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 Posted:   Oct 30, 2020 - 11:59 AM   
 By:   Tom Maguire   (Member)

Listening on Apple Music now. Doing the whole thing start to finish. Haven't listened to Tangram in years.
While I'm surely sad to not have the actual score for The Keep, the expanded Logos concert, which is being called The Dominion Theater Concert, is my most eagerly awaited listen.
The Soldier will be a fun bonus - I've never seen the movie.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2020 - 12:33 PM   
 By:   lomaxfellow   (Member)

I plan on having a few drinks and listening to the Dominion concert tonight. It's like an extended Logos album. I gave it a quick skim and I'm looking forward to that.

The Soldier is excellent even though 2 tracks are missing. Cue #1 Logos variation is one of the most frightening pieces I've heard from TD. The industrial ambient sound it has is great.

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2020 - 12:51 PM   
 By:   DJS   (Member)

OK, here some self-made track titles for The Soldier smile

1) Main Titles
2) Philadelphia Ambush
3) Port Arrival
4) Nuclear Transport
5) Crossing The Border
6) Planting The Device
7) Interrogation
8) The Soldier Theme
9) Meeting Dracha
10) Ski Chase
11) Escape From The Embassy
12) Assembling The Team
13) The Codes
14) Romance At The Wall
15) The Silo
16) Finale
17) End Titles


An excellent tracklist. Mine is very similar and we both used some of the exact same titles lol! It's interesting that if you compare Johannes Schmoelling's EARLY BEGINNINGS release of The Soldier Theme, the track is mixed much louder and the time frames are quite different. EB version is 2:25 while the Pilots version is only 1:49 and mixed much lower in volume along with other obvious differences.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2020 - 12:58 PM   
 By:   lomaxfellow   (Member)

OK, here some self-made track titles for The Soldier smile

1) Main Titles
2) Philadelphia Ambush
3) Port Arrival
4) Nuclear Transport
5) Crossing The Border
6) Planting The Device
7) Interrogation
8) The Soldier Theme
9) Meeting Dracha
10) Ski Chase
11) Escape From The Embassy
12) Assembling The Team
13) The Codes
14) Romance At The Wall
15) The Silo
16) Finale
17) End Titles


An excellent tracklist. Mine is very similar and we both used some of the exact same titles lol! It's interesting that if you compare Johannes Schmoelling's EARLY BEGINNINGS release of The Soldier Theme, the track is mixed much louder and the time frames are quite different. EB version is 2:25 while the Pilots version is only 1:49 and mixed much lower in volume along with other obvious differences.


I changed my Main Title and End titles to "The Soldiers March and The Soldiers Victory respectively. Gave it more of an album feel than a soundtrack feel.

Was thinking of editing Logos to add a short mp3 to replace the light bulb bomb and also add the longer version of The Soldier Theme from EB for the scene of The Soldiers force arriving in Kansas

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2020 - 5:44 PM   
 By:   DJS   (Member)


I changed my Main Title and End titles to "The Soldiers March and The Soldiers Victory respectively. Gave it more of an album feel than a soundtrack feel.

Was thinking of editing Logos to add a short mp3 to replace the light bulb bomb and also add the longer version of The Soldier Theme from EB for the scene of The Soldiers force arriving in Kansas


"It's so f-ing flat!" I'm doing that as well to help round it out. Are you hearing that amazingly solid bass drum connect on all the tracks? Has to be a TR-808.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2020 - 5:56 PM   
 By:   lomaxfellow   (Member)

I swear, I hear a different nuance everytime I listen to them. Either on my computer or with headphones. It's like discovering uncharted waters.

And too bad there isnt a substitute harpsichord piece from TD. That cue was certainly a one of a kind.

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2020 - 12:01 AM   
 By:   Lewis&Clark   (Member)

I like THE KEEP album in this set. It's not what's in the movie but a nice companion piece "music from and inspired by" to the unofficial THE KEEP Restoration Project - now that one is a real KEEPer unless the very same music is being released officially (which is most likely never gonna happen).

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2020 - 12:50 PM   
 By:   lomaxfellow   (Member)

I like THE KEEP album in this set. It's not what's in the movie but a nice companion piece "music from and inspired by" to the unofficial THE KEEP Restoration Project - now that one is a real KEEPer unless the very same music is being released officially (which is most likely never gonna happen).

I think the same goes for a lot of the missing cues from Thief. I ripped the 5.1 audio from the DVD and noticed a bunch of unreleased cues like the 2 film versions of Diamond Diary. Also the music playing when Willie Nelson tells James Caan to get him out of prison and Caan persuading Tuesday Weld to be with him. There's a few others too...but I don't think we'll ever hear them. If they existed, I'm sure they would have been released with this set. It may be lighter than Hades, but probably because the material is missing or damaged. Or...Franke or Schmoelling has them and don't want to give them up.

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2020 - 12:55 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I like THE KEEP album in this set. It's not what's in the movie but a nice companion piece "music from and inspired by" to the unofficial THE KEEP Restoration Project - now that one is a real KEEPer unless the very same music is being released officially (which is most likely never gonna happen).

I think the same goes for a lot of the missing cues from Thief. I ripped the 5.1 audio from the DVD and noticed a bunch of unreleased cues like the 2 film versions of Diamond Diary. Also the music playing when Willie Nelson tells James Caan to get him out of prison and Caan persuading Tuesday Weld to be with him. There's a few others too...but I don't think we'll ever hear them. If they existed, I'm sure they would have been released with this set. It may be lighter than Hades, but probably because the material is missing or damaged. Or...Franke or Schmoelling has them and don't want to give them up.



Lots of the unreleased stuff from Thief is just Thru Metamorphic Rocks from Force Majeure

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2020 - 1:19 PM   
 By:   lomaxfellow   (Member)

Lots of the unreleased stuff from Thief is just Thru Metamorphic Rocks from Force Majeure

That's just one track. The second half is just an extended version of "Igneous"

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2020 - 3:35 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

But the first portions of it were used in the scene where Frank has a falling out with his employers and then drives to the used car lot.

 
 Posted:   Nov 1, 2020 - 11:58 AM   
 By:   Tom Maguire   (Member)

Just noticed Disc 2 (Thief) and Disc 3 (Exit) are missing on Spotify and Apple Music fyi.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 1, 2020 - 2:03 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Just noticed Disc 2 (Thief) and Disc 3 (Exit) are missing on Spotify and Apple Music fyi.


Also missing from the Amazon Music version, too.

Swell.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 1, 2020 - 9:49 PM   
 By:   goozer   (Member)

I think the same goes for a lot of the missing cues from Thief. I ripped the 5.1 audio from the DVD and noticed a bunch of unreleased cues like the 2 film versions of Diamond Diary. Also the music playing when Willie Nelson tells James Caan to get him out of prison and Caan persuading Tuesday Weld to be with him. There's a few others too...but I don't think we'll ever hear them. If they existed, I'm sure they would have been released with this set. It may be lighter than Hades, but probably because the material is missing or damaged. Or...Franke or Schmoelling has them and don't want to give them up.

There is exactly 9:51 of music in 8 specific cues that was not used for the soundtrack release. The longest of these are the two barely audible segments of the cue that plays under the "Frank's Life" scene (4:00). The next longest cue is "Barry's Acid Bath/Back To Work" (2:22). The remaining six cues range between :20 and 1:01, and are all just basically ambient chords. It's not known (but unlikely) if these "lost" cues were developed for release as part of the soundtrack like the rest of the score was.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 1, 2020 - 9:51 PM   
 By:   goozer   (Member)

Just noticed Disc 2 (Thief) and Disc 3 (Exit) are missing on Spotify and Apple Music fyi.


Also missing from the Amazon Music version, too.

Swell.


That's because Elektra still owns the distribution rights for those two albums in the US.

 
 Posted:   Nov 2, 2020 - 8:04 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Well, I guess Tangerine Tree #54 doesn't get retired just yet.
Maybe in another 20 years...

 
 Posted:   Nov 2, 2020 - 10:20 AM   
 By:   DJS   (Member)

My set (with poster) arrived this morning. The ship notice was saying it would take about 10 working days so I'm pretty giddy it showed up so fast. I went in with some buddies to get the zip file off Amazon so I could have it release day and I'm glad I did. I wasn't looking forward to ripping all the discs and none of the tracks seem to have info tags yet. Poster's virtually identical to the one that was in the EXIT album (though it has more of a matte finish). The quality of the book is absolutely stunning. Hats off to the chaps that put their sweat and blood into this historical release. It's beyond a work of art.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 2, 2020 - 12:26 PM   
 By:   Michael_McMahan   (Member)

Yeah, that was really fast! Listening to the Dominion Concert Pt 1. right now. Sounds incredible. Beautiful set

 
 Posted:   Nov 2, 2020 - 1:04 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Crazy fast shipping from UK to Canada. Mine is waiting for me at home.


Edit

Just got home and opened it up. This packaging nearly gave me a heart attack. I totally thought I had ordered the LP by accident. If there is such a thing.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2020 - 4:00 AM   
 By:   ROBERT Z   (Member)

THE KEEP in this box is only and definitively a new édition of this limited édition:

https://www.discogs.com/fr/Tangerine-Dream-The-Keep-Original-Motion-Picture-Soundtrack/release/3980725

Not the original score from the movie.

Correction:


"Tangerine Dream - Pilots Of Purple Twilight (The Virgin Recordings 1980-1983) — Wouter123 3 novembre 2020
edité 17 minutes ago

Hi, I was involved in the production of this box set. Your statement is incorrect.

You refer to the TDI 1997 version of The Keep. That one is different to the version in this box set, which is in fact the 1984 original version.

The original soundtrack of The Keep is exactly what is in the box set.
Nothing less, nothing more. There is no other album version of The Keep.
I guess you refer to the raw movie cues that appeared on various bootlegs... but those have never been planned to end up on an official album whatsoever.

Remember: TD never simply compiled a bunch of movie cues to produce a soundtrack album. The band always 'produced' a true album structure featuring music material that is featured in the actual movie. That is what happened with, for instance, albums such as Thief, Sorcerer, etc.. These don't contain 1:1 movie cues as well. And the other soundtrack albums (on for instance the Silva Screen and Varese Sarabande labels) which do mostly contain raw movie cues were issued without the consent of the band - simply because the band didn't own the publishing rights for the music and consequently these albums were beyond their control.

Here's some more differences between the 1997 TDI version and the version in this box set:

- The box set version contains the original track sequence, while the 1997 version is in shuffle mode.

- There's one track that is wrongly titled on the 1997 version (Parallel Worlds), but now documented in the box set correctly following the original 1984 track info (Parallel Words).

- The 1997 version is lossy sourced (MiniDisc) and mastered too loud, while the box set version uses the original 1/4" tapes @15 ips and has all dynamics intact."


 
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