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 Posted:   Dec 13, 2021 - 10:04 AM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

This set is only 8 minutes longer than the movie.


The more you know...

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2021 - 11:49 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

I'll admit that my feelings about the film are colored by my love for the show. My mother took my brother and me to see Zero Mostel in the revival when I was twelve. It was an amazing experience, and so the film has always disappointed me.

This release finally got me to see the movie for the first time. I've been avoiding it, I guess, for fifty years. So here is just another perspective.

I first saw Fiddler with my mom in probably 1967 with Herschel Bernardi, in Omaha of all places. I was only 6, but man did it imprint on me (just as Schiffy mentioned later in the post I quoted). My first favorite musical, only supplanted years later by Sondheim. (Just found Bernardi's one-man-band album running through the songs on Spotify - enjoyable in its own right.)

And then we saw Mostel in the revival tour in '76, the year before he died. I was doing local theater by then (in Denver), and I was actually shocked and disappointed by how much mugging and improvising Mostel did to get easy laughs from the audience. It felt disrespectful to the show and the rest of the cast - but I'm talking about a couple of bits, otherwise who could be disappointed by Tevye himself.

So I had no desire to see the movie ever, and was like so many miffed that they went with Topol instead of Mostel. But now I've seen it and been listening to the astonishing new release, and I feel much more warmly toward the film and Topol's performance than I expected. And am frankly glad this release finally got me to see the movie.

I can easily understand the issue of loss of intimacy that Schiffy raises, and it's true, a good performance on stage will have power in this show that the movie won't match. But I'm so glad of this release and of finally catching up - and I'll see the movie again. Would have loved to have seen Topol on stage.

 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2021 - 1:03 PM   
 By:   emusician   (Member)

Any chance someone who's smarter than me can post hi-res pics of the other two covers inserted in this set (the first booklet front and back)?

 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2021 - 1:37 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

LLL has not made those available to the public.

You'd have to find some willing willing to scan their purchased set and post that online

 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2021 - 8:31 PM   
 By:   Dr. Nigel Channing   (Member)

Just have to say this is an extraordinary release, and the booklet is one of the best I have ever seen. Mike's commentary is fantastic.

 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2021 - 11:58 PM   
 By:   Loren   (Member)

Mike Matessino was on RTE Lyric FM with Aedin Gormley yesterday, briefly talking about this release and introducing a couple of tracks. He can be heard around 1:40 into the programme...

https://www.rte.ie/radio/lyricfm/movies-and-musicals/programmes/2021/1211/1266199-movies-and-musicals-saturday-11-december-2021/


Amazing listening! Is this downloadable?

 
 Posted:   Dec 15, 2021 - 10:36 PM   
 By:   Mike Matessino   (Member)

FYI they played the playback version of Sunrise, Sunset, which is monaural and does not have Isaac Stern on the recording.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2021 - 2:41 AM   
 By:   timburdenvoice   (Member)

Yes, to clarify this wasn’t Mike’s error. I’m partly to blame for not being as clear as I was with Classic FM and their coverage.

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2021 - 7:09 PM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)

Michael Coate at The Digital Bits looks back at the film on its 50th Anniversary.

https://thedigitalbits.com/columns/history-legacy-showmanship/fiddler-on-the-roof-50th

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2021 - 6:48 AM   
 By:   Panavision70   (Member)

Track 11, "First Act Finale," sounds very much like "Trapped" from "The Towering Inferno." Without the interpolation of "We May Never Love Like This Again."

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2021 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   Turbo   (Member)

For anybody interested, here is a more complete/chronological version of the soundtrack.

D3-1 - Timpani Fanfare (:19)
D2-1 - Prologue and Tradition & Main Title (Alternate) (11:31)
D2-2 - Matchmaker (Alternate) (3:45)*
D2-3 - If I Were A Rich Man (Alternate) (5:00)
D2-4 - Sabbath Prayer (Alternate) (2:42)
D3-5 - Tevye Thinks On It (1:04)
D2-5 - To Life (Alternate) (6:21)
D3-7 - Street Scene And Riverbank (:58)
D3-8 - Perchik And Hodel Dance (:46)
D3-9 - Tevye's Monologue (2:40)
D2-6 - Miracle of Miracles (Alternate) (2:11)*
D3-11 - Chava Takes The Book (:45)
D2-7 - Tevye's Dream (Alternate) (:00-5:51)
D3-12 - Dream Epilogue (:28)
D3-13 - Wedding Preparation (:52)
D3-14 - Wedding Procession (Playback Version) (2:20)
D2-8 - Sunrise, Sunset (Alternate) (3:52)
D2-9 - Wedding Celebration And The Bottle Dance (Instrumental) (3:50)
D1-11 - First Act Finale (1:30)
D1-12 - Entr'acte (1:51)
D3-16 - The Cornfield - Tradition (:49)
D3-17 - Socio-Economic Relationship (:35)
D2-10 - Any Day Now (Unused) (2:47)
D3-19 - Tevye's Rebuttal (2:37)
D2-11 - Do You Love Me? (Alternate) (3:15)
D2-12 - Far From The Home I Love (Alternate) (3:05)
D3-22 - Russian Church (1:38)
D2-13 - Chava Ballet Sequence (Alternate) (2:37)
D2-14 - The Rejection Scene (Instrumental) (1:35)
D2-15 - Anatevka (Alternate) (3:44)
D3-24 - Exodus (Excerpt) (1:35)
D2-16 - Finale (Alternate) (2:05)

Bonus Tracks:
D3-2 - Matchmaker (Playback Version) (4:46)
D3-3 - If I Were A Rich Man (Playback Version) (5:05)
D3-4 - Sabbath Prayer (Playback Version) (2:43)
D3-6 - To Life (Playback Version) (6:48)
D3-10 - Miracle of Miracles (Playback Version) (2:21)
D2-7 - Tevye's Dream (Alternate) (5:51-End) [Rename to "Tevye's Dream (Original Ending)"]
D3-15 - Sunrise, Sunset (Playback Version) (3:47)
D3-18 - Any Day Now (Playback Version) (2:48)
D3-20 - Do You Love Me? (Playback Version) (3:15)
D3-21 - Far From The Home I Love (Playback Version) (2:28)
D3-23 - Anatevka (Playback Version) (2:46)
D3-25 - Fiddler On The Roof (Instrumental) (1:46)

* = There is additional intro music on the playback version riddled with sound effects which can be incorporated if desired

More here: https://chrono-score.blogspot.com/2017/11/fiddler-on-roof-1971.html

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 1, 2022 - 12:54 PM   
 By:   Mike0072022   (Member)

I know this blog on Fiddler has ended somewhat, but I’ve just got my copy of it delivered here in the UK and I have to say that it is everything I would expect of the hard work that went into creating ,or should I say, recreating and improving the sound as it was recorded and Mike Matessino is the right man , in the right place and at the right time to bring us these expanded soundtracks ,especially of John Williams .
I met Mike for the first time in the UK with my good friend Tim Burden (Legacy of JW) a few years back when the maestro was supposed to play at the Royal Albert Hall but was incapacitated .
And I have to say after chatting and listening to Mike it is clear that we owe a debt of gratitude to this man for all the hard work and dedication he puts in to every expanded score. I’m sure that the 9 Star Wars Films and The Indiana Jones films will eventually be the subject of full restorations by him, but in the meantime I always await patiently any expansion that comes from Mike’s studio.
I think that in the distant future we should have a website dedicated to Mike ( The Legacy of Mike Matessino perhaps ) showcasing all his hard work and all the soundtracks that he has touched and made phenomenally better than when we first heard them whether it be on vinyl, tape or CD all those years ago.
I wish him all the very best for 2022 and I , like many fans out there of his work, look forward to his next John Williams expanded soundtrack with bated breath.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 1, 2022 - 1:40 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

My copy still sits with Intrada (with some other titles) and will probably get to me sometime in January, so I will be back with my ramblings when that day comes to pass.
Glad to read all the positive plaudits so far.
And yes, we owe great thanks to Mike M and Chris Malone and James Nelson (amongst others) who do sterling work in preserving and improving the music we love so much.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2022 - 2:17 AM   
 By:   Vincent van den Ouden   (Member)

I wonder why there is no version of Tradition without the spoken dialogue, included on the set though? I know it's integral to the construct of the song, but it sometimes deviates from the wonderful orchestral performance.

But first and foremost, I love the release. Everything sounds so very crisp and colourfull. Even though the songs are by Brock, you can clearly already tell Williams' trademarks that are seeping through in some of the arrangements.


 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2022 - 6:16 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Just received my copy (together with some Pino, Ennio, Craig and those Newton Brothers).
The whole presentation looks fantastic.
I love that the track titles are in a separate 12 page booklet (as they're not displayed on the back of the CD for obvious space reasons) and the 50 page booklet is sumptuous.
You can tell this is a REAL labour of love from Mike-M (and that's really saying something, when you consider his previous efforts).
I can't wait to get stuck in to reading it.
Oh, and there's the joy of spinning the 3 discs too! Can't Wait smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2022 - 9:30 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Socio-Economic Relationship.
35 SECONDS!
John Williams.
How Does He Do It smile

Also...
Russian Church.
That 'churning/waves' effect from POSEIDON ADVENTURE!!
JOY!!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2022 - 9:41 AM   
 By:   nerfTractor   (Member)

This release is just overwhelming. Endless unheard riches, impeccable sound, and a practically novella-length booklet on all aspects of the musical production, and so much gorgeous artwork throughout. This has to be one of La-La and Mike's greatest accomplishments. I'll be listening to this intensely for weeks to come, and I know I'll return to it for the rest of my life.

This is the release of the year in my opinion.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2022 - 10:19 AM   
 By:   scatmanjack   (Member)


Live Performance of Williams' Charts in March 2022.

https://slippedisc.com/2022/02/philly-to-play-fiddler-on-the-roof-in-john-williams-score/

https://www.philorch.org/performances/our-season/events-and-tickets/2021-22-season/winter-spring/fiddler-on-the-roof/

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2022 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   themusicman926   (Member)

Live Performance of Williams' Charts in March 2022.

https://slippedisc.com/2022/02/philly-to-play-fiddler-on-the-roof-in-john-williams-score/

https://www.philorch.org/performances/our-season/events-and-tickets/2021-22-season/winter-spring/fiddler-on-the-roof/



Just attended the (2nd) premiere performance in Michigan last night! What an amazing performance! I was admittedly a little disappointed with the "watering down" of this restoration of the score (the orchestra only had about a quarter of its entire string section, and all ethnic strings (ie. cimbalom, zither, mandolin, etc) that are featured on the original soundtrack recording were removed from the arrangement (most likely due to making the orchestrations more accessible to smaller orchestras). However, this is very common for live presentations of film arrangements and overall I would 100% see it again if it ever plays in a city that's closer again.

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2022 - 11:21 PM   
 By:   Richard May   (Member)

This appears to have gone from LaLaLands website. Has this sold out then?

 
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