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 Posted:   Sep 29, 2017 - 6:15 PM   
 By:   Filmmaker   (Member)

Is there anyone who uses the SoundtrackCollector.com site who can find a listing for this release? I’ve been trying for months to add this to my private collection tracker and damned if I can find a trace of it anywhere in their database. It’s jackin’ with my OCD, yo!

 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2019 - 8:20 PM   
 By:   Traveling Matt   (Member)

Was the story behind the newly-discovered elements on TOS ever revealed? I'd love to know where they came from.

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2019 - 12:44 AM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)

Was the story behind the newly-discovered elements on TOS ever revealed? I'd love to know where they came from.

I don't know if I told this story yet...but I don't see why not now:

They came from the estate of the guy who had originally gotten them (be it by hook or by crook, as it were) from Paramount Pictures. He had sold almost all of the TOS tapes to one party, who kept them safe for many years and gave them to Neil Norman and GNP Crescendo circa 1990 to use to make the GNP TOS CDs. But these few "newly discovered" tapes (of the library music sessions) had evidently been held back by the first guy (I suspect it was just an oversight) and were still in his possession for decades. After he died (a few years ago), there was an estate sale, and we saw these tapes on eBay and La-La Land bought them. We later gave them to CBS, of course, who kindly reimbursed he eBay cost. And that's the story!

Lukas

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2019 - 3:06 AM   
 By:   GreatGonzo   (Member)

Was the story behind the newly-discovered elements on TOS ever revealed? I'd love to know where they came from.

I don't know if I told this story yet...but I don't see why not now:

They came from the estate of the guy who had originally gotten them (be it by hook or by crook, as it were) from Paramount Pictures. He had sold almost all of the TOS tapes to one party, who kept them safe for many years and gave them to Neil Norman and GNP Crescendo circa 1990 to use to make the GNP TOS CDs. But these few "newly discovered" tapes (of the library music sessions) had evidently been held back by the first guy (I suspect it was just an oversight) and were still in his possession for decades. After he died (a few years ago), there was an estate sale, and we saw these tapes on eBay and La-La Land bought them. We later gave them to CBS, of course, who kindly reimbursed he eBay cost. And that's the story!

Lukas


Lukas,

I would love to hear more about the "saw these tapes on eBay" part ...
Do or did you regularly search for master tapes on eBay?
With repeated success? Other examples? Or how did this come about?

Mind blown.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2019 - 8:42 AM   
 By:   Filmmaker   (Member)

After he died (a few years ago), there was an estate sale, and we saw these tapes on eBay and La-La Land bought them. We later gave them to CBS, of course, who kindly reimbursed he eBay cost. And that's the story!

Lukas


Wowza! Truth truly is stranger than fiction. What are the odds?!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2019 - 9:16 AM   
 By:   Kevin Costigan   (Member)

Was the story behind the newly-discovered elements on TOS ever revealed? I'd love to know where they came from.

I don't know if I told this story yet...but I don't see why not now:

They came from the estate of the guy who had originally gotten them (be it by hook or by crook, as it were) from Paramount Pictures. He had sold almost all of the TOS tapes to one party, who kept them safe for many years and gave them to Neil Norman and GNP Crescendo circa 1990 to use to make the GNP TOS CDs. But these few "newly discovered" tapes (of the library music sessions) had evidently been held back by the first guy (I suspect it was just an oversight) and were still in his possession for decades. After he died (a few years ago), there was an estate sale, and we saw these tapes on eBay and La-La Land bought them. We later gave them to CBS, of course, who kindly reimbursed he eBay cost. And that's the story!

Lukas


Lukas,

I would love to hear more about the "saw these tapes on eBay" part ...
Do or did you regularly search for master tapes on eBay?
With repeated success? Other examples? Or how did this come about?

Mind blown.


How nice that CBS reimbursed y'all the Ebay costs. Was there a HUGE bidding war?

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2019 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)


I think somebody noticed them on eBay and let us know. That's never happened before, or since, for anything I've worked on. I don't remember a bidding war, luckily.

Lukas

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2019 - 9:57 AM   
 By:   Traveling Matt   (Member)

Wow, thanks to that somebody! CBS should have comped them a copy of this set in gratitude.

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2019 - 3:42 PM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

I just figured those were the tapes that accidentally slid under Lukas' front seat when he picked them up as Norman's house.

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2019 - 5:51 PM   
 By:   Hedji   (Member)

Just truly amazing.

What you good people have managed to do for Star Trek music is beyond comprehension. It's truly a miracle that we have what we have. Not to sound too saccharine, but you have brought so much joy to so many listeners. Thank you all.

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2019 - 8:37 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)

I just figured those were the tapes that accidentally slid under Lukas' front seat when he picked them up as Norman's house.

I once left the master tapes to Coma in my car as I ran into the supermarket. I almost never, ever did something so irresponsible, but I remember being famished or absolutely needing something and thinking, ah, I'll be quick. (Of course it was all fine.)

Lukas

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2019 - 9:31 PM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

Lukas,
Trying to settle a question that I raised in this or another thread. Did you guys find enough cues from the Ebay tapes to redo the entire TOS set? Or was everything you had put on the 50th anniversary edition? I mean is there yet another Star Trek the original series complete set waiting to be compiled with even better sound?

I say there’s a lot more of them than what was on the 50th anniversary set. Others say everything you had was put on the 50th.

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2019 - 9:35 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)

Lukas,
Trying to settle a question that I raised in this or another thread. Did you guys find enough cues from the Ebay tapes to redo the entire TOS set? Or was everything you had put on the 50th anniversary edition? I mean is there yet another Star Trek the original series complete set waiting to be compiled with even better sound?

I say there’s a lot more of them than what was on the 50th anniversary set. Others say everything you had was put on the 50th.


No, we only needed to release the first generation masters for the cues on the 50th Anniversary set. The vast majority of the TOS box set is already from the first generation masters—can't get any better than those!

Lukas

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2019 - 11:00 PM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

Just truly amazing.

What you good people have managed to do for Star Trek music is beyond comprehension. It's truly a miracle that we have what we have. Not to sound too saccharine, but you have brought so much joy to so many listeners. Thank you all.


No kidding. Can you believe the FSM Wrath of Khan is going to be TEN this summer? So... From 2009-2012 was all of the TOS movies and then six months later the Big Kahuna: The BOX (if I have my dates correct).

Many thanks to all involved!

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2019 - 12:17 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

I once left the master tapes to Coma in my car as I ran into the supermarket. I almost never, ever did something so irresponsible, but I remember being famished or absolutely needing something and thinking, ah, I'll be quick. (Of course it was all fine.)

Lukas



"Forgive me, Jerry, for I have sinned. It has been two bars of soap since my last confession."

Edit: in case that wasn't clear, Lukas once said that some of the CDs he produced were labors of love, but some others meant as little to him as making bars of soap. So my joke was a little too inside, I guess.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2019 - 7:51 AM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

Lukas,
Trying to settle a question that I raised in this or another thread. Did you guys find enough cues from the Ebay tapes to redo the entire TOS set? Or was everything you had put on the 50th anniversary edition? I mean is there yet another Star Trek the original series complete set waiting to be compiled with even better sound?

I say there’s a lot more of them than what was on the 50th anniversary set. Others say everything you had was put on the 50th.


No, we only needed to release the first generation masters for the cues on the 50th Anniversary set. The vast majority of the TOS box set is already from the first generation masters—can't get any better than those!

Lukas


Excellent. Thanks for answering this. I can now rest easy knowing complete. TOS and 50th amazing sets and work.

 
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