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 Posted:   Feb 16, 2016 - 5:19 PM   
 By:   Trekfan   (Member)

From EmpireOnline:

http://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/aliens-books-royal-albert-hall-date-royal-philharmonic-orchestra/

Nice idea for the 30th anniversary! cool


Aliens books a Royal Albert Hall date with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra
16 Feb 2016 15:46
Last updated: 16 Feb 2016 16:13



Shortly after ticket sales of the Royal Albert Hall’s orchestrally-accompanied screening of Jurassic Park went gangbusters, the austere old dome has announced that it’ll be swapping T-Rexs for slathering xenomorphs and playing host to another Empire favourite. Yes, James Cameron’s Aliens - and its James Horner score - will be celebrating its 30th birthday with the full Royal Philharmonic orchestra treatment.

The two shows are taking place in London on November 6, with tickets on sale on February 18. Judging by the response to the live Jurassic Park, which sold 10,000 tickets in a few hours, you’ll have to get in quick. There’ll be M577 Armored Personnel Carriers backed up on Kensington Gore that night.

“We’re delighted to reveal the other headline show for November’s film festival [features] more big blockbuster scores in the shape of James Cameron’s explosive Aliens," the Royal Albert Hall’s Lucy Noble said in a statement, "with James Horner’s incredible music brought front and centre by the Royal Philharmonic Concert Orchestra, conducted by Ludwig Wicki."

It's a fittingly grand venue to celebrate not just a classic sci-fi, but the work of the great James Horner, who died last year. His Aliens score was, of course, recorded by the London Symphony Orchestra rather than the Royal Philharmonic – you can’t have everything – and won him an Oscar nomination.

Head to the official site ( http://www.royalalberthall.com/ ) from 10am on February 18 for tickets, or you could try standing outside the Royal Albert Hall shouting “Punch it, Bishop!” until someone brings you some.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2016 - 5:09 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

This raises a couple of obvious questions:

1. Will this present Horner's score as originally conceived, or the post-Cameron edit hack job? I surely can't believe they would dare to do the latter.

2. If 10,000 tickets sold THAT quickly for Jurassic Park, how come soundtrack CD sales aren't generally better? Okay, I acknowledge that a lot of people will be there for the movie - or the experience - rather than the music itself. But 10,000 punters in one location versus barely 3000 copies sold globally of similar-scaled scores? Something's wrong, somewhere!

Promotion! Promotion! Promotion!

 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2016 - 5:45 AM   
 By:   SalaciousAckbar   (Member)

This is fantastic. I wish they would do events like these in the U.S. more. I would also imagine it will be the music as edited for the film. Otherwise, it wouldn't work when viewing the film.

Jurassic Park's score only sold 3,000? That seems awfully low.

 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2016 - 6:04 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

He wasn't talking about Jurassic Park specifically with the 3,000. Anyway, this would be something to see.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2016 - 8:29 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

I must say, I'm just not a fan of this whole 'orchestra live to film' thing.
For me, it's either a concert of film music (silent screen above/behind with images or stills is fine btw) or just watch the film.
But they seem quite popular so, have off with it! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2016 - 8:41 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

I agree with Kev. I'm not too keen on the live orchestra to film format. It's neither one thing or the other. I'd go for a concert of just the music but I'll pass on this.

 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2016 - 9:02 AM   
 By:   soundtrackmusic   (Member)

1. Will this present Horner's score as originally conceived, or the post-Cameron edit hack job? I surely can't believe they would dare to do the latter.

Since they're screening the movie with the score, I'll guess it must be the latter.

These movie-with-film-score screening are getting out of hand. Any day now they might stoop as low as screening a Hans Zimmer movie with live accompaniment.

 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2016 - 9:08 AM   
 By:   petek66   (Member)

I have mixed feelings about it.

On the one hand, I have thoroughly enjoyed the ones I attended. It is interesting to
see how music edits are done live. Like in Home Alone, the choir has to start singing
in the middle of a carol as Kevin approaches the church. Only half the choir sang because
he was still outside. Once inside the whole choir sang to boost the volume, then had to
stop abruptly mid-carol when he leaves. And its fun to see 1000 people stick around for the
end credit suites (except Star Trek '09, which for completely inexplicable reasons omitted them
from the program!)

But one a year works for me- I don't want to be paying $90 a pop to rewatch every movie
this way. Already this year I have BTTF, Raiders, and E.T. scheduled with Jurassic Park
coming behind those. And I would expect classical music fans are not happy seeing movies
invade the concert hall to such a large extent the way film adaptations took over Broadway.

Probably just a matter of time until they figure out how to premiere movies this way...
$17 to see Episode 8 or $125 to see it opening night with live score!

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2016 - 4:24 PM   
 By:   Trekfan   (Member)

Nice Twitter post with Horner full-score page examples:

https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/743099906303401988


 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2016 - 9:10 PM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)

First POTA live, now this. Everything awesome for live film music happens in London.

Here in San Francisco all we get live are the films that take place in SF, ad nauseum.

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2016 - 9:17 PM   
 By:   KevinSmith   (Member)

First POTA live, now this. Everything awesome for live film music happens in London.

Here in San Francisco all we get live are the films that take place in SF, ad nauseum.


In Canada, we don't get any of that stuff unless you're in Toronto.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2016 - 1:15 AM   
 By:   The Wanderer   (Member)

First POTA live, now this. Everything awesome for live film music happens in London.

Here in San Francisco all we get live are the films that take place in SF, ad nauseum.


In Canada, we don't get any of that stuff unless you're in Toronto.


Yup, if Regina did this it'd sell about 30 tickets. Will have to catch one of these things when I get back to Blighty.

 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2016 - 7:57 PM   
 By:   KevinSmith   (Member)

How was it?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 10, 2016 - 11:39 AM   
 By:   BrendonKelly   (Member)

How was it?

Really enjoyed it. Great to hear this music live. The orchestra did a fantastic job and the timing was spot on.

Two small gripes:

1. Would love to have heard the score as Horner envisaged it and without the tracked cues.
2. I was at the matinee performance and Cameron and Weaver only appeared in the evening. Still, I got to shake his hand and speak at Titanic. live!

Lovely see a huge photo on the big screen of Horner and a dedication to him.

A great concert!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 10, 2016 - 12:25 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

1. Would love to have heard the score as Horner envisaged it and without the tracked cues.

They performed the hacked up film version? That's what I feared might happen and why I didn't go. Had they performed the score as Horner intended it would have been a no-brainer.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 11, 2016 - 6:04 AM   
 By:   SilentWitness   (Member)

I only attended the matinee performance, too. Wow, I didn't know Cameron and Weaver would be there in the evening!
I would have preferred to hear the composer's version of the score as well, but I must admit that the hacked up film version of the score worked surprisingly well. Probably the arrangements and live performance helped masquerade what originally were just awkward audio edits. Also with the SFX and dialogue it wasn't even that obvious that several cues were used more than once.

I wonder if it has ever been discussed that some elements from the score still remain unreleased, even with Varèse's Deluxe Edition and the the two isolated scores on the Blu-ray. The concert reminded me of this again. There are some interesting discrepancies between what has been released and what is heard in the actual movie:

"Going After Newt":
The opening bars in the film (and concert) are played noticeably slower than on the soundtrack release. Horner's faster version was timed to start exactly on the cut to the outside, right after we see Bishop piloting the rescue ship. Either the recording was slowed down to start in the middle of the shot of Bishop or an alternate recording exists. From listening to it I suspect it was just slowed down, although it's surprising that it kept its original pitch, something that wasn't easily done in the 80s. On the Blu-ray both isolated music tracks conform to the slower film version. The second isolated track (the composer's intended score) should have started a little later and featured the album recording, but it doesn't.
Horner's complete album track actually matches the timing of the Director's Cut with the additional dialogue between Ripley and Hicks. For the film the track was edited and shorted and also faded out before the elevator scene (a fact that is also not duplicated on the isolated Blu-ray score).

"The Queen":
The film version remains unreleased. During the quiet confrontation (before Ripley's flamethrower attack) some music can be heard which is not taken from any of the other released tracks of Horner's score. An unreleased low bass pulse and some brass clusters are used which are not part of any previously released music. Some excerpts from "Face Huggers" are added on top. That actual film version was duplicated at the concert but not on the Blu-ray of the supposed isolated film version of the score. Here is where things get complicated: The booklet of Varèse's Deluxe Edition claims that the low pulse heard in the film is an electronic pulse created by Robert Allan Garret, not mentioning the brass clusters and the tracked music from "Face Huggers" at all. Yet the pulse sounds very much accoustic and was faithfully re-created by the bass section during the concert. Some further unreleased percussion elements can also be heard during that scene.
On the Blu-ray's isolated "composer's intended score" Robert Allan Garrett suddenly gets a composer credit for the electronic cue "The Queen" from the Varèse CD (only called "Egg Chamber" in the Blu-ray's credits). That same track is used in the background of the Blu-ray's supposed isolated film version of the score to approximate the actual film version, this time without giving any credit to Garrett at all. Yet this composition is not heard in the film, not even low in the background. The actual film version remains unreleased. The same goes for the scene right before, when Ripley finds Newt's tracker on the floor. The very same unreleased combination of bass pulse, brass cluster and percussion can be heard. Again, this is only approximated on the Blu-ray's fake isolated score using Varèse's "The Queen" in the background.

It's a mess. I wonder if we'll ever learn if Horner or Garrett actually composed Varèse's "The Queen" and if the yet unreleased film version will ever see the light of day. The Blu-ray with no less than two isolated score tracks should have been an excellent opportunity, but for whatever reason it wasn't taken. And it's not even that they didn't have access to the actual music stems. Harry Rabinowitz' film version of the landing sequence and the slower beginning of "Going After Newt" testify to that. Still, all the other tracks on the isolated score are just re-creations of the film edits using the Varèse recordings. And some aren't even that accurate. A pity about the missed opportunity.

The concert was great though. Kudos to the Ludwig Wicki and the orchestra for hitting every single mark. AMAZING!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2018 - 4:03 PM   
 By:   alexp   (Member)

My thanks to all those that attended the concert for sharing your experiences.

Can anyone tell me if the two tracked "Alien"(1979) cues, Sleepy Alien and Parker`s Death (used in the shots where Ripley and Newt make their escape from the queen in the elevator) were performed at that concert?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2018 - 10:38 PM   
 By:   BrendonKelly   (Member)

My thanks to all those that attended the concert for sharing your experiences.

Can anyone tell me if the two tracked "Alien"(1979) cues, Sleepy Alien and Parker`s Death (used in the shots where Ripley and Newt make their escape from the queen in the elevator) were performed at that concert?




Yes they were. As I said all the tracked music was performed.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2018 - 2:33 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

1. Will this present Horner's score as originally conceived, or the post-Cameron edit hack job? I surely can't believe they would dare to do the latter.

Since they're screening the movie with the score, I'll guess it must be the latter.

These movie-with-film-score screening are getting out of hand. Any day now they might stoop as low as screening a Hans Zimmer movie with live accompaniment.


Suppose it was something like "The China Syndrome"?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2018 - 7:43 PM   
 By:   alexp   (Member)

Was there an entr'acte music--a brief music cue--before the start of the second act of the concert? If so, what was that music?

 
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