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 Posted:   May 28, 2020 - 9:15 AM   
 By:   JamesSouthall   (Member)

House of Cards (1993):

http://www.movie-wave.net/house-of-cards/

 
 
 Posted:   May 28, 2020 - 11:01 AM   
 By:   dv95327   (Member)

House of Cards (1993):

http://www.movie-wave.net/house-of-cards/


Again, glad to get to see this obscure but lovely score get its due. I think its interesting for a number of reasons. The least of which stem that it was recorded in 1992. It seems to me that Horner knew this was a dud on arrival and used it to test ideas and play with music that interested him.

*The music that opens and closes the score is a traditional South American tune. Wish I could point you in the direction of it but it came up on a Pandora playlist once and I never got the title. I discovered my love of world music through Horner funny enough.

*The theme in this score that first pops up toward the end of "The Processional" is lifted directly from Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Listen for it in "The Meld" as Decker and Ilia/V'Ger merge.

*The Virtual Reality tracks set the groundwork for Sneakers, which was likely Horner's next recorded score.

*The end of the track "Prime Numbers" features a fully developed idea that would go on to become the primary theme in Once Upon a Forest. It never appears again in this score and has always seemed out of place.

*What is commonly referred to as the "forest material" from The Spitfire Grill that Horner liked to use (see: end of "Prime Numbers") is a lift from the end of Mahler's Resurrection Symphony (ravishing and well worth a listen--but Mahler ain't for you if you don't want to talk about Williams' lifting habit as well!)

 
 
 Posted:   May 28, 2020 - 1:52 PM   
 By:   iain k   (Member)

This is the Peruvian folk song El Cóndor Pasa of which there are infinite versions. It is common to hear elsewhere in the nothern Andes - Colombia, Ecuador, and Bolivia.

This is one of these instances where Horner's take is a little different - but the inspiration is clear.

I think this thread of interest from Horner would have started with Vibes (?), which was set in Ecuador. Was that the first time Horner worked with Tony Hinnigan? Would be interesting to know if Horner visited during filming or at some other point, or if exposure to the quena, panflutes, etc and the Andean folk songs was more through Hinnigan.

I think the quena was used also in Star Trek II and III for Spock, which is a few years earlier.

Anyway, James, thanks for writing about this lovely score.


*The music that opens and closes the score is a traditional South American tune. Wish I could point you in the direction of it but it came up on a Pandora playlist once and I never got the title. I discovered my love of world music through Horner funny enough.

 
 
 Posted:   May 29, 2020 - 5:41 AM   
 By:   JamesSouthall   (Member)


*The Virtual Reality tracks set the groundwork for Sneakers, which was likely Horner's next recorded score.


That's interesting. I've always considered Sneakers as the great gestation score for so many Horner ideas so it's fascinating that this was recorded first.

 
 
 Posted:   May 29, 2020 - 8:39 AM   
 By:   dv95327   (Member)

This is the Peruvian folk song El Cóndor Pasa of which there are infinite versions. It is common to hear elsewhere in the nothern Andes - Colombia, Ecuador, and Bolivia.

Ah yes thank you!

I think this thread of interest from Horner would have started with Vibes (?), which was set in Ecuador. Was that the first time Horner worked with Tony Hinnigan? Would be interesting to know if Horner visited during filming or at some other point, or if exposure to the quena, panflutes, etc and the Andean folk songs was more through Hinnigan.

The first score Horner worked on with Hinnigan was Willow. He hired Incantation (Hinnigan and Mike Taylor) after hearing them perform on Morricone's The Mission and they struck up a friendship thereafter. This is one of many reasons I consider Willow THE score that modernized James Horner and represents the transition from the 80's sound to what would be come the 90s sound.

I think the quena was used also in Star Trek II and III for Spock, which is a few years earlier.

That was an ondes martinet if I am not mistaken.


That's interesting. I've always considered Sneakers as the great gestation score for so many Horner ideas so it's fascinating that this was recorded first.


Its just an educated guess since HoC was recorded in early 1992 and Sneakers was released in September 1992. I believe HoC's liner notes say it was held back from release for a year.

 
 
 Posted:   May 29, 2020 - 9:15 AM   
 By:   JamesSouthall   (Member)


Its just an educated guess since HoC was recorded in early 1992 and Sneakers was released in September 1992. I believe HoC's liner notes say it was held back from release for a year.


They say two years but one seems more likely (it can't have been held with Horner's score for two years because he recorded that in April 1992 and the film was released in June 1993).

 
 
 Posted:   May 29, 2020 - 9:40 AM   
 By:   JamesSouthall   (Member)

Once Upon a Forest (1993):

http://www.movie-wave.net/once-upon-a-forest/

 
 
 Posted:   May 30, 2020 - 9:29 AM   
 By:   JamesSouthall   (Member)

The Mask of Zorro (1998):

http://www.movie-wave.net/the-mask-of-zorro/

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2020 - 9:27 AM   
 By:   JamesSouthall   (Member)

All the King's Men (2006):

http://www.movie-wave.net/all-the-kings-men/

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2020 - 8:47 AM   
 By:   JamesSouthall   (Member)

Today's review: Apocalypto (2006)

http://www.movie-wave.net/apocalypto/

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2020 - 8:13 AM   
 By:   JamesSouthall   (Member)

Thunderheart (1992):

http://www.movie-wave.net/thunderheart/

 
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