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 Posted:   Nov 19, 2020 - 7:38 PM   
 By:   Jens   (Member)

The regular episodes of The Goldsmith Odyssey continue in just 22 minutes, when we release my favorite episode of the show's run so far. I wish Carlos Rafael Rivera could be a regular host.

 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2020 - 9:03 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

And it’s live!

http://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/6464008-episode-28-rawhide-incident-in-the-middle-of-nowhere-1961

Really proud of this one, and I know some of you have been waiting a while for us to get to this excellent TV western score. smile

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2020 - 1:46 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

A three-hour episode?!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2020 - 1:56 AM   
 By:   George Flaxman   (Member)

And it’s live!

http://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/6464008-episode-28-rawhide-incident-in-the-middle-of-nowhere-1961

Really proud of this one, and I know some of you have been waiting a while for us to get to this excellent TV western score. smile

Yavar


I'll try and squeeze this one in before the FSM chat tomorrow.

This is just in time for my birthday, which is also tomorrow. 1952 in case you are wondering. So that makes 68.

https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=141893&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=1&r=655#bottom

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2020 - 12:37 PM   
 By:   (Member)   (Member)

And it’s live!

http://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/6464008-episode-28-rawhide-incident-in-the-middle-of-nowhere-1961

Really proud of this one, and I know some of you have been waiting a while for us to get to this excellent TV western score. smile

Yavar




Thanks for the heads-up! I'm on my way to discover that particular show.
I have waited for so long. At last, it's out.

 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2020 - 3:06 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

A three-hour episode?!

Yup! Our podcasts on the Thriller scores "Well of Doom" and "Late Date" were almost three hours, so this shouldn't be too surprising since we have a fourth member this time (Carlos Rafael Rivera)... plus the score turned out to be considerably more complex than it seemed at first listen.

Full disclosure: this was done in two parts recorded almost a week apart and later combined together. When the interview portion of our original recording ran 4x longer than we planned (because The Queen's Gambit is so great and Carlos is so delightful and insightful), we decided to stop recording that night before getting to the cue-by-cue discussion. Then we came back for a 1.5 hour session later to do that. There may be a *few* redundancies as a result, since we had the second conversation several days after the first, but they are minimal. It's pretty much 3 hours of great content -- enjoy it in two sittings if that helps! smile

Yavar

P.S. Happy Birthday George and Happy Un-Birthday, (Member)! Can't wait to hear your thoughts on the episode.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2020 - 9:03 AM   
 By:   (Member)   (Member)



I enjoy this dense and solid show thoroughly and I am pleased to learn the Russell Garcia link to the music of Rawhide and, also, all the recurring series themes that Goldsmith adapts and re-orchestrates in a subtle way: in short, the variations. I like the reference to the trumpet statement and the many cross references. That music score is, off course, a template for Rio Conchos and the hosts explain it. The first hour of the show is truely exciting. I really like that particular episode and that particular season: the best one in my book. Above all, the real treat is the reminder of the CBS sound and, by extension, it makes me think of the previous shows about Gunsmoke and the CBS library.

Anyway, there are so many details to notice, so many things to comment. You did a marvelous job on dissecting that special score. “Head’ Em Up! Move’ Em Out!”

Episode: 8.
Score: 9.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2020 - 5:13 AM   
 By:   George Flaxman   (Member)

Well, 3 hours to cover a 40 minute show. But it was a very catchy score for Jerry's only episode.

Mind you, I cattle drive being covered in a 2 and a half season run... I'd say being shot would almost be a welcome release.

Well done everyone.

 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2020 - 11:25 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Glad you enjoyed the podcast episode guys!
A couple corrections...

Well, 3 hours to cover a 40 minute show.

Not entirely accurate. The episode runs almost 52 minutes without commercials; the number of commercials on hourlong programs have increased a great deal since then which is why current hourlong TV is closer to 40 minutes sans commercials. Also we are covering the show as well as the music, and the first 20 minutes or so of this podcast is discussing the larger series itself as well as the two recurring themes (by Dmitri Tiomkin and Russell Garcia) which far predate Jerry Goldsmith working on the show.

But it was a very catchy score for Jerry's only episode.

One thing I regret failing to mention or discuss in this podcast (but it would have made it even longer) is that there is in fact quite a lot of Goldsmith music in the rest of the show -- I think even the pilot episode uses a CBS Music Library cue we covered in Part 2 of our CBS Music Library Spectacular episode, and there are a lot of these "wild" suspense and action cues scattered in other random episodes with uncredited library scores. We've also received mail from some listeners over the past couple of years telling us about cues from Goldsmith's Gunsmoke episodes (especially his first, "Doc Judge") being tracked into various Rawhide episodes. So one way or another through the CBS Music Library, Jerry is present in other episodes. This is just the only one for which he wrote new original music.


I enjoy this dense and solid show thoroughly and I am pleased to learn the Russell Garcia link to the music of Rawhide and, also, all the recurring series themes that Goldsmith adapts and re-orchestrates in a subtle way: in short, the variations.


There are only two recurring series themes to my knowledge (the Tiomkin used over the Main and End Titles and the Garcia theme used most often for the opening narration and sometimes through the regular underscore, whether tracked-in library cue variations or in original work by composers like Leith Stevens or Jerry Goldsmith). Jerry Goldsmith *only* adapted the Russell Garcia theme for the opening cue of his score (and we don't even have hard confirmation of that); not the other recurring series theme. The two Tiomkin score cue adaptations we sampled in our show were not by Goldsmith and I'm not certain who did them to be honest. The intimate harmonica (I think?) one was from the pilot episode of the show, and the orchestral cue adaptation of the theme I found while jumping around in a random season 7 episode.

Yavar

 
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