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 Posted:   Jul 30, 2019 - 9:41 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Link...

Jesus Christ, Jens.

 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2019 - 9:57 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Jens does have a...particularly special...relationship to that score, it's true. But I frankly think it's pretty brilliant myself (even if it wouldn't quite make my top 40) and I really can't fathom the disdain it gets from so many Goldsmith fans.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2019 - 10:39 AM   
 By:   Jens   (Member)

When Yavar was soliciting the rest of the Odyssey gang for interview questions, I made a point of sending him nothing but Link questions, from Carolco's involvement cutting down the film to the underlying philosophy behind the composition. A lot of them didn't make it in the finished episode because Mike turned out to not have been privy to everything that happened on that production, but there's still plenty of Link content to be had.

I would have never forgiven Yavar if he hadn't asked about Link.

 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2019 - 11:01 AM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

With all respect to my colleague Jason Drury (and I make sure to give him a shout-out or two in my interview), our style and content at the Goldsmith Odyssey is very different from the show he did, which was more of a radio program with interview bits interspersed...

Drury's interview was fine but yeah, it was more of a Q&A than a conversation and it came off more like two people reading a transcript. Looking forward to this one.

 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2019 - 12:46 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Yes I want to shout out both Jens *and* David for providing me with some excellent interview questions this time 'round. Usually the Goldsmith Odyssey team is content to just let me do my thing whenever I solicit them for questions in advance, but this time the two of them each contributed a handful of really excellent questions and I'm so grateful to them for doing so even though, as Jens noted, several ended up being cut from the final interview due to Mike not being privy to some info.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2019 - 6:26 AM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

Jens does have a...particularly special...relationship to that score, it's true. But I frankly think it's pretty brilliant myself (even if it wouldn't quite make my top 40) and I really can't fathom the disdain it gets from so many Goldsmith fans.

I guess earlier me was turned off by the drum machine and some of my own loopy expectations due to its poster art suggesting horror (which the film may well intend to be; I haven't seen the thing). Jens definitely gave that one a boost for me, contextualizing it as semi-Joe Dantean in its sound. That thought had not occurred to me Dude, and I gave it another whirl. It's a lot of fun! Whimsical, even.

If I shelved my scores by vibe, I'd have to move this one away from Magic and The Haunting, past Executive Decision, and nearer to the area where I'd be keeping Dennis the Menace and The First Great Train Robbery.

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2019 - 6:40 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Yeah, it's definitely a fun listen, despite my previous hatred of it.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2019 - 12:21 AM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

When will you post your thorough take on "The Invaders" from The Twilight Zone?
Thanks.

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2019 - 12:44 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

Great Job, Yavar. Interesting bit on Eric Tomlinson. Sad he had falling out with Goldsmith and Horner. William also didn't work with him again. Hope you can get Bruce Botnick in a 2 session show someday?

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2019 - 2:28 PM   
 By:   batman&robin   (Member)

Wow! Yavar, these interviews are getting better and better. Congrats on yet another stunning one!

Next stop should be: Bruce Botnick

P.S. Link is a great score

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2019 - 9:48 PM   
 By:   Paul MacLean   (Member)

Great Job, Yavar. Interesting bit on Eric Tomlinson. Sad he had falling out with Goldsmith and Horner. William also didn't work with him again.

Goldsmith went into detail in a Keyboard Magazine interview back in the mid-1980s about the difficulties at the Supergirl session. He did not names names, but he revealed he and "the mixer" had arguments about how best to record the synths. Goldsmith finally relented and agreed to let the mixer do it his way -- which resulted not only in the phasing, but a speaker catching fire as well.

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2019 - 6:24 PM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

Odyssey listeners, if this is up your alley, PayPal this man!

He posted this on Facebook last week:



I emailed him, and he replied to me today with how to order:



Here is information on the Jerry Goldsmith Limited Edition Giclee Print for sale.
The Giclee is limited to 50 copies 1/50, 2/50, etc..  It also includes a BPeak embossed
signature. 

Limited Edition Giclee Print
Limited to 50 copies 1/50, 2/50, etc..
Subject: Film Composer Jerry Goldsmith
Size: 18" x 14' with 1 1/2" White Border
Total Size: 19 1/2" x 15 1/2"
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Let others know of the Jerry Goldsmith Giclee Prints.  Only 50 are produced.  Once gone, they will not be available again.
Sincerely,
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...dangit! Well, you know what to do, if this interests you.

 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2019 - 11:57 PM   
 By:   Jens   (Member)

The Invaders is finally done, thanks to the tireless editing efforts of W. David.

I couldn't wait any longer. Had to release it right away.




Episode 21 - The Twilight Zone - The Invaders (1961)
http://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/1569241-episode-21-the-twilight-zone-the-invaders-1961

Duration
02:46:44
SHOW NOTES
Our journey through Jerry Goldsmith's contributions to The Twilight Zone (the TV series, anyway – give us a few* years and we'll get to the movie) concludes in epic fashion with a plus-sized installment featuring TWO special guests. This time, we're taking a look at the iconic episode "The Invaders," a nearly dialogue-free affair that proves an exceptional canvas for Goldsmith's suspenseful music. The first portion of our program features a conversation with Oscar-nominated composer David Newman and esteemed film music producer/liner note writer Jeff Bond, who discuss the virtues of this classic episode, David's memories of conducting Goldsmith's music for "The Invaders" live to picture, what makes Goldsmith such a remarkable composer, the musical storytelling techniques that set great composers apart, and much more. Afterwards, Jeff joins your humble hosts David, Yavar, and Clark for our usual track-by-track examination of the score. It's a long episode, yes, but both of our guests have an abundance of compelling insights that you won't want to miss. Enjoy!

*5-35 years, give or take

Cues from "The Invaders":
  • 00:02 - 6 - The Knife
  • 1:16:13 - 1 - The Old Woman
  • 1:30:28 - 2 - Space Ship
  • 1:34:32 - 3 - The Gadget
  • 1:37:56 - 4 - The Wound
  • 1:43:48 - 5 - The Hunter
  • 1:49:16 - 6 - The Knife
  • 1:53:42 - 7 - Counterattack (combined pts. 1 & 2)
  • 2:10:53 - 8 - The Victor
  • 2:47:47 - 1 - The Old Woman

    Other Goldsmith:
  • 2 Days in the Valley
  • Alien (David Newman conducting the American Youth Symphony)
  • The Artist Who Did Not Want to Paint (Prologue for The Agony and the Ecstasy)
  • Contract on Cherry Street
  • Escape from the Planet of the Apes
  • Gremlins
  • Gremlins 2: The New Batch
  • Gunsmoke - The Wake
  • Hollow Man
  • Logan’s Run
  • Lonely are the Brave
  • The Loner
  • Magic
  • Malice
  • The Mephisto Waltz
  • The Man From U.N.C.L.E. - "The Deadly Games Affair"
  • Omen III: The Final Conflict
  • A Patch of Blue
  • Patton
  • Planet of the Apes
  • Poltergeist
  • Rambo: First Blood Part II
  • The Sand Pebbles
  • The Satan Bug
  • The Secret of NIMH
  • Star Trek: The Motion Picture
  • The Swarm
  • Thriller - "The Poisoner"
  • Total Recall
  • The Twilight Zone - "The Big Tall Wish"
  • The Twilight Zone - "Dust"
  • Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea - "Jonah and the Whale"

    Other Non-Goldsmith:
  • Anastasia (David Newman)
  • Born Free (John Barry)
  • Colt 45 TV Theme Song (written by Mack David and Jerry Livingston, performed by Hal Hopper)
  • The Greatest Story Ever Told (Alfred Newman)
  • L’Histoire du Soldat (Igor Stravinsky)
  • Lost in Space (John Williams)
  • Mas que nada (Sergio Mendes & Brasil 66)
  • Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta (Béla Bartók)
  • Sorry Wrong Number (10-20-1957 radio performance)
  • The Towering Inferno (John Williams)

    Please send your correspondence to mail@goldsmithodyssey.com.

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     Posted:   Aug 20, 2019 - 7:54 AM   
     By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

    The Invaders is finally done, thanks to the tireless editing efforts of W. David.

    I couldn't wait any longer. Had to release it right away.





    Thank you very much!

     
     
     Posted:   Aug 20, 2019 - 10:49 AM   
     By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

    The Invaders is finally done, thanks to the tireless editing efforts of W. David.

    I couldn't wait any longer. Had to release it right away.


    Episode 21 - The Twilight Zone - The Invaders (1961)
    http://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/1569241-episode-21-the-twilight-zone-the-invaders-1961

    Duration
    02:46:44


    THE TZ TALKS START AT
    00:53:35

     
     Posted:   Aug 20, 2019 - 12:25 PM   
     By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

    Technically David Newman speaks about performing “The Invaders” live to picture, well before that timestamp. Folks, you’re not going to want to skip though the David Newman section, trust me!

    smile

    I’m super proud of this episode and can’t wait to hear what people here think.

    Yavar

     
     Posted:   Aug 20, 2019 - 1:26 PM   
     By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

    Technically David Newman speaks about performing “The Invaders” live to picture, well before that timestamp. Folks, you’re not going to want to skip though the David Newman section, trust me!

    Agreed. That may be the best bit, honestly.


    smile

    Also agreed.

     
     
     Posted:   Aug 22, 2019 - 4:43 AM   
     By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

    “The Invaders”
    Episode 2/10
    Score 9/10

    Very good show as usual! Keep it up! Looking forward to hearing more television scores from 1961, sooner the better.

    REVIEW
    It’s a crude and repetitive ‘survival’ segment that plays like a silent film in which music, sound effects and grunts punctuate the drama. It shows how a lonely farm woman reacts to the intrusion of science and here in the confrontation to a spaceship and an alien invasion: you witness a sociological viewpoint expressed with broad strokes and it tends to describe the woman as a wild mute cave female. I wonder if this takes place in the XIXth century which would make it as a western narrative so in that case it would be the companion piece to “Execution” in terms of human contrast. It’s considered as a fine segment by many people but it doesn’t work for me because the main drawback of the tale is the childish tin can toys that are supposed to be astronauts and ruins the realism of the situation. Picture if you will, the ludicrous situation of an old woman crushing kids toys! But on the second thoughts, I find it experimental and radical, especially the twist ending that reveals the origin of the spaceship: US Air Force, Space Probe N° 1. It still remains an over-rated segment that is laborious. Even writer Richard Matheson didn’t like how his script was shot.

    Find another season 2 drama (see “Eye of the Beholder”, “The Lateness of the Hour”) centered around a woman fearing the unknown and the first alien contact entry but from a reversed perspective. It’s literally a one-woman show and a horror fable. It’s the second script by Richard Matheson after “Nick of Time” during season 2. The high point is the tense strings/piano/bells-filled score a la Hermann’s Psycho by Jerry Goldsmith that can be linked to his corpus on the horror anthology Thriller (1960-1962). The score was so good that it was tracked on The Fugitive to a greater effect. The alien spaceship is recycled from Forbidden Planet: see the season 1 “Third from the Sun” (also written by Richard Matheson) and “The Monsters are Due on Maple Street” and in both we witness again a civilisation contrast.

     
     
     Posted:   Aug 30, 2019 - 3:35 AM   
     By:   JSDouglas   (Member)

    I've been listening to all your podcasts including your latest (in which you've outdone yourselves). I just wanted to comment on some of the TWILIGHT ZONE scores.

    DUST, with its repeating phrases, seems the most Herrmannesque of Jerry's work. "March to the Gallows" always seemed to me to be referencing the Dies Irae - it doesn't quote it entirely, but seems to "flirt" with it a bit.

    I've always enjoyed BACK THERE and I guess it hasn't aged well in it's time travel twists. Based on everyone's annoyance with the episode (as opposed to the score), I guess you'd better steer clear of THE TIME TUNNEL which more-or-less runs with the same plotline in episode after episode! Goldsmith's ostinato writing in this episode seems to link it with similar ostinatos in THE INVADERS.

    Speaking of THE INVADERS, I'd like to point out that of all of Jerry's TWILIGHT ZONE's (including the movie), it is the only one that can really be called science fiction and thus represents Jerry's first foray into this genre (the other ZONE's involve fantastical events unrelated true science fiction - magic realism, if you will). The beginning of "Counterattack" was used in the low rent JAWS wannabe ALLIGATOR for a scene of the baby 'gator being flushed down a toilet! Excellent flushing music?

    You guys are collectively doing an excellent job on these podcasts and I have to admit I sorta miss the infectious giggling of Yens in your newer shows - however, I still think the shows are getting better and better.

     
     Posted:   Aug 30, 2019 - 3:56 AM   
     By:   CK   (Member)

    the infectious giggling of Yens

    You haven't really experienced that unless you've been sitting in a car for over 12 hours with Jens (and four other film music nuts) going from MN to OH for a John Williams concert and with him being in sole charge of the car's music player... wink

     
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