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 Posted:   Jun 18, 2018 - 3:08 PM   
 By:   daretodream   (Member)

Here's a dopey question. Why would they record it in stereo only just to remix it in mono later on? Just curious.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2018 - 3:14 PM   
 By:   Les Jepson   (Member)

Here's a dopey question. Why would they record it in stereo only just to remix it in mono later on? Just curious.

Because the sudden expansion into stereo at the end of the Newman's TCF trademark adds to the impact of Goldenthal's alteration of the original CinemaScope Extension.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2018 - 4:23 PM   
 By:   daretodream   (Member)

Here's a dopey question. Why would they record it in stereo only just to remix it in mono later on? Just curious.

Because the sudden expansion into stereo at the end of the Newman's TCF trademark adds to the impact of Goldenthal's alteration of the original CinemaScope Extension.


So which version of Goldenthal's take on TCF is in included in LLL's album? The mono or stereo version?

 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2018 - 7:02 PM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

So which version of Goldenthal's take on TCF is in included in LLL's album? The mono or stereo version?

Both.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2018 - 2:42 PM   
 By:   Les Jepson   (Member)

So which version of Goldenthal's take on TCF is in included in LLL's album? The mono or stereo version?

Both.


Wrong. Both instances of Goldenthal's ALIEN version of the TCF Fanfare+CinemaScope Extension on the LLL release (one on each disc) are the mono-expanding-into-stereo film mix. The straight Newman version, on disc two only, is all in stereo. To hear the Goldenthal take all in stereo you need to hear the one that opens Varese Sarabande's PREDATOR expanded issue.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2018 - 3:12 PM   
 By:   daretodream   (Member)

So why then they didn't include TCF (Alien ver.) in stereo on this one? I don't understand.

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2018 - 3:39 PM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

So which version of Goldenthal's take on TCF is in included in LLL's album? The mono or stereo version?

Both.


Wrong. Both instances of Goldenthal's ALIEN version of the TCF Fanfare+CinemaScope Extension on the LLL release (one on each disc) are the mono-expanding-into-stereo film mix. The straight Newman version, on disc two only, is all in stereo. To hear the Goldenthal take all in stereo you need to hear the one that opens Varese Sarabande's PREDATOR expanded issue.


I only meant that both the mono-into-stereo version and the unaltered stereo version are in the La-La Land set, which was admittedly misunderstanding the original question.

And the Varèse Predator has the fanfare as mono-into-stereo as well.


So why then they didn't include TCF (Alien ver.) in stereo on this one? I don't understand.

The fanfare was probably mixed into mono and then had the alterations applied way back when the film was originally mixed. They might even have reconstructed it in stereo and realized it sounded better the way it was, or that given the sonic processing on the original, a stereo reconstruction might have been very difficult. But given that it has been released by several labels and yet has never appeared in any other format than the mono into stereo, it is probably just the way it is.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2018 - 4:36 PM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

And the TCF fanfare was always in mono - also in the film - they recorded it in stereo but was then mixed in mono

Except, as I said, for Goldenthal's modification at the end, which expands into stereo.


Obviously, but the fanfare is in mono - and the into-stereo is probably for the sake of effect - like when A movie in 1:85 suddenly open it’s aspect ratio in 2:35.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2018 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   Les Jepson   (Member)

And the Varèse Predator has the fanfare as mono-into-stereo as well.

I re-checked this. You are right and I was wrong. My apologies.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2018 - 12:49 PM   
 By:   Chris Avis   (Member)

So I've always loved Goldenthal's original Alien3 album, but wasn't overly familiar with the score outside of the context of the film where it works brilliantly. I'm finding this new expanded presentation of the score a bit of a challenge to get through... I find there's too many moments of low key music where there's little of interest going on. If nothing else, it gives me an appreciation of how brilliantly the producers of the original album condensed the work down into a incredibly engaging listen.

Chris.

 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2018 - 2:01 PM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

So I've always loved Goldenthal's original Alien3 album, but wasn't overly familiar with the score outside of the context of the film where it works brilliantly. I'm finding this new expanded presentation of the score a bit of a challenge to get through... I find there's too many moments of low key music where there's little of interest going on. If nothing else, it gives me an appreciation of how brilliantly the producers of the original album condensed the work down into a incredibly engaging listen.

Chris.


I had the opposite reaction-

I bought this as much to complete my expansions of the Alien soundtracks, as to hear Goldenthal's music.

I liked the music and the expanded album so much I had to dig out my copy of Demolition Man and Interview with a Vampire, and track down a (reasonably priced, all considered) copy of the OOP Batman Forever.

Goldenthal may have entered my top-5 (def. top-10) favorites over this.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2018 - 2:22 PM   
 By:   Michael_McMahan   (Member)



I liked the music and the expanded album so much I had to dig out my copy of Demolition Man and Interview with a Vampire, and track down a (reasonably priced, all considered) copy of the OOP Batman Forever.

Goldenthal may have entered my top-5 (def. top-10) favorites over this.


Cobb is a must-have also, IMO. Pretty much all his others are great too...but Cobb is top shelf for me.

 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2018 - 2:38 PM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

Thanks for that recommendation-

There is also Final Fantasy- The Spirits Within (in desperate need of expansion). That is much more thematically oriented than Alien 3s post-modern gloriousness.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2018 - 3:53 PM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

listening to the score I noticed a click sound in GOTCHA - HELLO, I MUST BE GOING



it occurs at the 1:21_1:22 at the left side on a instrument beat


is this a click from the mastering?, a source related problem? or an instrument ?



 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2018 - 5:02 PM   
 By:   Death Incarnate   (Member)

listening to the score I noticed a click sound in GOTCHA - HELLO, I MUST BE GOING
it occurs at the 1:21_1:22 at the left side on a instrument beat
is this a click from the mastering?, a source related problem? or an instrument ?

I definitely hear no click/pop from 1:20-1:23. Maybe an artifact from you ripping the CD? Happens to me sometimes.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2018 - 4:55 AM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

it can also be descreibed as a kind of combine click/drop out - very fast

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2019 - 10:35 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

Just wanted to bump this thread, and wish everyone a Happy ALIEN DAY! I look back fondly at LLL's masterful joke with their release of Ancient Aliens, and of course Alien 3.

 
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