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Jun 4, 2019 - 2:57 PM
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kenisu3000
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A few years ago it used to be I was annoyed by the fact that people were more interested in the NES game than the cartoon. I'd go on YouTube, search "ducktales" and IIRC all the top results would be videos about the game. And you could forget about searching for "ducktales music" if you were looking for the Ron Jones score, because that would just bring up 20 million different remixes of the Moon theme, again from the NES game. I mean, I enjoy me some Moon theme just as much as the next guy, but if I were looking for something else entirely and that kept popping up, it could get VERY frustrating. I was sure this "wait, there was a CARTOON too??" attitude the entire Internet seemed to have was not doing the Ron Jones score any favors toward an official release.
So, the massive DuckTales craze I went through a few years ago (not just "hey, I still love this show", but outright living-breathing-eating it) was sort of punctured by a number of things: the announcement of the reboot, the news about Disney saying no to a score release, and the fact that IDW's Uncle Scrooge comics couldn't accept new writers/artists (so much for my ambitions), so that by the time the reboot was only a few months old, my enthusiasm for the thing that inspired me to become a cartoonist in the first place, appreciate film scores, and overall add so much color and wonder to my life, had fully died down.
When the reboot was first announced I knew, just KNEW, it would destroy any chance my favorite show had of being untainted by a toxic, divided fanbase, to say nothing of getting its music score out there. I KNEW the old-school, episodic writing and sometimes slightly flawed characterization would have trouble standing up to today's general public's preference for edgy backstories and epic storylines that span whole seasons, and that newcomers and veterans alike would point to this and use it as an excuse to bash the '80s series to smithereens.
When the pilot finally aired, I actually breathed a sigh of relief, because I found it very lackluster compared to the classic series' pilot, and for a short blessed moment I was confident people would recognize the stark difference and not let the reboot swallow up the original.
Boy, was I an idiot.
The other day I take a peek back into things, and what do I find? As far as the Internet is concerned, it's almost as if the original series had never existed. Search "ducktales" on YouTube and you get essentially a bombardment of reboot clips - only maybe one or two videos having anything to do with the classic show managed to squeeze themselves in there. Click on any of those, and read the comments if you want your blood to boil.
It's even WORSE than I predicted, because I see barely anyone defending the original series. The fanbase is hardly divided at all - it's a unified "old show is old, and that sucks".
Talk about depressing. The '80s series symbolized childhood innocence for me, just about the last thing dear to me that hadn't been tainted by modern trends, and even if people I talked to barely remembered it, what memories they did have were fond.
Now everyone hates it and bashes it. It's become the butt of a joke.
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I read that the new show recently aired its last episode. If that's what had been holding up a release of Ron Jones' score, then I wonder if there is any chance to have it released now.
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Jun 30, 2021 - 7:35 AM
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ryanpaquet
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I wrote Ron Jones during the pandemic and he was kind enough to reply. I wrote on Sept 30, 2020 and he replied the same day, here's what he had to say.
"RP:
It still comes down to money, to re-use payments. Disney does not want to spend bucks. I have a set of master tapes just sitting here gathering dust. They have a set, sitting in a vault. I might be out of the loop and they do not have to check with me to release a DT album. We tried several ways and through different people. I did not get the feeling that Disney was going to actually grant permission. That is the current status.
I compose music and am driven to see what I can create today. I have invested my life in hopefully becoming a composer that can bring music to life, to tell a story or a concept. Waiting around for a big corporation, especially during a Pandemic, to get off its rear and do anything, is wishful thinking. At least, from my POV. I would not waste more mental energy on this question. The ball is in their court and they choose not to play. Simple.
Got to go,
Ron Jones
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Years ago at the Intrada board, Doug or Roger said Disney wasn't interested in licensing out to third parties their animated scores. Maybe I am mis-remembering and they said animated films, but one has to assume at some point this will happen. Score fans are asking for this, which makes it different than say "Gummie Bears" and "Marsupilami".
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Years ago at the Intrada board, Doug or Roger said Disney wasn't interested in licensing out to third parties their animated scores. Maybe I am mis-remembering and they said animated films, but one has to assume at some point this will happen. Score fans are asking for this, which makes it different than say "Gummie Bears" and "Marsupilami".
You are mis-remembering a bit. They have on occasion named certain animated films which Disney wanted to keep for themselves -- Mulan and The Rescuers were specified, at least. But Disney obviously allowed them to expand and release The Rescuers Down Under in their normal line, and The Black Cauldron as a special Disney co-branded thing (see also: three of Joel McNeely's seven Tinker Bell scores).
Alas, what Roger said (several years ago, when they made an effort to release DuckTales) was off-limits in terms of Disney is *anything TV-related*. Doesn't matter whether it's animated or not -- DuckTales by Ron Jones and Lalo Schifrin's Earth Star Voyager are presumably in the same boat. Same goes for Shirley Walker's The Love Bug (live action) and Fluppy Dogs (animated). They'd probably have better luck releasing her score for the Mysterious Island attraction (though their Bruce Broughton theme park music album seems very delayed, so maybe not).
It seems that different people oversee Disney TV and Intrada doesn't have an "in" with them the same way they do for other Disney stuff.
Yavar
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Well, the comment was years before those releases, which I had forgotten about, so some changes must have happened. Heck, they are still working on the Broughton theme park pieces, even though an old 2002 post here at FSM had Roger say Disney refused to license out their theme park music for third parties (that obviously has changed, too).
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Well, the comment was years before those releases, which I had forgotten about, so some changes must have happened. Heck, they are still working on the Broughton theme park pieces, even though an old 2002 post here at FSM had Roger say Disney refused to license out their theme park music for third parties (that obviously has changed, too).
I don't think we know that. I don't think the Disney co-branded line (http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/sc.16/category.22841/.f) would count as "third party" to Disney (I think more of their own employees work on those), though maybe the way they licensed out The Rescuers Down Under would qualify (but that wasn't theme park music). Since Roger said that before their relationship with Disney grew and the co-branded line was born, I think it's possible Intrada found a way around that hurdle without it changing, exactly.
Yavar
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