means "Duel of the Fates." That theme was criminally underused in the prequels. Its cameo in Episode II during Anakin's brooding speeder-bike ride has been the (sole) highlight of that film for me since the theater, and its brief nod at the end of Solo brought me as close to chills as I ever get in these movies.

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2019 - 10:49 AM   
 By:   Moviedrone   (Member)

the forced diversity

Anyone using that phrase instantly loses all credibility. Diversity exists. Period. If you're of the mindset that it has to be justified in some way, the problem is you. I always found it absurd that there were only two people of color playing humans in the original trilogy. What's more absurd is that people are railing against the new movies since they've begun to remedy that.

If a movie incorporating people of color counts as a negative for the movie, you're the problem.


Who said that me? I don't remember. No one is against diversity. Though Disney and Hollywood are forcing diversity. The casting is based on sex, race and sexual preference first, then they try to write the characters. Which they don't really care about which is why no one really cares about them. Have you not been paying attention lately?


No one really cares? Is that why these movies have made billions?

Did you ever think after decades of straight white men dominating movies behind and in front of the camera, it may be time to recognise that there is a lot more diversity in the world? Given the uproar over Rey (a woman) and Finn (a black person) by "fans", it's definitely time to address this. If that's "forcing diversity", good. It's needed.

 
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