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 Posted:   Mar 15, 2003 - 8:04 AM   
 By:   Originalthinkr@aol.com   (Member)

It was announced today that Tug McGraw, 58, one of my three all-time favorite Mets, has brain cancer, with at least two tumors detected. He is undergoing evaluation to see if the tumors are operable and the cancer treatable.

Like everyone else, Tug was, and is, a flawed human being, as his son, Country-Western singer Tim McGraw, has made plain. Nevertheless, it doesn't affect, of course, the fact that Tug occupies a special place in the hearts of Mets fans, who were, and contin ue to be, inspired by his mantra of "You gotta" believe!" that seemed to propel the team into the 1973 World Series.

Actually, it's a motto for all seasons, and I hope that Mets fans -- and baseball fans everywhere -- will bombard Tug with his own words in order to prople him past the Murderers Row waiting to bat against him inside his own skull.

YA GOTTA BELIEVE, TUG!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2003 - 8:09 AM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

Let me be the first to respond to this..
Tug has ALWAYS been one of my favorite Mets..
I heard about this, and I wish him all the best..
He made growing up fun..Tug, Tom Terrific, Grote, Koosman, and all the Mets..
I wish him nothing but the best..

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2003 - 8:37 AM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

Nobodys smile, or laugh in that clubhouse, (or goofing on Ralph on Kiner's Korner) was as great as Tug Mc Graw's..(Seaver came real close!)He was the brash handsome hero every kid who loved not only the Mets, but baseball wanted to be like..When he rode in in that bullpen car, stepped out, handed over his warmup jacket, and put on and adjusted his cap, you knew you were in for a treat..And, Jane Jarvis (Man, she was great!) playing Tug's "theme" on the Shea organ everytime he kicked the dirt, and warmed up on the mound got everyone going..I still see him , riding in in that bullpen car, taking off that Met's warmup jacket, and adjusting that cap, and striding toward the mound to this day....Like it was yesterday...

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2003 - 2:14 PM   
 By:   CAT   (Member)

Hey, ANZ, nice to see you! Figured the topic of baseball would bring you back...especially one having to do with the METS!!! I, too, wish Tug all the best.
But ah, what's that I hear? Music? Yes!!! YANKEES...DA-DA-DA-DA-DA-DA-DA...YANKEES! wink
CAT

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2003 - 3:08 PM   
 By:   Batmusicfan   (Member)

Hey, ANZ, nice to see you! Figured the topic of baseball would bring you back...especially one having to do with the METS!!! I, too, wish Tug all the best.
But ah, what's that I hear? Music? Yes!!! YANKEES...DA-DA-DA-DA-DA-DA-DA...YANKEES! wink
CAT


They use the "BATMAN THEME" and replace Batman with "Yankees?" I have to get a recording of that! smile Hi Cat

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2003 - 3:29 PM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

Wrong tempo. The theme as the true fans know is:

"Y-A-N-K-E-E-S!
"Here come the Yan-kees! Let's get behind and cheer the, Yan-kees! They're gonna learn to fear the, Yan-kees! Everyone knows they play to win, cause, they're the New York Yan-kees."

Even the Met fans agree that we beat them on the song, since "Oh, the butcher and the baker and the people on the street, where do they go? To meet the Mets!" will never top, "We're gonna shout when you powder the ball! We're gonna scream (sound of drunken fan) Put it over the wall!"

In a serious vein, prayers and best to Tug McGraw and his family. The irony is that since I didn't start following baseball until 1976 he was always a Phillie to me and I never thought of him as having a New York connection.

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2003 - 3:43 PM   
 By:   CAT   (Member)



Even the Met fans agree that we beat them on the song, since "Oh, the butcher and the baker and the people on the street, where do they go? To meet the Mets!" will never top, "We're gonna shout when you powder the ball! We're gonna scream (sound of drunken fan) Put it over the wall!"


Why Eric, I am truly impressed! (and for once, in total agreement with you!) LOL!!! Tell me, now that you're way out in Illinois, are you still a Yankee fan? I believe you ARE!!!
CAT smile

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2003 - 3:45 PM   
 By:   CAT   (Member)



They use the "BATMAN THEME" and replace Batman with "Yankees?" I have to get a recording of that! smile Hi Cat


LOL, Bat! Yeah! Want me to send you a copy?
CAT

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2003 - 2:13 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

Team loyalty stays ingrained from birth and remains constant no matter where you happen to be residing. Chicago sports is an absolute wasteland compared to New York, and it's gotten so that the only sports sections I read are those of New York newspapers on-line (and do I miss listening to WFAN most of all!)

Just a few days ago, I was fortunate to get something I'd been wanting to find for years, a typical regular season telecast featuring the original Yankee broadcast triumvirate I grew up with of Phil Rizzuto, Frank Messer and Bill White. Messer was dumped from the telecasts the year I got my VCR and I never had the chance to tape games while they were still together. I've never heard a better trio of announcers than those three.

Frank passed away about this time last year, and he is still missed by those of us who remember and appreciate his work. The sad story of Tug McGraw's brain cancer is enough to remind us as we see these familiar faces and friends of our youth succumb to mortality, of how short life ultimately is.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2003 - 5:10 AM   
 By:   JesterPool   (Member)

One of my first baseball cards was of Tug. May God give him comfort.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2003 - 8:19 AM   
 By:   Originalthinkr@aol.com   (Member)

Thanks, Jester. Normally, I'm the first one to veer a thread off-topic, but I'd like to stay focussed on Tug with this one.

Screw the Yankees and everything about their stupid sissy league.

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2003 - 2:24 PM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

Classless remarks designed to start a flame fest is staying "focused"?

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2003 - 3:45 PM   
 By:   CAT   (Member)

Team loyalty stays ingrained from birth and remains constant no matter where you happen to be residing.

Couldn't agree more, Eric! My loyalty for the Yankees stems back from when I was just a "wee one," sitting at the feet of my dad and his friends. It would be a hot summer day, and they'd all have their beers (Rhinegold, Pabst Blue Ribbon, Schaefer or Ballentine), and they'd be huddled around the black and white, shouting, cheering and "coaching" their team. Such fond memories stick with you for a lifetime!

Just a few days ago, I was fortunate to get something I'd been wanting to find for years, a typical regular season telecast featuring the original Yankee broadcast triumvirate I grew up with of Phil Rizzuto, Frank Messer and Bill White. I've never heard a better trio of announcers than those three.

These three are classic, indeed, and again, provoke such fond memories of what I like to call a simpler time. Without all the B.S. that today's commentators feel they have to entertain us with, these three really knew how to call a game. How fortunate you are to have gotten your hands on this priceless piece of sport's history. Enjoy it!

Frank passed away about this time last year, and he is still missed by those of us who remember and appreciate his work. The sad story of Tug McGraw's brain cancer is enough to remind us as we see these familiar faces and friends of our youth succumb to mortality, of how short life ultimately is.


Time marches on, doesn't it? It seems that almost every day now some piece of my childhood is taken away from me. Seeing the faces of our past disappear is like you said...a reality check. And as much as I enjoy nostalgia, it can be quite somber and sobering. My prayers are with Tug and his family...and with all of us.
CAT

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2003 - 8:52 PM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

Another broadcasting voice of New York sports in my youth was also recently stilled when Jim Gordon, TV voice of the Rangers from 73-84 and radio voice of the Giants from 77-94 passed away. Jim's pairing with "The Big Whistle" Bill Chadwick on WOR did a lot to help me become a long-suffering Rangers fan (until that glorious day in 1994, the biggest non-baseball thrill of my life as a sports fan).

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2003 - 9:16 PM   
 By:   Originalthinkr@aol.com   (Member)

Yes, Gordon lived not far from me in Westchester County, NY.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2003 - 11:31 PM   
 By:   Ed Kattak   (Member)

Team loyalty stays ingrained from birth and remains constant no matter where you happen to be residing. Chicago sports is an absolute wasteland compared to New York, and it's gotten so that the only sports sections I read are those of New York newspapers on-line (and do I miss listening to WFAN most of all!)

Just a few days ago, I was fortunate to get something I'd been wanting to find for years, a typical regular season telecast featuring the original Yankee broadcast triumvirate I grew up with of Phil Rizzuto, Frank Messer and Bill White. Messer was dumped from the telecasts the year I got my VCR and I never had the chance to tape games while they were still together. I've never heard a better trio of announcers than those three.

Frank passed away about this time last year, and he is still missed by those of us who remember and appreciate his work. The sad story of Tug McGraw's brain cancer is enough to remind us as we see these familiar faces and friends of our youth succumb to mortality, of how short life ultimately is.


I still have that infamous Pine Tar game on VHS somewhere around here. Funny. I miss the triumverate.

But I also remember those Mets announcers.

Truly Gau Jus
Ed

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2003 - 11:36 PM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

I have the Pine Tar game too, as well as the 78 AL East playoff, but it was nice to just hear them in a relaxed ordinary game where I could concentrate on the byplay and not be distracted by the fact that it was a big event at the time.

There are tons of radio games of their work available in the trade market, but most often it just allows hearing one announcer three innings at a time since they were all rotating back then between TV and radio.

Lindsey Nelson, Ralph Kiner and Bob Murphy also did a fine job for the Mets, but seldom did they ever interact with each other on the air. There was an air of distance in the chemistry (especially with Nelson) whereas with Rizzuto-Messer-White these were three guys who liked each other, had no egos and just seemed to be having fun. And that was just the tonic a Yankee fan needed in terms of ability to enjoy the game during those tumultuous Billy-Reggie-George days.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2003 - 5:37 AM   
 By:   Originalthinkr@aol.com   (Member)

Tug's out of the hospital, reportedly in good spirits, and going home, which is good news.

The doctors seem to think they got 100% of the tumor out of his skull, but the lab analysis as to whether the mass was malignant or benign, which was due back today, hasn't been announced, amd that's is somewhat troubling.

 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2003 - 3:56 PM   
 By:   JJH   (Member)

Here's to Tug, one of the greats of the game, and probably the coolest name.

 
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