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 Posted:   Oct 17, 2024 - 1:56 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Less than 100 units remaining at the US store

(noted via shopping cart quantities, no official disclaimer posted)


You can't go by that, as they may not have pressed the full amount.

 
 Posted:   Oct 19, 2024 - 5:30 PM   
 By:   Landstander   (Member)

Interesting that there are people encountering problems ripping this CD, as it was the first time in a while a CD gave me trouble as well. I am ripping with EAC to ALAC, and I had to set EAC to disallow the CD player to slow down during ripping; I set it to the fixed speed of "20x". That worked for me.
I did play THE OTHER as a CD in my hifi setup, it played fine there.


Interesting. Is that found under "Drive Options"? When I look there, the only setting for Speed Selection is "Current."


In EAC, it's under "EAC/Drive Options.../"Offset/Speed"
There is a drop down menu (which usually says "current") and a checkbox "Allow speed reduction during extraction". This checkbox is normally checked (why not), but some drives slow down very, very much, but never speed up again after slowdown. This then leads to a CD rip taking days. I set the speed to "20x" (it says "current" if there is no disc inserted, but if you insert a disc, you usually see a number of speeds. I chose "20x" because it was fast, but not the maximum I could have chosen). So I set a fixed speed, and unchecked the box "Allow speed reduction during extraction". That worked for me. Came out as "accurately ripped/confirmed".


You're a king among men. That got me to an accurate result. I still needed to try multiple drives and speed settings but I eventually got to a setting that worked. Thank you so much!

I tried the same process on Sudden Death multiple, multiple times with only 4 tracks being verified as accurate but at least no errors occurred.

I'll ask the question again, why is it only Varese discs that are this problematic? What is it about their production process that produces these types of reading and encoding problems? Intrada and LLL discs have had zero problems, ever.

 
 Posted:   Oct 19, 2024 - 5:40 PM   
 By:   Josh   (Member)

Jeez, what a headache with all this ripping nonsense. I just put the damned thing in the CD player and press play.

 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2024 - 12:55 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)



You're a king among men. That got me to an accurate result. I still needed to try multiple drives and speed settings but I eventually got to a setting that worked. Thank you so much!


I'm happy that it worked for you as well!



I tried the same process on Sudden Death multiple, multiple times with only 4 tracks being verified as accurate but at least no errors occurred.

I'll ask the question again, why is it only Varese discs that are this problematic? What is it about their production process that produces these types of reading and encoding problems? Intrada and LLL discs have had zero problems, ever.



In case of SUDDEN DEATH, I had not problems ripping it at all, and apparently neither had you. If EAC reported no errors, it means at least that EAC correctly ripped all the data from the CD. If AccurateRip could not confirm all tracks, that probably only means that there is not (yet) enough data in the database, after all, it's a NEW CD that just came onto the market. Standard EAC setting transfers ripping data once every 30 days to the database, so it will be a while before the data is there. When I ripped SUDDEN DEATH, I had no trouble ripping it at all, no errors occured, but no track could be verified, simply because the database didn't have the data yet.

 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2024 - 12:56 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Jeez, what a headache with all this ripping nonsense. I just put the damned thing in the CD player and press play.


Used to do that, but now I only play files anymore. Would not ever want to go back.
(Well, I did go back and play THE OTHER as CD just to make sure it plays fine.)

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2024 - 10:03 AM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Jeez, what a headache with all this ripping nonsense. I just put the damned thing in the CD player and press play.

A hearty Cheers from one Dinosaur to another, mate! Reading all that gave me stress!
Hell, my car is the last model that will have a built in cd player i was told. Long may she ride....

Fantastic album all around, very happy to have it.

 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2024 - 3:44 PM   
 By:   Landstander   (Member)

Jeez, what a headache with all this ripping nonsense. I just put the damned thing in the CD player and press play.

Are you being serious? Ripping is a deliberate choice to 1) increase the longevity of your purchase and 2) dramatically increase the reach and flexibility of use.

Once a disc is ripped to FLAC or WAV, you can store it indefinitely and thus minimize the handling of the disc. And since it's a lossless format you are not losing any quality.

Now that a high-quality digital facsimile exists, it can be listened to without the limitations of needing a CD player or carry CDs. It's the opposite of nonsense.

 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2024 - 5:59 PM   
 By:   Josh   (Member)

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2024 - 6:33 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

yeah, yawn, tech the tech the tech, Geordi

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2024 - 6:35 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

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 Posted:   Oct 20, 2024 - 6:36 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

"Rip" van Winkle, after a long day of 'rip'-ping compact discs.

[A&C might say he's Rip van Wanker]

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2024 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   maurizio.caschetto   (Member)

That is one of the all-time textbook examples of great film scoring to make you feel what the character is feeling. Can you even imagine a cue like that in today's droning, thumbing scoring? Because that's what you'd get, or that woman who wrote Joker playing two notes together on her cello.

I'm finally listening to this beautiful new edition and this thought above came up to my mind as well. I am probably becoming too much of an old cantankerous fogey when it comes to current aesthetics of film scoring, but I cannot do anything but sigh whenever I face a brilliant example of expressive film scoring such as THE OTHER and realize how much things have changed. It was another era and it's not fair to compare apples with oranges, but it seems to me that something got lost in the last two decades when it comes to let music be a true expressive component in a motion picture, especially thrillers and stuff that deals with psychological nuances.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2024 - 5:35 PM   
 By:   Phil567   (Member)

I received my copy of the CD of The Other in the mail today. Nice. On the back it says in big letters "Limited Collector's Edition of 2,000 Copies." I wonder if it will sell out.

I finished listening to the CD tonight. I prefer the alternate Main Title (track 19), without the annoying whistling at the beginning.

I had no trouble at all ripping the CD to my laptop (as .mp3 files).

 
 Posted:   Nov 2, 2024 - 10:11 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Listened to this again this morning. What a rewarding score it is! Just figured I'd put it back on the first page.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2024 - 10:27 PM   
 By:   kam   (Member)

Now sold out at Varese (US site)

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2024 - 11:59 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Good!

Message sent, give us more good stuff!


I took this on the road, for the third play today, in the beautiful fall foliage, and this subtle chamber work complimented the scenery perfect.

A gorgeous score with such unhinged discords worked in. A textbook piece of deep psychological character scoring, whilst being a beautiful piece of music on its own.

Insert every hate, diss, piss and negate of the current tropes of film scoring (Hi Thor! Defending every lazy current ideology 'our' art now drowns in, because you are the Defender of all NewThings....these things deserve defending, because they are so memorable!!)

IThe current trend of Every Score, is absolutely lazy garbage, dictated by staff who grew up with the worst Zimmer in their ears. Everytime you cats get excited about anything new....it's the same slashing string rhythm or Dminor boredom. Peppered with sad piano/synth tones or vowel chorus, or Duduk! Yah!

Cripes, go play:
TZThe Movie: Goldsmith
Sphinx: M J Lewis.
Final analysis: Fenton
Predator 2: Silvestri
Dances With Wolves: Barry
Maniac: ROB
Tenebrae: Simonetti, Morante, Pignatelli

Goldsmith's THE OTHER is a textbook "we should get back to....then again, there aren't films as bold as Mulligan's.....still, wish a film would sneak in, as crafty as Mulligan's, with an intelligent, chamber thematic beautiful score as Goldsmith's here....


I wish I could delete myself here, I only seem to rant & rave.

Sorry folks, ignore my rant, the state of things weighs very heavy on my heart, the art I still love more than anything, absolutely unworthy of my care anymore....

-Sean

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2024 - 7:37 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

This sold out before I had a chance to buy it, just like City Hall.

Why can't Varese give low quantity head's up like the other labels do?

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2024 - 7:45 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

In the past few years Varese has had (by my count) four limited Club Deluxe Editions which sold out within only a matter of months… I could be wrong but I think they were all limited to 2000 copies each:
Lionheart: The Deluxe Edition
Death Becomes Her: The Deluxe Edition
City Hall: The Deluxe Edition (they much later pressed an additional 500 copies due to popular demand, so this would supposedly be 2500 total now, and it’s currently available from their site)
The Other: The Deluxe Edition

Three of these four are Goldsmith expansions. I hope Varese learns from this and makes 2500 the new standard for Goldsmith Deluxe Editions rather than 2000.

Still, things are better now than they were 15-20 years ago when popular titles used to sell out within a DAY and little warning.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2024 - 7:55 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)



Still, things are better now than they were 15-20 years ago when popular titles used to sell out within a DAY and little warning.


Yeah, I remember those times, some titles were gone before you even had a chance to find out about them, especially when you were sleeping because of different time zones when the titles were announced.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2024 - 8:01 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Haven't they reported stuff as SOLD OUT before and it's merely Out Of Stock?

 
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