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 Posted:   Feb 19, 2019 - 3:21 AM   
 By:   MRAUDIO   (Member)

I worked on this for Intrada and was sorry it didn't perform better. I had experience with the CBS collection at UCLA, where the master tapes are housed. In fact I had a set of digital photos that we (two librarian staff and I) took, at my request, of the contents of a hundred-plus boxes that had yet to be inventoried. Without those pictures, you cannot find everything that they have, as not everything is findable via their online aid. So that is how I came to be involved. I worked closely with Roger Feigelson, for whom this was a passion project lasting many years.

It was a ton of work to locate the tapes, and then more work to sort out UCLA's bureaucratic requirements to allow them to be taken out of the library to be digitized. It was also very expensive, because the library wanted a set of transfers done at their archival specs and with their nomenclature, which substantially increased the work for the transfer engineer, John Davis. But fortunately the sound quality of these stereo masters is excellent.

I seem to remember a bunch of other complications. CBS has gone off and on as far as allowing products to be made of The Twilight Zone franchise, depending on their plans at any particular time for a revival. I seem to remember this almost canceled the album but we argued our way into being "grandfathered" due to the project taking so long.

I remember pushing for a 3CD set because the way the masters were organized, we ended up with a lot of scores being transferred that were not part of Intrada's initial wish list. Many scores were paired in the recording process (putting them on the same master tapes) due to production needs. The Elliot Kaplan score to "The Last Defender of Camelot" comes to mind. Does anybody really want an Elliot Kaplan score? I don't know but I thought it was lovely and we already had it, so why not?

We definitely wanted to release some Morton Stevens scores but were told we could not by CBS, with no explanation. I think it's safe to say that the lawsuit between the Stevens family and CBS over the Hawaii Five-O theme and its copyright renewal registration was the reason why—they don't want to do anything that could make that situation worse.

The William Goldstein scores had been licensed by CBS to the composer for a digital release—but it was a nonexclusive deal so we were able to include them as well...they are very good, especially "Her Pilgrim Soul." The Goldstein digital release has a sample-rate error causing some of the tracks to play at the wrong speed; they are correct on the Intrada release.

The Basil scores are excellent, particularly "Monsters!" I thought. My favorite Safan score is "Wong's Lost and Found Emporium." But my favorite score in the collection is the J.A.C. Redford, "What Are Friends For?" That one is outstanding.

I'm glad we got the album released and thank Roger and Doug for including me and releasing the 3CD set. I really am sorry it didn't perform better, but I know the people who really dug it are happy, which is the most important thing.

Lukas


Yes, thanks for the info, Lukas.

I’m really hoping that once this lawsuit is
over, we will see “some” CBS Stevens material
released at some point - whatever it may be:-)

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2019 - 3:31 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Sadly I’m guessing this means that Intrada’s long-hoped-for Hawaii Five-O set will be a long time (or never) in coming. Even if they avoided the Stevens scores entirely (which though a shame sounds like it would be necessary) I would assume that even say a release of only the Bruce Broughton scores would be complicated, if he used the iconic Stevens theme in any cues...

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2019 - 3:57 AM   
 By:   MRAUDIO   (Member)

Sadly I’m guessing this means that Intrada’s long-hoped-for Hawaii Five-O set will be a long time (or never) in coming. Even if they avoided the Stevens scores entirely (which though a shame sounds like it would be necessary) I would assume that even say a release of only the Bruce Broughton scores would be complicated, if he used the iconic Stevens theme in any cues...

Yavar


Very true. That’s why I keep hoping for a release of WHEELS by Mort Stevens as this is a truly great, Emmy- Nominated score which is VERY FIVE-O sounding.

I would think this might be a possibility since it is a 1978 Universal TV Miniseries.

I would be happy to know if the elements are available...

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2019 - 8:04 AM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)

My favorite Safan score is "Wong's Lost and Found Emporium." But my favorite score in the collection is the J.A.C. Redford, "What Are Friends For?" That one is outstanding.

Lukas


Thanks for that Lukas. Sad to know we wouldn’t have heard Morton Stevens’s The Star no matter what.

Do you know if there were any issues with the above mentioned Wong’s Lost and Found Emporium? The sound quality of the set is mostly fantastic, but takes a definite dip with Wong. It’s by no means a disaster, but sounds like it came from a much inferior source to everything else. I can hear it right from the first notes, but it’s really noticeable when it goes low.


I don't remember any problems or differences with that one.

Lukas

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2019 - 1:17 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

I

It was a ton of work to locate the tapes, and then more work to sort out UCLA's bureaucratic requirements to allow them to be taken out of the library to be digitized. It was also very expensive, because the library wanted a set of transfers done at their archival specs and with their nomenclature, which substantially increased the work for the transfer engineer, John Davis. But fortunately the sound quality of these stereo masters is excellent.

Lukas


I have to second that comment.
EXCELLENT sound!!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2019 - 1:30 PM   
 By:   Roger Feigelson   (Member)

Thanks for that great story behind the set, Lukas! Do you recall why it was decided to leave off the Robert Folk scores? Their omission surprised me since Intrada has a history of championing the composer...

Yavar


Those had been slated for Volume 2. Which we won't be doing.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2019 - 2:04 PM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

The thing I love about sets like this and AMAZING STORIES & the FSM TV OMNIBUS collection is, as Sean alludes to above, they're like a little variety box of scores that can be shuffled through at any given time, offering different styles and vibes from the various composers, like a fantastic cheese board of movie/TV music.
I enjoy riffing through these box sets that offer different styles and moods at every turn.
This set was always gonna be mine, if only for Safan's Opening Day.

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2019 - 2:07 PM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)



Those had been slated for Volume 2. Which we won't be doing.


That is so #@$#!
Why didn't this sell well enough for a volume 2? People buy Die Hard and Superman and Poltergeist 2 and Rambo III over and over again... nothing against those scores, they are great scores, but really odd this did not even sell enough once to warrant a follow up.

In any case, I'm happy with the way volume 1 turned out. It is terrific. May not have sold well, but I cherish it.

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2019 - 2:40 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Those had been slated for Volume 2. Which we won't be doing.

Yeah, I gathered that much. So I'm guessing... you wanted to save them for prospective Volume 2 because of Folk's popularity with film score fans? Keep one of the "bigger names" aside in the hopes of Volume 2 selling better because of it? I was just surprised that Folk wasn't one of Intrada's priority inclusions, given your history of championing his music. (I'd still buy an expanded and remastered In the Army Now, should you ever feel inclined to produce it...)

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 3:41 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)



Those had been slated for Volume 2. Which we won't be doing.


That is so #@$#!
Why didn't this sell well enough for a volume 2? People buy Die Hard and Superman and Poltergeist 2 and Rambo III over and over again...t.


Those basterds!!!
those vicious heartless basterds!!!

 
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