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Reinhold Heil does some great 80s sound. I just listened to DEUTSCHLAND '83 again the other day and there are some great grooves in there.
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And coming out of left-field with a name nobody would even mention, is Justin!:
Jan Hammer
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And coming out of left-field with a name nobody would even mention, is Justin!:
Jan Hammer
If that happens, I'm going to swim from Norway to Jan Hammer's Red Gate studio in New York.
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I am going to assume that Jóhann Jóhannsson will score this but I haven't heard anything close to Blade Runner/anything electronic from him. I would be shocked if Vangelis returned for this since it both goes against his general "beliefs" and also since it was well over a decade ago since he worked on a big movie. And then of course his comments from a few years ago.
Paul Kevin Wiffen (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1509859/) who worked with Vangelis on Blade Runner, answered a question about the possible involvement of Vangelis in Blade Runner 2:
"I spoke to Ridley about this a few years back. He offered Blade Runner 2 to Vangelis but he turned it down claiming he was 'retired!' Maybe he'll come back out of retirement a second time now to do the soundtrack! I stand ready to program for him again!"
The original movie and score is one of my favorite films and scores of all time so of course i'm highly skepticial of both the film and score.
Jóhannsson seems knowledable of rather obscure synth scores from the past (most of them from the 1980's) though, so if that is any indication, he might very well come up with something of his own in similar vein even though I have never heard him do a synth score. I am also assuming that it will be a synth affair, it would be extremely odd if not.
What do people here think, do you agree what it is safe to assume that Jóhannsson will be doing it?
Why do you assume that Johannsson will score it? Has there been any talk of it?
I could see Disasterpeace, Matthew Margeson, Steve Moore, Ceiri Torjussen or Vincent Watts do it.
Or even Jonathan Elias, Eduard Artemyev or BT.
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First Breath:
If that happens, I'm going to swim from Norway to Jan Hammer's Red Gate studio in New York.
Okay, but only if you really, really, really promise.....
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Aug 2, 2016 - 1:56 AM
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Yeah, this is something we've been discussing for a while. I don't really like to participate in speculation games, but at this point, it's likely that Johannsson will do it, considering his track record with the director. And it's a fine choice too -- I can hear many seeds of a BLADE RUNNER sound in his PRISONERS and other material.
I see a lot of people mention other composers who've done '80's-type' scores here, but all of them are in a more 'pop' idiom, far removed from the textural landscapes of Vangelis. So I don't quite get the connection, I'm afraid.
Vangelis will not do it. Even if he hasn't retired fully, he seems totally retired from big films. He just seems to do small projects that engage him these days.
But if the studio wants a bigger name than Johannsson, then there are some alternatives too -- I can definitely see Zimmer doing this (he's tapped into similar territories for Ridley Scott before), Cliff Martinez, Michael Brook (OK, not a big name, but still), Trapanese/M83 etc. Heck, it would also be cool with some electronica/ambient artist being imported for this.
Time will show.
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Aug 2, 2016 - 2:20 AM
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Yes, I agree with Thor. I think Vangelis' score for Blade Runner has less in common with the 80s-inspired synthwave/retrowave movement than you might initially expect. It isn't so much a lean, analogue arpeggiator-driven sound as a future-nostalgia combination of acoustic instruments (particularly bells and other percussion) and CS-80 synth strings. The only arpeggiator-driven synth piece is the end title, which I've always felt stuck out a little (although I love it). The score's signature moments were defined by saxophone, piano and vocal solos.
With that in mind, an artist like Jóhannsson could be very well-placed to re-interpret this idea in an electro-acoustic setting of his or her own making. Someone like Rob (of the delightfully retro 'Maniac' and the more symphonic 'Horns'), who has shown flair in both areas, might be a fun choice, too.
Of course, Vangelis' music and Scott's visuals were remarkable because they bucked genre conventions for their era. Perhaps Villeneuve and his choice of composer will seek to do the same rather than recreate what came before. I'm excited to see the result whatever they decide to do!
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Why do you assume that Johannsson will score it? Has there been any talk of it?
He has done all of the director's biggest films so far (Prisoners, Sicario and the upcoming Arrival) and has also been nominated for the Oscar for best score two years in a row - he is for sure one of the hottest "new" names in film scoring right now, so to see him out of this would therefore be surprising.
Ok, I thought Ridley Scott would be doing it. Disappointment.
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Yeah, this is something we've been discussing for a while. I don't really like to participate in speculation games, but at this point, it's likely that Johannsson will do it, considering his track record with the director. And it's a fine choice too -- I can hear many seeds of a BLADE RUNNER sound in his PRISONERS and other material.
I see a lot of people mention other composers who've done '80's-type' scores here, but all of them are in a more 'pop' idiom, far removed from the textural landscapes of Vangelis. So I don't quite get the connection, I'm afraid.
Vangelis will not do it. Even if he hasn't retired fully, he seems totally retired from big films. He just seems to do small projects that engage him these days.
But if the studio wants a bigger name than Johannsson, then there are some alternatives too -- I can definitely see Zimmer doing this (he's tapped into similar territories for Ridley Scott before), Cliff Martinez, Michael Brook (OK, not a big name, but still), Trapanese/M83 etc. Heck, it would also be cool with some electronica/ambient artist being imported for this.
Time will show.
I mentioned Artemyev, he is as far removed from the 1980s and pop as possible. He is 78 years old but he still works, mostly for Nikita Mikhalkov.
I don't hope Zimmer will do it - he needs to slow down and let others do some work.
M83 is a good alternative, but he is in the 80s mode that you didn't want, at least on his non-film music.
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