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Very good decision, thank you, Bill.
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...so why would you be happy to have that option denied to people who want it?
Same reason you generally don't fart in church... it's neither the time nor the place.
Bravo Bill.
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At least there was a place for discussion of things that are important to the people who buy things from FSM and keep their operation in business. Nobody ever twisted your arm to go to the other board, so why would you be happy to have that option denied to people who want it?
Dana, people buy a magazine and film music Cd's from FSM, which has nothing to do with any war that's going on right now.
If i go to a barbershop i would not expect to be able to order a hamburger there, right?
FSM deals with film music, and therefore I think this is not the best place to discuss current world events.
Stefan.
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I don't agree with the current Gulf postings on the FILM MUSIC discussion boards. Things were getting out of hand (and way too personal in tone).
Certainly I don't see any problem with discussing this sort of thing in the NON Film Music Forum, and if that's being deleted then thats a shame.
All most people - myself included - were asking for is that Gulf topics be kept off the Film Score forum.
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You know, London's Hyde Park Corner has always been the traditional spot at which any and all with an opinion, whether in favor of the ruling party, or as a supporter of the Loyal Opposition, can raise his or her voice for everoyne to hear.
That does not mean, however, that the expression of such opinions is prohibited on any other street corner in the city, only that one is less likely to have a guaranteed audience.
This is cyberspace, for Heaven's sake. The size and number of threads, not to mention their content, do not require bulky mimeograph masters requiring storage in Lukas's garage, and any attempt to limit the length or subject the contributors address limits, not free speech, per se, but the full range of expression.
Bill, do you honestly think that film and film music exist in an artistic and cultural vacuum? As Alfred Hitchcock once observed, drama is life with the dull bits cut out. Well, the films that're discussed here are, for the most part, distillations of the society that produced them, incorporating the politics, predjudices and idealism of the filmmakers and, indirectly, the audiences at which they are aimed.
What're you going to do Bill, should someone make a film which incorporates a notable score, about the political issues of the day? Grant special dispensation on a case-by-case basis to carry the discussion into a political vein because it's film-related?
While it probably cannot be said that everyone who posts here is equally grown-up intellectually or emotionally, I feel that everyone certainly does have the right to be heard, even if their opinions are sometimes antithetical to what a reader -- or all readers, if necessary -- think and believe. People have the choice of not reading what they choose to ignore.
I'm frequently on the receiving-end of brickbats from people who disagree with me, and some of that criticism is inelegant to the point of vulgarity. So what? I can take it, for bthe simple reason that I don't take it personally. I think that some of the people are morons for the positions they hold, and they undoubtedly think the same of me. The universe remains in balance and life goes on. It galls me that you may be catering to some thin-skinned element out there who probably have no business interacting in a public forum that, but its mere nature, has a bare-knuckle moment ot two.
Rather than proscribing subject matter that you and Lukas asrbitrarily deem inappropriate, you ought to make a simple, long overdue addition to the opening page of the Message Board, that reads in full:
"The opinions expressed on this message board are not those of Film Score Monthly."
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Mar 23, 2003 - 1:19 PM
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EXCELLENT!!! And better late than never. The experiment was given plenty of time, and failed. Let's keep the vitriol out of this forum.
Translation: "I don't want to think, and I don't any one else to, either."
No one ever forced you to go to the other board, so I am baffled as to what problem you could possibly have had with it. I TOTALLY agree that the war threads had no place on this board, but I have yet to understand the logic in eliminating the other board, which was the place for those threads. Incidentally, there was quite a lot of other great stuff too, humorous threads, sharing of common experiences, etc. Believe it or not, bete, some of us actually have brains and opinions about things. As usually happens when heavy-handed autocratic decisions are made, the baby was thrown out with the bathwater.
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I'll throw in my two cents worth, and thank all the unnamed IDIOTS(They know who they are) who were instrumental in forcing FSM to remove what was my favorite section of the board. You managed to accomplish what Latham, Andre, and Daniel2 were unable to. This is the ONLY time I've EVER resorted to calling anyone names on this board, but this has really pissed me off. I don't blame ANYONE involved with FSM for this decision. I'd be fucking pissed off as well... and I am.
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Mar 23, 2003 - 3:07 PM
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I'm sorry you feel this way, Dana. As mentioned above, the Non-Film Score board was an experiment, a failed one. No one complained about the lack of a forum for political discussion before that forum existed. I now regret having provided that which most never realized they were missing.
And it's debatable as to whether or not that forum was being used properly to begin with. When a huge majority of posts descend beyond the political into hate and intolerance of multiple viewpoints, there comes a point where you have to decide when a forum tends to become more of a liability to the harmony of the board than a benefit.
The Internet is full of places to discuss political philosophies. Not having the option here at FSM does not mean people will have nowhere to go, as some seem to be indicating .
Bill
I bow to Joan Hue, who has said it all (as usual) in such a clear and heartfelt way.
As for me, I guess I'd say that okay, those who would like to talk about things in addition to film music can indeed find somewhere else to play. In my case, that would be over $1000 worth of purchases of FSM product walking out the door. I wonder from a business perspective how wise it is to piss off a segment of your already-small customer base...
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