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 Posted:   May 27, 2018 - 3:51 AM   
 By:   jsmiley108   (Member)

Predator was on TV last night and as I hadn't watched it for a while, I decided to have another view. The combination of film and score is so incredibly effective (the film would be quite deficient without Silvestri's music). The only cue that seemed to jar is the trumpet cue (tracked I believe) just before the End Credits. Otherwise everything seems to be perfect.

Just curious if there is any information (interviews etc) about the scoring process and if McTiernan was happy with what Silvestri was doing or if there were any changes along the way...

 
 
 Posted:   May 27, 2018 - 4:23 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

I don't know offhand of any links which might answer your question, js, but I'd just like to agree that it's an amazingly effective and thrilling action score. Not just the writing, but the way it's spotted, with short silences in the middle of cues creating as much tension as the music itself.

In the way it was spotted it reminded me occasionally of the best of Goldsmith. His FIRST BLOOD comes to mind.

 
 
 Posted:   May 27, 2018 - 7:35 AM   
 By:   jsmiley108   (Member)

Found some info here...

https://cnmsarchive.wordpress.com/2014/06/25/alan-silvestri-from-romances-to-predators/

 
 
 Posted:   May 27, 2018 - 7:39 AM   
 By:   jsmiley108   (Member)

Also from here:

http://www.underscores.fr/rencontres/interviews-vo/2015/11/interview-with-alan-silvestri/

Talking about ballsy, you did work with John McTiernan on Predator…
Predator was a very unique challenge, musically. During the scoring process, we have theses streamers that indicate when a cue begins and when a cue ends. When it begins, we have a green streamer, so we play the first piece of music. When it ends, there is a red streamer and you’re finished. In Predator, every time the green streamer came across and we played music, and then the red streamer came across and right with it was a green streamer! Every ending of a cue was the beginning of the next one. And of course, nobody says anything for a very long time in the movie! (laughs) So it became a very interesting kind of jungle ballet: there was lot of music, an incredible pile of possibility for a composer, but also by sheer quantity a daunting kind of task. Working with John McTiernan, we all knew that jungle sounds and things falling in the jungle only could get you so far, but in terms of keeping tension, moving narrative… We didn’t even see the Predator for all this time, we heard little sounds once in a while. Of course John Williams taught us everything we will ever need to know about having music remind us that there is something bad around, with Jaws. (laughs) So music had a big mission, a big challenge there. I remember McTiernan being very clear about where he wanted to feel the tension and keep it moving. From that point of view, it was kind of simple, although with many cups of coffee, to know what had to be done. You just had to be able to get it done.

 
 
 Posted:   May 28, 2018 - 5:38 AM   
 By:   leagolfer   (Member)

I know nothing about Predator outside the movie/score, but it is a fine piece by Silvestri the jungle cues with echoey bongo & percussion motif's were really intense when i first viewed the movie, the brass section was aggressive at times & the strings, but there was also some nice mellow motifs it all fit the script perfectly.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 14, 2020 - 4:20 AM   
 By:   jsmiley108   (Member)

My local cinema in Sydney has been screening Predator twice a day for the last few weeks since cinemas reopened (hopefully not short lived - the cinema re-openings) and so I went to see it this afternoon (only my 2nd viewing of it in the cinema after first seeing it in 1986). Wow, what a blast it was/is. The Main Title is so kinetic (and the piccolo was right in my ear lol). It is also such a well put together film, excellent direction, tight script and one of Schwarzenegger's best performances. John McTiernan was on a real roll... Predator, Die Hard and then Hunt for the Red October (all with fantastic scores from three composers at the top of their game). As I said before, the score really makes this film... and I think ultimately enjoyed best when viewing the film (the music was satisfyingly right up there in the mix). They don't make them like this any more...

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2020 - 5:40 AM   
 By:   jsmiley108   (Member)

Wow, I just saw this... it is really amazing analysis of the elements of the score...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih6zx1_435U

 
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