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 Posted:   Jul 16, 2015 - 5:14 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I am a big Cronenberg fan but do not have all of his film scores.

I just picked up a CD of "The Dead Zone." I had forgotten that Howard Shore did not score this one.

A couple of questions:

Was this released on LP?

What were the circumstances under which Cronenberg worked with Kamen? He used Shore before and after this.

The only other Michael Kamen score I know is "Brazil." In looking at IMDB, it appears that he scored the kind of films I generally avoid, i.e. 80s/90s action films.

Are there any gems of his I should know about?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2015 - 5:30 PM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

Never on LP.
Di Laurentiis (producer) selected Kamen for Cronenberg. He liked rock-like musicians for his
films.
Lots of great Kamen from the 80's +...search some links here for recommendations...but
Robin Hood POT, Hudson Hawk, Baron Munchausen, Die Hard 1-2-3...Lethal Weapon 1-2-3-4..
Highlander...are pretty sweet. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2015 - 5:44 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Thanks, I will see what I can find.

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2015 - 5:46 PM   
 By:   McD   (Member)

Cronenberg says some nice things about Kamen, I think at the beginning of the History of Viokence commentary. At this point, Kamen's New Line Pictures jingle plays and DC mentions him. Kamen had only died about a year before at this point.

Kamen may have been forced on Cronenberg on this film, but boy did he come up with the goods.

Howard Shore is involved in an awful lot of one-off composer/director switches. Dead Zone, Ed Wood, Kong Kong...

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2015 - 9:42 AM   
 By:   films1   (Member)

Originally the producers wanted Michel Colombier if my memory serves me right .

The Dead Zone is a great score . I miss Kamen.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2015 - 10:37 AM   
 By:   Pedestrian Wolf   (Member)

Everyone's going to have their own personal favorites, but I think Mr. Holland's Opus, The Iron Giant, and Band of Brothers are generally considers his three signature works, and they're great places to start if you want something tuneful and aren't big on the '80s action scores that made him all his money (great though they all are). My personal favorites are Brazil, Baron Munchausen, and his Guitar Concerto, but I think these are all a little tricky to find (and Brazil only works as an album if you really like the film, as it's full of dialogue).

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2015 - 12:47 PM   
 By:   brofax   (Member)

The Dead Zone is my favourite Kamen score by a country mile helped greatly by the fact that the main theme is from one of my most favourite classical pieces, Sibelius Symphony No. 2, second movement and this sombre mood is maintained throughout the movie. Brilliant.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2015 - 12:49 PM   
 By:   Jon Lewis   (Member)

Onya, if you dig Dead Zone you should check out Sibelius' 2nd and 4th symphonies, which Kamen drew upon for this score (openly and avowedly iirc)

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2015 - 12:58 PM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

Never on LP.
Di Laurentiis (producer) selected Kamen for Cronenberg. He liked rock-like musicians for his
films.
Lots of great Kamen from the 80's...search some links here for recommendations...but
Robin Hood POT, Hudson Hawk, Baron Munchausen, Die Hard 1-2-3...Lethal Weapon 1-2-3-4..
Highlander...are pretty sweet. smile


Kevin pretty much summed up the story.

Cronenberg wanted to work with Shore, his regular composer (and friend). De Laurentis said no.
Kamen had three weeks to compose the score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2015 - 1:04 PM   
 By:   governor   (Member)


Are there any gems of his I should know about?


Mr Holland Opus, The Iron Giant, Don Juan de Marco, From the Earth to the Moon (episode 1), Three Musketeers, Lethal Weapon II.
His Guitar and Cello Concerti are also top works.

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2015 - 3:16 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

A good companion to The Dead Zone is the thriller Suspect from 1987. Recently re-released by Varese, still available.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2015 - 3:46 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

The Dead Zone is my favourite Kamen score by a country mile helped greatly by the fact that the main theme is from one of my most favourite classical pieces, Sibelius Symphony No. 2, second movement and this sombre mood is maintained throughout the movie. Brilliant.

It is my favorite as well (tied with Open Range), the way the score operates in the movie is so effective that it's one of those where I prefer to experience it on screen rather than on album. 'Sombre mood' is a good way of putting it, though it does have a sparkle of hope throughout with the love theme and the magnificent "School Days". Which reminds me I still need to get the Australian blu-ray of "Dead Zone" as I really want to watch the movie again. Everyone involved with this movie did a stellar job.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2015 - 5:38 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Onya, if you dig Dead Zone you should check out Sibelius' 2nd and 4th symphonies, which Kamen drew upon for this score (openly and avowedly iirc)

I thought that theme sounded familiar!

 
 Posted:   Jul 18, 2015 - 7:11 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Probably Mr. Kamen's finest work
the film, the score, it all came together to make a classic
brm

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 18, 2015 - 8:11 PM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

After years and years of reading comments on this board about how terrific this score is, I finally found a used copy of it years and years AGO... and bought it. I listened to it, and I have never listened to it again. I heard nothing in it that warranted repeat listenings... HOWEVER, once again here's yet another thread about how wonderful this score is, so I ask all of you.... WHAT AM I NOT HEARING? I mean, it HAS to be ME and NOT the score! It's so frustrating because I always wanted to like Kamen's music, but I've never been able to... well, the only thing that he did that I liked was that song from Munchausen where the guy in the background keeps going "UHHHH" in a weird gutteral way! big grin

 
 Posted:   Jul 18, 2015 - 9:06 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

After years and years of reading comments on this board about how terrific this score is, I finally found a used copy of it years and years AGO... and bought it. I listened to it, and I have never listened to it again. I heard nothing in it that warranted repeat listenings...[endquote ]

i guess you have to like the film. The cd evokes the film and thus raises its listenability . If you do not know the film , I can understand not liking it
bruce

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2015 - 7:27 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

Yes, the film is a dark, moody, sombre affair and the music marks this accordingly.
I agree that maybe a viewing of the film could unlock what you're missing with the music as a stand-alone listen.
But maybe you just don't like Kamen's music full-stop.
Certainly if the only bit you do like from Munchausen is the Torturers's Apprentice song...well, I'm thinking Kamen's not for you! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2015 - 12:57 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

FYI,

Here is a link to the issue of CINEFANTASIQUE that went into great detail about the making of THE DEAD ZONE and the issue of the cover is covered by the director in some detail.

http://www.amazon.com/CINEFANTASTIQUE-Vol-Dead-Zone-Videodrome/dp/B00II97UZS


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2015 - 1:49 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I loved the film and own the score but haven't played it in a decade or more. So I really don't remember anything about it. Time to import this guy into iTunes and get re-acquainted.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2020 - 10:41 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

Watched this film again last night.
Still a friggin masterpiece.
Score is perfect.
Don't like the CD sequencing. I had to rearrange it, into film order, when transferring it to my play list.
It sounded wrong any other way.

 
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