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 Posted:   Mar 20, 2018 - 2:13 PM   
 By:   jlj93byu   (Member)

Came across "Thirteen Days" yesterday. Loved the film and score when it came out, but somehow never got around to buying the score until recently. It got me thinking, what has Trevor Jones done recently? I saw he's only done a few films in the last 10 years, and from what I saw here he hasn't even been mentioned in any threads for 3 years.

He has some great themes to his credit, and a great energy to some of his better work. Anyone know why the significant decline in output recently? I hope he is doing well health-wise, as he's only 68. Perhaps just a lack of interested directors/producers in his style? Perhaps he himself just feels a little burned out with the industry and its shifts in popular styles. Just curious.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2018 - 3:38 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I don't know if he is still active in film scoring these days, but he looked fit and healthy when I saw him last July in Malaga (MOSMA).
He even took over conducting duties for the last couple of pieces of his (Notting Hill & Dark City).
I think he's got too much talent to make it in today's film composing climate.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2018 - 3:46 PM   
 By:   GustavoJoseph   (Member)

He looks very healthy in this 2015 spanish advertising for a drink, that had the good taste to cast him as the main character!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=254&v=YIfiQzZZ2BI

 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2018 - 3:49 PM   
 By:   davefg   (Member)

I don't know if he is still active in film scoring these days, but he looked fit and healthy when I saw him last July in Malaga (MOSMA).
He even took over conducting duties for the last couple of pieces of his (Notting Hill & Dark City).
I think he's got too much talent to make it in today's film composing climate.


Agreed. Another wasted talent. Compare his super hero score The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen to BvS / WW / DP / MOS. From the last entry into his website it seems that he has gone into academia: http://www.trevorjonesfilmmusic.com/about.html I don't think he will be returning to film scoring.

 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2018 - 7:36 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

My personal favourite is the score to Merlin.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2018 - 2:06 AM   
 By:   Kirkinson   (Member)

He lives mostly in Cape Town now and is involved with various education projects there, in addition to lecturing and teaching engagements. If you google his name and "South Africa" you can find a number of articles from the past several years, mostly from South African sources, that give you a sense of what he's been up to. Like this one:

https://musicexchangesa.wordpress.com/2013/07/26/trevor-jones-from-district-six-to-hollywood-destinyman-july-august-2013/

Basically, he got to a point where he no longer needed to work and decided to reconnect to his SA roots and give back to the community he came from. He's not technically retired but probably won't take a job unless he finds it creatively interesting or personally fulfilling in some other way (his most recent credits are on his children's projects).

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2018 - 3:05 AM   
 By:   The Wanderer   (Member)

His score to LXG is a huge favourite of mine. Great stuff! From Hell is a grim but rewarding listen, too.

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2018 - 4:34 AM   
 By:   Caliburn   (Member)

He was the main guest at Fimucité (film music festival in Spain), where I had the pleasure to have a small chat with him. He is a remarkable, enthusiastic and a happy person.

If interested here is the link to the interview. It is focused on the past though, we did not talk about future plans.

https://soundtrackworld.com/2018/02/trevor-jones-interview/

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2018 - 9:56 AM   
 By:   Paul MacLean   (Member)

Here's a really interesting CNN feature on Trevor Jones, with two video segments, where he talks about the hardships of growing up in Cape Town, and his later success...

https://www.cnn.com/2012/10/23/world/africa/trevor-jones-african-voices/index.html

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2018 - 10:05 AM   
 By:   jlj93byu   (Member)

Lots of great information here, thank you all for sharing it.

I also heard last night he had decided to devote more time to teaching and academia, which mirrors what has been said here. There are some lucky students in South Africa able to learn from a great composer!

I suppose if he's semi-retired from composing, at least it's for the cause of teaching and inspiring future generations, and I am very glad he's in good health.

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2018 - 10:48 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

He was supposed to to "To Tokyo", a film that still hasn't been released, but he removed the film from the news page on his website a year or so ago, implying he's no longer scoring it.

He's also listed for a series called "Frankie & Emma", but it has turned out to be a series of episode shorts that have no end credits, so there's no way to check that for sure short of hoping he'll answer his e-mail.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2018 - 11:04 AM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

I don't have much to add to what's already been linked or sourced above (the man is clearly happy and doing something he believes in away from music), except to add perhaps one not-so-popular voice to the proceedings: I think he wrote his best music early on and didn't really have a ton more to say musically after that.

The trifecta of THE DARK CRYSTAL, NATE AND HAYES and THE SENDER saw Jones writing incredibly sumptuous music in a very distinct and almost ridiculously ravishing voice that felt fresh, exciting and very distinct - I have a hunch that we might be able to thank for his orchestrator Peter Knight, who passed away at the same time that Jones ceased using this particular "sound" (LAST PLACE ON EARTH was their last collaboration, and thereafter Jones' voice changed a great deal).

That certainly isn't to say he didn't still write some really strong stuff thereafter (CLIFFHANGER, LAST OF THE MOHICANS, DARK CITY and ARACHNOPHOBIA come to mind) but the degree of harmonic inspiration, melodic ingenuity, orchestrational craft etc. are nowhere in league with those early works, not by a miracle mile.

I liken it to the way there's far more raw inspiration and creativity on display in KRULL, TREK II/III and BATTLE BEYOND THE STARS than Horner's more "refined" later work, where he'd settled comfortably into a successful career and sound and didn't have to "fight" any longer to prove his worth... Or, say, David Arnold, who never again touched the heights of INDEPENDENCE DAY, LAST OF THE DOGMEN or STARGATE later in his career.

I'm sure I'll get tomatoes aplenty thrown my way for saying this (and I'm certainly not using this argument to attack the man's character) but I think some composers genuinely just run out of things to say, and I've felt for a long time Jones was one of those - even as I consider that early sound to be, at its best, utterly breathtaking. Few composers, alive or dead, will ever be able to conjure the grandeur and beauty of an achievement like THE DARK CRYSTAL.

My two cents.

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2018 - 11:06 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I agree that THE DARK CRYSTAL is probably his masterwork, but personally I'll take LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN or THIRTEEN DAYS or CLEOPATRA or DINOTOPIA over NATE & HAYES or even THE SENDER. And I will always have a soft spot for Last of the Mohicans as the first score CD I ever discovered...wish he'd been left to write the entire score.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2018 - 11:17 AM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

I agree that THE DARK CRYSTAL is probably his masterwork, but personally I'll take LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN or THIRTEEN DAYS or CLEOPATRA or DINOTOPIA over NATE & HAYES or even THE SENDER. And I will always have a soft spot for Last of the Mohicans as the first score CD I ever discovered...wish he'd been left to write the entire score.

I still need to check out LXG, I don't believe I've ever heard a note of it. CLEOPATRA's pretty darn good (if not by any measure the strongest musical work associated with that historical figure), THIRTEEN DAYS weirdly does nothing for me at all and DINOTOPIA I recall having both temp-track issues and a main theme that, while very nice, wasn't dramatically impactful or evocative enough to have me revisiting often - Though it has been years since I've listened to it, perhaps it's time to give that one another chance.

But I just can't get over that lush early sound of his - TDK's "Overture", "Love Theme" and "Finale", NATE AND HAYES' ravishing romantic highlights, THE SENDER's sweepingly tragic and darkly lyrical end title... What an incredible, distinct and original voice that was. I wish had had tapped into it more frequently thereafter!

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2018 - 11:20 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Dinotopia is completely lush and up your alley, with multiple wonderful themes. (I think you and I are FB friends right? Send me a PM about it, if you would.) Thirteen Days is one to appreciate more in-film (where it is brilliant and perfectly judged) than on album without context, I suspect.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2018 - 11:26 AM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

Dinotopia is completely lush and up your alley, with multiple wonderful themes. (I think you and I are FB friends right? Send me a PM about it, if you would.) Thirteen Days is one to appreciate more in-film (where it is brilliant and perfectly judged) than on album without context, I suspect.

Yavar


I do have the DINOTOPIA album saved to my iTunes still, I'll give her a spin this evening!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2018 - 11:59 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

One of the most heartbreakingly beautiful tracks he ever wrote can be found in his score to THE MIGHTY.
My Noble Knight (I think it's called). Standalone gorgeous and eye wetting in the film.
Check it out.

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2018 - 12:01 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Yes -- probably one of he best things, if not the best thing, he did, that cue.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2018 - 12:25 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Yes, that finale of THE MIGHTY is bloody incredible.

What I'll miss most about out beloved specialty labels is.....NATE AND HAYES.
I'd heard it was good, never saw the movie or want to, took a chance on the CD when LLL did it based on the positive chatter and it became a favorite. I play the hell out of that one....I'll miss those chances when cds and all this stuff ends. Hurts more to know that CD wss a dud for the label....too bad not enough people tried it like I did.

Giving the single disc DINOTOPIA another shot, I was underwhelmed by it....the 10-cd promo whatever it was even more!

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2018 - 12:38 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

One of the most heartbreakingly beautiful tracks he ever wrote can be found in his score to THE MIGHTY.
My Noble Knight (I think it's called). Standalone gorgeous and eye wetting in the film.
Check it out.


I forgot about this one, and I think it might actually be my favorite Trevor Jones score! It's a bit unusual at times though...not for everyone, perhaps. But I adore it.

I may be in the minority but I'm not wild about Nate & Hayes. It's far too repetitive, with very little interesting thematic variation, just: here's this lovely theme. Now here's this action theme. Now some more of this theme, now some more of that theme, barely changed if at all. Even though it's an album arrangement and not the complete score, it's a rare orchestral 80s score that feels too long of an album for the material.

Yavar

 
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