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How many of you look forward to this portion of the AA show as much as I do? This is the one part of the show I absolutely MUST watch and tape so I can watch it again later. I listen to the music intently and work on which soundtracks they are taking the excerpts from. (I've noticed some notable excerpts from DANGEROUS BEAUTY, NURSE BETTY, and DURANGO amongst others) and I get very sad when I see all of those familiar faces appear and shocked when I see a familiar face I did not know passed away. As I get older (48 and counting)I become more and more emotionally affected when these industry giants pass away realizing that there will never be another Dudley Moore, Richard Harris, Peter Hunt, John Frankenheimer, Kim Hunter, Billy Wilder, Rod Steiger etc. (and that's just a few from this past year). I also wondered about how many of you can name some of the industry professionals the Academy has MISSED on this segment of the show. A few that come to mind in recent years are:
De Forest Kelley
John Colicos
Peggy Lee
Ray Walston
George Dunning
Anthony Newley
Cannot figure out why I look forward to being so sad but I can't wait for this year's show.
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Mar 19, 2003 - 7:49 PM
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joan hue
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I can’t say I look forward to this part of the Oscars as it deeply grieves me, but I admit
that I am glued to the set during this montage.
During my childhood, youth, and adult life, I have lived many “memorable
moments.” We all have, and we tend to try to recapture them in some kind of sequel
by revisiting that special beach with the same friends or family members, by restaging an
identical party, or by some other type of repeat performance. Usually doesn’t work
because memorable moments tend to be spontaneous when Heaven, earth, air, fire, the
planets, humor, zest and every other random thing just seems to align in perfect harmony.
That type of “life symmetry” rarely is replicated. I just hope to authentically live more
MM’s in my future.
My other memorable moments are those that I’ve lived VICARIOUSLY thanks to
the artists in the entertainment industry. Their notable and extraordinary recreations of
memorable moments seem often limitless and can be replicated in their future
projects....as long as they’re alive. Yes, we have TV, VHS, and DVD to capture forever
their historical artistry, but with their deaths, they can no longer provide me more future
memorable moments. I can’t count how many times Jimmy Stewart made me laugh and
shed mammoth tears. All I can aquire now from him are fond memories and repeat
performances. I want more Shakespeare from Olivier, more laughs from Lemmon and
Matthau, more chills from Hitchcock, more class and grace from Hepburn, and more
masterly music from Rozsa and Waxman. So each year I am deeply saddened by this
Oscar montage; I’m also filled with a kind of winsome melancholy as I remember all my
vicarious “lives” lived through them, and ultimately I truly feel “diminished” by their
loss....and mine.
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DeForest (one "r" only) Kelley.
I remember that the In Memoriam segment at the ceremony in March, 1996, led off with Miklos Rozsa. Obviously, the plum position for this feature is to be last, but first is, if you will, definitely next-best.
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Mar 20, 2003 - 6:35 AM
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ian642002
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The BAFTA awards had a neat way of doing things, in that it did indeed have the usual roster of the departed, but its choice of music, We Have All The Time In The World from OHMSS, sung by Louis Armstrong, was a sweet touch, a melancholic, but warming musical accompaniment to the names of those who left us.
Sadly, they've dropped it for some godawful, violins 'n tears gloop.
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i remember them paying respects to De Forrest Kelly...
Thanks to Original for the correct spelling... De Forest Kelley WAS mentioned during the EMMY awards segment of the dearly departed but was NOT featured during the Academy's show that year (or to be more precise, the following year of his death). I do not recall if his name was mentioned during the BAFTA awards which also has a similar segment. Each year there are numerous industry professionals who pass away and are not honored in this segment of the show. Many more of them are mentioned in each year's TIME OUT movie review guide in a section of the book which I believe is called "End Credits".
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I wrote a series of talent bios for the DVD of STAR TREK IV: THE VOYAGE HOME (that were ultimately, and unfortunately, not used), and lavished particular care on Kelley's (ironically, the one member of the original TREK crew I'd never met). The upshot of the bio I did is that Kelley was Dr. McCoy in so many ways: nephew of a Georgia country doctor (who had initially intended to go to medical school himself, until his family's finances during the Great Depression made that dream impossible), and an enormous, deep humanity that one saw in Dr. McCoy.
When eulogies were given at his memorial at Paramount Studios, they were heartfelt and genuine.
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The BAFTA awards had a neat way of doing things, in that it did indeed have the usual roster of the departed, but its choice of music, We Have All The Time In The World from OHMSS, sung by Louis Armstrong, was a sweet touch, a melancholic, but warming musical accompaniment to the names of those who left us.
Sadly, they've dropped it for some godawful, violins 'n tears gloop.
If it's last year's BAFTA show that "gloop" you refer to is Rozsa's love theme from THE THIEF OF BAGDAD. (I think I can hear original's screams from here.)
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I never like this segment. I always object to the changing volume of applause as the names are displayed. It makes me feel sadder for the ones that get little applause.
There are two options for this segment: either the audience is asked to not applaud, or mute the sound from the auditorium and let the music play.
I use to feel the same way about the applause during this segment, but now I'm ok with it as it's really the only way audience members can show some recognition of talent to those known to them in a profession they share. Still I think your idea of muting the audience response is a good one.
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I can’t say I look forward to this part of the Oscars as it deeply grieves me, but I admit
that I am glued to the set during this montage.
During my childhood, youth, and adult life, I have lived many “memorable
moments.” We all have, and we tend to try to recapture them in some kind of sequel
by revisiting that special beach with the same friends or family members, by restaging an
identical party, or by some other type of repeat performance. Usually doesn’t work
because memorable moments tend to be spontaneous when Heaven, earth, air, fire, the
planets, humor, zest and every other random thing just seems to align in perfect harmony.
That type of “life symmetry” rarely is replicated. I just hope to authentically live more
MM’s in my future.
My other memorable moments are those that I’ve lived VICARIOUSLY thanks to
the artists in the entertainment industry. Their notable and extraordinary recreations of
memorable moments seem often limitless and can be replicated in their future
projects....as long as they’re alive. Yes, we have TV, VHS, and DVD to capture forever
their historical artistry, but with their deaths, they can no longer provide me more future
memorable moments. I can’t count how many times Jimmy Stewart made me laugh and
shed mammoth tears. All I can aquire now from him are fond memories and repeat
performances. I want more Shakespeare from Olivier, more laughs from Lemmon and
Matthau, more chills from Hitchcock, more class and grace from Hepburn, and more
masterly music from Rozsa and Waxman. So each year I am deeply saddened by this
Oscar montage; I’m also filled with a kind of winsome melancholy as I remember all my
vicarious “lives” lived through them, and ultimately I truly feel “diminished” by their
loss....and mine.
Thanks Joan for your personal and heartfelt response. I can truly relate to everything you said. I remember hearing on the news radio when Jimmy Stewart died and crying over it...all of those wonderful characters...(Maybe I subconsciously thought he was immortal)+ he had such a solid run of excellent pictures.
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I do like the use of music in these segments... Mark Mackenzie's scores are frequently plundered for this purpose. I would love it if someone could put together a definitive list of the scores that have been used in these segments during the past 5 or 10 years (I know that would be a lot of work)
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I remember that they missed John Candy the year he died. I mean Jonh Candy for Christ's sake!
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GLOOP!!!
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I remember that they missed John Candy the year he died. I mean Jonh Candy for Christ's sake!
How about Ray Walston!
DAMN YANKEES
THE STING
FROM THE HIP
FAST TIMES AT RIDGEMONT HIGH
+ countless others
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