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 Posted:   Jan 24, 2022 - 9:04 AM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

I only share 8 out of 25.

Who are the 17 you think don't belong on the list, and who are the 17 you think are better than any of those?

Oh, and should #9, Ilayaraja, be Ilaiyaraaja (R. Gnanathesikan)? Wikipedia thinks so.


I'm not speaking on behalf of 'Night', but I nonetheless wish to share my perspective on this.

Taking a pause to assess/evaluate my own soundtrack collection, my favo(u)rite 100 composers have around (only) 40 Americans. 30 were from U.K. & Australia, 15 from Italy & 10 from France. The remaining 5% include Japanese, Greeks, Germans/Poles, etc.
I realize the 21st century witnesses a significant increase in albums by Spanish composers (as well as composers from other nations), but, since my focus is primarily upon pre-Y2K 20th century scores, these other nationalities do not reside within most of my data.

So ... reducing my Top 100 down to a Top 25, I wish to keep these above proportions and state that my Top 25 should contain 10 (and not more) Hollywood composers. 5 more would be a combo of, say, 3 Italian + 2 French, with around 7 Brits to add in. The remaining 3 could be a token Japanese (Takemitsu) and a token Greek (Theodorakis) leaving one slot left for a Polish or Dutch or German composer.

Now, ... look at the 25 names quoted by 'Night' above. Consider the 3 French guys: Legrand, Jarre, Delerue.
Seems to me that the authors are not truly considering French-language cinema and are instead citing 3 French composers who've written music for English-language movies.
[perhaps the 'greatest in cinema history' header should be tempered with a non-global descriptor such as 'greatest in English-language cinema history']
Italian-language cinema with music by Piccioni, Rustichelli, Trojavoli, etc. has been forfeit in favor of a handful of Leone/Morricone flicks which impacted Amercian pop culture just as Rota's Godfather also did.

As for Bob DiMucci's question: which 17 others should be on the list?
I think 'Night' shares my aesthetics with our preferences for composers who have written 12-tone concert works and/or incorporated advanced compositional techniques in their music for films.
(replace Philip Glass with Paul Glass, for example smile )

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2022 - 9:14 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

List Schmist!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2022 - 10:34 AM   
 By:   Night   (Member)

I think 'Night' shares my aesthetics with our preferences for composers who have written 12-tone concert works and/or incorporated advanced compositional techniques in their music for films.
(replace Philip Glass with Paul Glass, for example smile )


Yeah, to a large degree, or those who have distinguished themselves the most in other ways. I probably listen to tonal music the most, but I like composers who can write in a more modernistic way (it doesn't necessarily have to be dissonant/atonal, just more modern than the variation of Korngold type score that we so often hear in orchestral film music). For most part, that kind of Korngoldian writing is by no means my kind of taste in music. There are some exceptions though, but I would hate it to become the standard for film music.

Paul Glass is an underrated figure that I should be more familiar with. I haven't heard enough of his work to have an opinion. As for Philip Glass, I like some of his music, but I wouldn't put him among the top 25 film composers.

There are some film composers that could make it into the top 25 that i'm not familiar with so I will refrain from trying to draw up a top 25 list at the moment. I have more listening to do. But Rosenman and North would easily be on that list.

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2022 - 10:57 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

The principal goal of a list is to get people disagreeing with it, so they share it and get their friends to click on it too.

It's not really about the content, it's about getting clicks.

We live in a pay per click economy.

Just a thought for the day.

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2022 - 1:23 PM   
 By:   MMM   (Member)

This list seem to be taken down, so I used Google Cache and will re-post it here:

I only share 8 out of 25.



Boy, are YOU way off! I shared an entire 9!

 
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