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 Posted:   Oct 2, 2000 - 5:28 AM   
 By:   Valere   (Member)

Mathias,if memory serves,you love this score.Why? a challenge for you to come and sign up!


 Posted:   Oct 2, 2000 - 6:09 AM   
 By:   samanthasmom   (Member)

I have had the Eiger Sanction for awhile. It is good, but sounds really dated at times. The Top of the World is very good. Slowly building. It really flows.
Training with George and George Set the Pace are excellent. Catchy. But let me get to the movie, it is BAD! You know you are in for a real bad movie time when Jack Cassidy is the best part of the movie.
Back to the music, The Theme from the Eiger Sanction, is jazzy, but dated, it seems that it sound like it belongs in John Williams Earthquake. A Real Bad Movie.
But any of you guys don't have this go find The Eiger Sanction.

NP: The Eiger Sanction ***

 Posted:   Oct 2, 2000 - 9:13 AM   
 By:   James Gelet   (Member)

I agree on "Training With George" and "George Sets The Pace". Those pieces are good stuff. But man am I tortured by the rest of that score.

 Posted:   Oct 3, 2000 - 2:20 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I love this score because it has a special place in my heart. And before you pull up the handkerchief, let me explain:

In the late 80's, I composed - with my limited musical faculties - a little, minor-moded tune on the piano. Imagine my surprise when I discovered - more than 5 years later - that the theme bore an uncanny resemblance to John Williams piano theme in THE EIGER SANCTION. I couldn't believe it. I had actually composed a John Williams tune, without knowing it! Not to ignite another Horner debate, but this definitely showed me that similar scores may be more the result of coincidence than deliberate plagiarism.

This is why SANCTION is special to me. The score in itself is only so-so, IMO.

 Posted:   Oct 3, 2000 - 4:21 AM   
 By:   Marian Schedenig   (Member)

I don't play it too often, but this score is wonderful!

NP: Sergei Prokofiev: Lieutenant Kizeh (Saint Louis Symphony Orchestra & Chorus, Leonard Slatkin)

 Posted:   Oct 3, 2000 - 6:40 AM   
 By:   samash6   (Member)

can anybody tell me the time signature of track 3 of 'The Eiger Sanction'?

This is far and away the coolest track of the score. Shocks a lot of people who can't believe that it's a John Williams piece. Take a second listen to this one, it will become one of your favorites.

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 Posted:   Oct 4, 2000 - 1:39 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Tricky... I have never seen the printed score, and the cue seems to make lots of use of syncopation. I would guess the cue "Fifty Miles of Desert" is in a regular 4/4 meter, but it is just a guess.

 Posted:   Oct 4, 2000 - 7:08 AM   
 By:   jonathan_little   (Member)

I've said it before, and I'll say it again...

Please do yourself a favor and do not watch the movie.

Also, do yourself another favor and pick up the great score.

Thank you.">

 Posted:   Oct 4, 2000 - 12:58 AM   
 By:   Marcelo Ferreyra   (Member)

Agree with You, Nicolai.
It looks a 4/4 meter.
THe 8th notes on the bottom, and the cymbal are definetly on 4/4.
Note the accent on the 8ths notes that
make a 4/4 rythm.
With the sincopations gives a beautiful
The last few bars with long notes
could be other meter, or fermatas.

 Posted:   Oct 5, 2000 - 6:42 AM   
 By:   Monterey Jack   (Member)

Anyone else notice that the "Fifty miles of desert" cue sounds like the obvious inspiration for the "Climbing Devil's Tower" cue in Close Encounters? Williams pulls a Horner?

 Posted:   Oct 6, 2000 - 1:03 AM   
 By:   Marian Schedenig   (Member)

Originally posted by Monterey Jack:
Anyone else notice that the "Fifty miles of desert" cue sounds like the obvious inspiration for the "Climbing Devil's Tower" cue in Close Encounters? Williams pulls a Horner?

The important word here is "inspiration"!

 Posted:   Oct 7, 2000 - 5:04 AM   
 By:   Valere   (Member)

What composer has not re-used stuff from something else?As I recall,2001,Alex North's rejected score,got used in DRAGONSLAYER. Who cares! As long as the music got done!

 Posted:   Oct 8, 2000 - 1:24 AM   
 By:   H. Rocco   (Member)

I was startled to hear foreshadowings of "The Little People Work" from A NEW HOPE in Williams' fluffy A GUIDE TO THE MARRIED MAN!

 Posted:   Oct 8, 2000 - 6:04 AM   
 By:   Marian Schedenig   (Member)

Haven't heard Married Man, but compare the Little People to Stravinsky's Rite of Spring!

NP: The Secret of N.I.M.H. (Jerry Goldsmith)

 Posted:   Oct 8, 2000 - 10:24 AM   
 By:   H. Rocco   (Member)

now Marian, that's just MEAN!

NP: "Symphonic Fantasia #1" (this is the best of the four renditions released so far; alas, the same conductor did not tackle the other two. Music by Akira Ifukube. Conducted by Kazuhiko Komatsu.)

 Posted:   Oct 7, 2000 - 11:39 PM   
 By:   Marian Schedenig   (Member)


NP: Anton Bruckner: Helgoland (Chicago Symphony Orchestra & Chorus, Daniel Barenboim)

 Posted:   Oct 10, 2000 - 7:19 AM   
 By:   Towner   (Member)

The Eiger Sanction is one of my favourite John Williams scores of the 70s. Some of it sure does sound dated, particularly "Fifty Miles of Desert." That could easily have come from his Earthquake score. But, "The Icy Ascent" is probably the best track on the CD. The Main Title does sound dated, but the main theme as arranged in "Ascent" is the way its meant to be heard, very dark and cold. The film version of the main title though is very different from the main title on the album. I would love to see an expanded release of this score and have that thrown in there. Furthermore, this is one of those scores that Williams himself seems to have disowned. I wish that he would arrange and record a suite of the themes for this film, instead of yet another recording of Star Wars or E.T.

As for the film itself... I love this movie. Yes its pretty bad, and has some really cheesy dialogue ("You better study your little ass off... oh, don't study it all off"). But once they hit the mountain, it really does get tense. And the moutaintop cinematography is quite beautiful at times. Have any of you read the novel by Trevanian? If not, do it. I especially recommend the book to anyone who has not seen the film. And its funny, because the film stays pretty faithful to the book, yet they are worlds apart. I guess I just don't see Clint Eastwood as an art connoisseur.
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 Posted:   Jun 7, 2001 - 12:27 AM   
 By:   OHMSS76   (Member)

Hi Loran,

This CD is OOP, but available from Screen Archives and Movie I believe for around $17...or someone here could make a cdr for you.

Its a nice score, and has the same contents as the MCA LP.

NP: After Dark,My Sweet(Jarre)

All the best,
Hope that helps

 Posted:   Jun 7, 2001 - 1:07 AM   
 By:   SjONGBIrD   (Member)

I retired the 'Mathias' handle - several moons ago...
And - yes - I absolutely LOVE Williams' THE EIGER SANCTION score! I don't mind the movie - Eastwood can direct. I'm assuming Williams scored that film due to contractual obligations to the studio (Universal) - he and Eastwood have never collaborated again - since! (actually, I don't believe Clint has ever made another film at/with Universal!)
I really dig the 'jazz-flavored' cues -- much as I do with the several 'jazz-tempered' cues (especially the fluglehorns!) in THE TOWERING INFERNO (made the year before!) Also of note - Williams also scored JAWS the same year (at Universal) as THE EIGER SANCTION!!
There's so much going on in the score to TES!
The strings, horns, electric piano(harpsicord), electric guitars...what's not to like?
As for sounding dated - well, that's one of those gray areas I never quite get! I take the route - 'the music is fine for the time' in which it was written (like The Beatles' Sgt. Peppers album!) -- and fits the screen action!
Just dig the electric (rockn' out) guitar on Track 5 (sorry - I only have the disc - the inlay is packed away - is it 'Fifty Miles Of Desert'?)
Anywhooo...this re-tread thread has inspired me to grab the damn score - it's playing now - and it's as exciting as the first time I laid my ears on it!
I also may have mentioned before -- I attended a 'modern dance company' performance back in '79 - using (mostly) the beautiful melodic cues from The Eiger Sanction -- terrific!! I agree with Towner and his take on this music...well, not the being 'dated' part!!">
NP:~> THE EIGER SANCTION - John Williams

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 Posted:   Jun 7, 2001 - 1:15 AM   
 By:   OHMSS76   (Member)

While Johnny W is on the table, I must ask this...why is everyone so down on EARTHQUAKE?

How can one say it's 'dated' and turn around and dig scores like THE TOWERING INFERNO and THE OMEGA MAN? Even the cue "Something for Rosa" with its muzaky french horn and electric piano tune is nicely melodic.

EQ has always been a fave of mine, and I wouldn't mind an expanded disc of this.
The main title has a great soaring horn and string theme, the bike jump scene is appropriatly funky with wah wah's and trumpets,romantic source cues with some great piano solo's, brittle ostinati for 'jeopardy' scenes, snare motif for the millitary-looter scenes, and most importantly the closing elegy(called "The City Sleeps" on the CD, and heard about 4 cues in.)
This piece is wonderfully nostalgic, and closes the film on such a sad note, with a solo clarinet eclipsing in a tense string motif.
I remember seeing this film for the first time on TNT years ago, and feeling very melancholy for the rest of the night.

I'd skip the speaker-killing sound efx at the end though. And to see the film, pick up the DVD, which was recently available for around $7 in certain stores! Widescreen all the way, though there are no extras, and the sound is regular stereo.

For those who think this one bites,huzzah. I hope someone will back me up on this one though(Hi Sjongbird!)

Whadda ya think?
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