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 Posted:   Nov 23, 2022 - 11:30 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

I compared the new Deluxe presentation to the old album presentation if anyone's curious

Bloody Christmas (track 1 vs track 29 0:00-1:41)

  • The album version has cool distant horns and strings during the first 43 seconds, while the film version streamlines things with just the main driving rhythmic idea.

    Turn It In (track 2 0:00-0:17)
    The Deal (track 2 0:17-end)
    The Badge (track 3)

  • These cues were not on the old album.

    The Café (track 4 vs track 30 0:00-1:21)

  • Sounds the same to me

    The I.D. (track 5 0:00-0:51)
    Odds (track 5 0:51-end)
    Late Arrival (track 6 0:00-0:50)
    The Raid (track 6 (0:50-end)

  • These cues were not on the old album

    Questions (track 7 vs track 31 0:20-end)

  • The album take has a different horn performance around 40 seconds in

    Back-Up (track 8 vs track 30 1:21-end)

  • Sounds the same to me

    Don’t Move (track 9)

  • This cue was not on the old album

    Bud and Lynn (track 10 vs track 29 1:41-end)

  • Sounds the same to me

    False Information (track 11 vs track 32 0:27-end)

  • The album take has a different tempo

    Susan Lefferts (track 12 vs track 32 0:00-0:27)
    Rats (track 13 0:00-1:50 vs track 33 0:58-end)
    A Gift (track 13 1:50-end vs track 31 0:00-0:20)

  • Sounds the same to me

    Rodents (track 14)

  • This cue was not on the old album

    Rollo Tomasi (track 15 vs track 34 1:03-end)

  • The album mix omits a synth effect heard in the film mix

    Not So Dumb After All (track 16 vs track 35 0:00-1:01)

  • Sounds the same to me

    The Facts (track 17)
    The Perp (track 18 0:00-0:55)
    Know Him? (track 18 0:55-end)
    Ex-Cop (track 19)

  • These cues were not on the old album.

    The Photos (track 20 vs track 35 1:01-end)
    Out of the Rain (track 21 vs track 33 (0:00-0:58)

  • Sounds the same to me

    Records (track 22)

  • This cue was not on the old album

    Out The Window (track 23 vs track 34 0:00-1:03)

  • Sounds the same to me

    Patchett’s Dead (track 24)

  • This cue was not on the old album

    The Keys (track 25 vs track 36)

  • The album version has horn and string passage from 1:08-1:22 that is not present in film version

    Visitors (track 26 0:00-2:35 vs track 37 0:00-2:26)

  • It's the same take, but Jerry shortened it for the old album

    The Shootout (track 26 2:35-end vs track 37 2:26-end)

  • It's the same take, but Jerry shortened it for the old album

    Good Lad (track 27 vs track 38)

  • The album version omits the opening, but has extra strings (from 1:46-end) that are missing from the film version (from 1:51-end)

    The Victor (track 28 vs track 39)

  • They're the same

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     Posted:   Nov 23, 2022 - 11:53 AM   
     By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

    Nice work! My guess is that part 1 of the Shootout” track is the cue originally titled “Visitors”:
    http://collections.new.oscars.org/Details/Archive/71303052

    Yavar

     
     Posted:   Nov 23, 2022 - 12:02 PM   
     By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

    Thanks, amended my post

     
     Posted:   Nov 25, 2022 - 6:17 AM   
     By:   The Mutant   (Member)

    Do we know when this ships?

     
     
     Posted:   Nov 25, 2022 - 3:04 PM   
     By:   MikeP   (Member)

    Do we know when this ships?

    They're already shipping, mine arrived today in the southern U.S.

     
     Posted:   Nov 25, 2022 - 3:53 PM   
     By:   johnonymous86   (Member)

    Do we know when this ships?

    They're already shipping, mine arrived today in the southern U.S.


    The real question is what condition did it arrive in?

     
     
     Posted:   Nov 26, 2022 - 5:46 AM   
     By:   MikeP   (Member)

    Do we know when this ships?

    They're already shipping, mine arrived today in the southern U.S.


    The real question is what condition did it arrive in?


    Perfect condition, not a scratch, crack or scuff. There were 2 titles in the package, both arrived safe and sound

     
     Posted:   Nov 26, 2022 - 7:19 AM   
     By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

    Maybe Neil can tell us how "The Victor (Film Version)" is different from the album version? I cannot figure out what the difference is.

     
     Posted:   Nov 26, 2022 - 7:55 AM   
     By:   NSBulk   (Member)

    No difference. I think the title was amended for the digital release because you can't have two tracks with the same title. Since the first version is with the score presentation "film version" was added.

     
     Posted:   Nov 26, 2022 - 8:15 AM   
     By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

    Ahhhhhhh, that explains it! Thanks so much!

     
     
     Posted:   Nov 29, 2022 - 1:53 PM   
     By:   jwb1   (Member)

    What is going on at Varese seriously? Placed my order on the 18th and still not shipped and they don't answer emails.

     
     
     Posted:   Nov 30, 2022 - 4:46 AM   
     By:   Roy Donga   (Member)

    What is going on at Varese seriously? Placed my order on the 18th and still not shipped and they don't answer emails.

    Same here, they’re supposed to ship within 5 - 7 business days.

     
     
     Posted:   Dec 6, 2022 - 11:24 AM   
     By:   jwb1   (Member)

    What is going on at Varese seriously? Placed my order on the 18th and still not shipped and they don't answer emails.

    Same here, they’re supposed to ship within 5 - 7 business days.


    Well I had to to get a refund as it looks like they had no intention of shipping my order. It should not take up 4-5 weeks to ship 2 items that were ordered on release day.

    I will never be buying anything from Varese website anymore.

     
     
     Posted:   Dec 15, 2022 - 12:23 PM   
     By:   El Aurence   (Member)

    Once in a time.

    The movie is an instant classic. Brillant screenwriting, editing, over the top performances, superb casting and directing.

    Hollywood at its best.

    Just finished listening to the entire score.

    The music is very "masculine", aggressive, energetic, trumpet led, heavily percussive and with a fine dose synthesizer. Matches the motion picture(s) perfectly.

    The opening titles "Bloody Christmas" are like a punch.

    Excellent music to listen to while driving the car (another good one: Bullit by Shifrin).

    Vintage Goldsmith.

    Very welcome release.

    Thanks Varsese!

     
     Posted:   Dec 15, 2022 - 12:44 PM   
     By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

    Bloody Christmas isn’t the opening titles piece; it was the first score cue but didn’t appear until a quarter hour into the film. Everything before then? Period songs.

    Yavar

     
     Posted:   Dec 15, 2022 - 12:55 PM   
     By:   The Mutant   (Member)

    Still waiting for mine. It’s stuck at “shipping label created”

     
     
     Posted:   Dec 15, 2022 - 1:04 PM   
     By:   The Shadow   (Member)

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     Posted:   Dec 15, 2022 - 1:51 PM   
     By:   Thgil   (Member)

    What is going on at Varese seriously? Placed my order on the 18th and still not shipped and they don't answer emails.

    Same here, they’re supposed to ship within 5 - 7 business days.


    This is why I refuse to order through them anymore. The extra $5 spent getting their releases through other stores is worth the headache saved.

     
     Posted:   Dec 15, 2022 - 2:28 PM   
     By:   Adventures of Jarre Jarre   (Member)

  • Still waiting for mine. It’s stuck at “shipping label created”

    Unless a quick sellout is on the horizon, this is why I wait a while to order after club release times settle. That and the reviews about brickwalling.

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     Posted:   Dec 17, 2022 - 2:18 AM   
     By:   Roy Donga   (Member)

    Mine was stuck at the label printed stage for a week, in other words they hadn’t sent it to the courier. The courier has it now though; it took Varese 4 weeks to put it in the box.

     
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