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 Posted:   Sep 7, 2014 - 2:15 AM   
 By:   counterpoint   (Member)

I`ve always loved that film. I think it was the last acting role for Ronald Reagan and one of his very few bad guy roles. And the John Williams music, while not being groundbreaking, still was a solid 60s jazzy action score.
It would be a perfecet candidate for the Varese Club. IMO. Hopefully the master tapes still exist.

Here`s the end of the film:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5KgrC95gqU

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2014 - 3:12 AM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

The Criterion DVD has an isolated score + effects track (unfortunately it wasn't included in the recently released Blu-ray from Arrow).

So, i would think that the master tapes don't exist, because they would have used them for an isolated score without FX track.
(unless they found them lately)

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2014 - 3:23 AM   
 By:   jeff1   (Member)

It's a shame the producers felt the need to track in Mancini's Touch Of Evil for the main and end titles.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2014 - 3:57 AM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

Did Williams write main titles music and they substituted it, or he didn't write any at all?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2014 - 9:43 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

It's a shame the producers felt the need to track in Mancini's Touch Of Evil for the main and end titles.

That's show biz.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2014 - 1:25 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

This is a dark and brooding jazz score of which Williams did many in the 60s (especially in television). I have the film, but I've only seen it once and can't remember anything of the story for some reason, except the scene where Lee Marvin walks up from a car towards a house towards the end, and there's a shoot-out.

With the existence of the isolated score track, I would at the very least think an official soundtrack release is feasible. But I have no idea if any label has tried. Like all other unreleased Williams scores, this deserves to be out.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2014 - 6:34 PM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)


With the existence of the isolated score track, I would at the very least think an official soundtrack release is feasible. But I have no idea if any label has tried. Like all other unreleased Williams scores, this deserves to be out.


But as i've said it includes the FX too.
It's not an only music track.
So... it seems difficult.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2018 - 8:26 AM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

So, i just saw that Fred Steiner also wrote music in this:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058262/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast

Does anyone know if this information is concrete?
and if yes, what part/percentage of the music did he write?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2018 - 6:29 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

It's a shame the producers felt the need to track in Mancini's Touch Of Evil for the main and end titles.

Just do what I do: Hit the mute button and play the "Star Wars" theme. It fits the mood of the film nicely, and greatly improves the experience.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2018 - 11:56 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

Did Williams write main titles music and they substituted it, or he didn't write any at all?

The history of this film is rather interesting.

The film was originally a MADE FOR TV Movie for NBC, who felt it was too violent by the network and they rejected it

So the studio decided to release to theaters to recoup their costs.

Now the following is just guesswork..

After it was decided to make it a feature film, a new title sequence was commissioned and someone thought the music from TOUCH OF EVIL would work better then whatever Mr. Williams had done for the TV Movie tiles and since the studio owned it, it made it very easy to clear.

It's also very possible that there were some reshoots for the new version of the film and they pulled some cues by Fred Steiner they owned to cover this as well. This was fairly common practice at the time.

The song "Too Little Time", which was composed by Henry Mancini with lyrics by Don Raye as the love theme from The Glenn Miller Story, was sung in a new arrangement by Nancy Wilson for THE KILLERS.

The score to the film is sort of a Frankenstein-like creation, but there are some great cues by Mr. Williams such as the finale where pretty much everyone dies....

According to Director Don Siegel, it was the policy at Universal at the time to shoot the last scene of the film first. On that first day of filming, according to Siegel and Clu Gulager, Lee Marvin arrived late and had been drinking, but because he had no dialogue, the scenes were used as shot, despite the fact that when Lee Marvin shot down and falls, he was really drunk.

This is a great little "B" movie and if you haven't seen it, seek it out.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2019 - 11:46 AM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

This film was screened last weekend at the TCM Classic Film Festival, with Angie Dickinson in attendance. Her interview before the screening was a hoot. She said that Ronald Reagan hated doing the film, and did so only to get out his contract with Universal. He worried that playing a villain would be detrimental to his upcoming campaign to become Governor of California. Furthermore, he had problems with the scene when he slaps her. Several takes were necessary to get it right and he apologized profusely to her.

This movie is such a good time capsule of the '60s, and holds up much better when seen on the big screen. Johnny's score sounded great too!

 
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