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 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 11:51 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

the Grand Daddy of the "Disaster" film? And George Duning's score the great forerunner of those to come?

Quite possibly. I always loved this big wonderful sweeping score by Maestro Dunning. Remember getting the great LP with that beautiful cover art at my local Tower Records back in the day. The Love Theme always grabbed me and oh those lush orchestrations by Arthur Morton! It was like a great Goldsmith score, but by Duning.

I really love this score!

Please share your thoughts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cf4OQnIrv4


But couldn't they move the ^George Duning banner just slightly to the right, not to block Camille's face? I mean they had the room to the left of Spencer Tracy's mug. That stuff is always weird to me.

So, what's the deal with always slightly blocking Camille's face on all this artwork? Is it artistic? Did they want all our focus on Sinatra and Tracy? So weird. Oh, okay she's standing behind and supporting her man. No need to see her full frontal face I guess.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 12:13 PM   
 By:   hyperdanny   (Member)

I wholeheartedly share your opinions and enthusiasm about this overlooked score , and the movie, which is not half bad....but given all that, I am really grateful that they didn't put some huge DuNNing banner anywhere!
You even wrote it three times---

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 12:17 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

First of all, if you love it do try and get the composer's name right smile It's George Duning. For me, he is one of the all-time film scoring masters, and the fact that the CDs that FSM did were such poor sellers makes me want to vomit on the ground. I honest to God don't know what's wrong with people when they pass up Duning's stuff. Happily, I've released some Duning, which is always a treat for us and I would do ANY Duning score that came my way.

This particular score was my discovery of Duning, in terms of actually identifying composer's name with the music. I loved it, wore out several copies of the excellent stereo Colpix CD and was thrilled when Lukas issued it. Just as thrilling was the FSM issue of Toys in the Attic, another Duning score I absolutely love. His musical language just "got" to me, and then as I discovered all his incredible 50s scores like 3:10 to Yuma and Cowboy and Jubal, and especially Picnic, Full of Life, and all those great Columbia scores - there wasn't a bum score in the bunch.

His comedy scoring was great, too - Bell, Book, and Candle being the best of that big bunch, but I also love Any Wednesday and our release Dear Brigitte and Who's Got the Action.

But one of the great Kritzerland treats was getting to do The World of Suzie Wong, one of his greats. And if you don't have that one, well, I don't know what to tell you but you're really missing out, folks, really missing out. And if you don't have every title mentioned here that's available you're also missing out. Oh, and his Star Trek scores, for me, are the best of that series, especially Is There in Truth No Beauty. But I listen to that one and The Empath repeatedly.

And in the irony department, I did several episodes of The Partridge Family, the second of which is one of the most popular shows of that series - I have one scene that's sensitive and the first time I saw it when it aired I loved the way it was scored - and it was Duning.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 12:18 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

I wholeheartedly share the enthusiasm about this overlooked score , and the movie, which is not half bad....but given all that, I am really grateful that they didn't put some huge DuNNing banner!
You even wrote it three times!!!


Thanks hd and Bruce, I've amended the extra "N"s.

His STAR TREK "Metamorphosis" score was always one of my faves. So touching and beautiful.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 12:21 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

I didn't put Suzie Wong on the sale list, as we have very limited stock, but if anyone wants to act quickly, I'll do 9.00 for as many as remain. And Who's Got the Action is on the list, too.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 12:37 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I'm not familiar with the film (I think I've heard the title in passing once or twice), but I've always considered THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE the first proper 'distaster movie', the way we think about the genre today.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 12:42 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

I didn't put Suzie Wong on the sale list, as we have very limited stock, but if anyone wants to act quickly, I'll do 9.00 for as many as remain. And Who's Got the Action is on the list, too.

Just ordered and payed at paypal Bruce for SUZIE WONG! Awesome. Look so forward to my orders of PANIC IN NEEDLE PARK, DRY WHITE SEASON and now SUZIE WONG. Bruce you are the best!

Thanks,

Zob

I mean, Zoob. Having trouble with double letters today!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 12:44 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Could FATE IS THE HUNTER be considered a "Disaster" film?

Kind of the same feeling of Duning's DEVIL AT 4. Great voices/choir. 2 great scores by to Awesome composers!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxQjtUpkLYo

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 12:46 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Could FATE IS THE HUNTER be considered a "Disaster" film?

A precursor, perhaps?

AIRPORT would obviously be a contender too, but I'm thinking more about the 'modern' disaster movie. I think POSEIDON is closer in that regard.

IMO, it's not enough that a film depicts a disaster; it has also to do with narrative structure and certain crucial ingredients.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 12:54 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Some slightly scratchy "Stu" doing the DEVIL AT 4 anyone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQUeLN88ycI

 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 2:46 PM   
 By:   mgh   (Member)

The High and the Mighty came before Airport.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 3:43 PM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

I believe the intrusive banner was a last-minute solution to a licensing problem. Sinatra was under contract to another record label, and Colpix was unwilling or unable to license the right to use his image in promotional material. (For that is what "soundtrack" albums were considered by the movie companies.)

The score has some good things, but the quasi-Gregorian theme for the main character is almost entirely missing from the album!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 4:14 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Okay, the album thing with the banner was all about SINATRA.

Same thing they did on CAST A GIANT SHADOW Soundtrack and with Dean Martin on BANDOLERO. Their images could not appear on those albums, but they do on the posters.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 4:28 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

the Grand Daddy of the "Disaster" film? And George Duning's score the great forerunner of those to come?

Quite possibly. I always loved this big wonderful sweeping score by Maestro Dunning. Remember getting the great LP with that beautiful cover art at my local Tower Records back in the day. The Love Theme always grabbed me and oh those lush orchestrations by Arthur Morton! It was like a great Goldsmith score, but by Duning.

I really love this score!

Please share your thoughts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cf4OQnIrv4


But couldn't they move the ^George Duning banner just slightly to the right, not to block Camille's face? I mean they had the room to the left of Spencer Tracy's mug. That stuff is always weird to me.

So, what's the deal with always slightly blocking Camille's face on all this artwork? Is it artistic? Did they want all our focus on Sinatra and Tracy? So weird. Oh, okay she's standing behind and supporting her man. No need to see her full frontal face I guess.



You might also notice Frank Sinatra's name isn't on the cover (because he was under contract to Capitol Records at the time). Though Morris Stoloff didn't conduct the score, Sinatra would hire him as his new label Reprise as music director the following year after this feature film was released.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 4:29 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

Okay, the album thing with the banner was all about SINATRA.

Same thing they did on CAST A GIANT SHADOW Soundtrack and with Dean Martin on BANDOLERO. Their images could not appear on those albums, but they do on the posters.


However, Sinatra IS on one of the capsule descriptions of the cast on the back cover (along with his photo).

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 4:31 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

Sadly, most of the scoring masters of Duning's work are gone (though he was able to get the conductor's books and the sheet music when he was told by Columbia that they were cleaning out their music library).

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 4:48 PM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

Great score & great album, I still play my FSM disc from time to time. I really enjoy the film as well, there's a lovely HD transfer that plays on TV from time to time (just checked, it is on my planner, I might watch it tomorrow)...& I think the effects hold up really well, the earthquake & lava.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 5:43 PM   
 By:   hyperdanny   (Member)

I'm not familiar with the film (I think I've heard the title in passing once or twice), but I've always considered THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE the first proper 'distaster movie', the way we think about the genre today.

Actually, there was a very gripping and very well done British movie from 1960 (!) called The Last Voyage, which is basically the same story of the Poseidon minus the capsizing part.
The main star were Robert Stack and Dorothy Malone, and it had a fabulous captain in George Sanders.
It was very realistic because they used a real, about-to-be-scrapped luxury liner for most scenes , including some of the sinking (I remember an incredible scene in the main dining room).
I consider this a legitimate ancestor of the "modern" disaster movie because, just like them, it had more of an ensemble cast in the shadow of an impending doom, whereas Devil at 4 o' clock had a more traditional casting structure , with one or two main stars, like many "movies with a disaster" before ( "San Francisco" in the 30's, for one)

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 7:35 PM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

Okay, the album thing with the banner was all about SINATRA.

Same thing they did on CAST A GIANT SHADOW Soundtrack and with Dean Martin on BANDOLERO. Their images could not appear on those albums, but they do on the posters.


However, Sinatra IS on one of the capsule descriptions of the cast on the back cover (along with his photo).


There is a distinction between book or album covers, which are considered promotional material, and ordinary editorial copy in books or descriptive notes. The former call for proper permission and licensing; the latter may be considered fair use. Common examples include the terms "Academy Award" and "Oscar." These are trademarks, which is why you will always see the trademark symbol when they are used in advertising copy. Some people insert that symbol in their review or descriptive copy, but that is actually unnecessary.

 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 11:34 PM   
 By:   raferjanders   (Member)

A sublime score, the nuances of which I've recently come to fully appreciate. That sweeping theme is a mournful masterpiece - the choral treatment in the Main Title hooks you then it comes to the fore in La Fleur, and those low end piano runs in Lava Trap - wow. I made my own cover as that banner ruined the artwork.

 
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