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 Posted:   Mar 24, 2003 - 12:57 PM   
 By:   Bob Bryden   (Member)

I just did a long-delayed A/B between my
original soundtrack CD (Columbia/Legacy)
of John William's gorgeous Reivers (1969)
score and the suite he recorded with narration
by Burgess Meredith for Sony Classical (1990-91)
Much to my delight - it appears there at least
three cues in the suite not on the original
Lp. Two of them fully minus narration and
very beautiful (3:06-5:27 and 14:35-16:42)
The finale of the suite is also different
from the Lp. Does anybody know any more about
this? Are these cues from the film or written
expressly for the suite, etc.? The sunny
music Willaims wrote for this film not only
evokes the turn-of-the-last-century for which
it was written - but my own wonderful summers
of 1969-71. It's such heartfelt stuff.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2003 - 11:33 PM   
 By:   pete   (Member)

I've wandered that myself, I've never seen the movie, but I find it hard to belive that such wonderful pieces "The First Car In Town..." and the Race between the car and the horse (from the suite) were written for the film AND NOT included on the original soundtrack!!!

Could be wrong!!! Really I have no idea.
Oh and I wonder why that lovely waltz theme didn't make it onto the suite???????

Anyone here seen the movie and knows the music in the film?????

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2003 - 1:49 AM   
 By:   Justin Doring   (Member)

I've never seen The Reivers, so I've also wondered about this and would love an answer. The extra music in the suite is excellent.

 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2003 - 2:11 AM   
 By:   Dr. Nigel Channing   (Member)

The Reivers desperately needs to be released on dvd! (with an isolated score, of course).... it would also make a good FSM title!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2003 - 9:59 AM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

wink

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2003 - 6:16 PM   
 By:   Membership Expired   (Member)

but I find it hard to belive that such wonderful pieces "The First Car In Town..." and the Race between the car and the horse (from the suite) were written for the film AND NOT included on the original soundtrack!!!

Why not, happens all the time.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2003 - 7:48 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

The Reivers desperately needs to be released on dvd! (with an isolated score, of course).... it would also make a good FSM title!

FYI, folks there already was an expanded edition released several years ago by SONY with never-before-released music that I think might still be in print.

As for an isolated score.....

A very bad business idea, but that is another topic.


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2003 - 1:19 AM   
 By:   pete   (Member)

Yeah the Sony CD, has 1 extra track and the Finale starts slightly different from the Varese Special release,
When I bought My Varese CD about 9 years ago in Sydney the shop had about 20 of them in stock --- never thought to buy them!!! Wish I had---what are they worth these days??????

I remember seeing the sony Cd in quite a few shops, not too long ago, so it should be around if anyone missed it,
And the Main Title (the highlight of the CD appears on the 1969 - 1999 Williams Greatest hits CD -released by Sony.

If your a Williams fan and haven't heard any Reivers music yet - I highly recomend it

So back to the 2 instrumentals from the Suite???? Anyone know if they were in the film???? I don't know why I need to know this...but I do need to know this!!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2003 - 5:06 AM   
 By:   Mack Gray 1940   (Member)

I have the Sony Classical "Music for Stage and Screen" w/John Williams and the Boston Pops - The Reivers 18'42 (with the Meredith narration). Also includes "The Red Pony" by Aaron Copland (one of my favorite soundtracks) and Suite from "Born on the Fourth of July". Is the the same one you're referring to?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2003 - 10:04 AM   
 By:   Bailey   (Member)

It's been a while since I've seen the film, but I'm fairly certain that the "First Car in Town" and the "Horse Race" cues are not in the film and were written for the suite. The horse race in the film was a slow-motion sequence, under narration; the music was slow-paced with some curious bowing echo effects to match the character of the scene (nostalgic remembrance was more the point than the actual race). It's a great cue. As for the suite's finale, that was written for the suite, not the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2003 - 11:49 AM   
 By:   pete   (Member)

I have the Sony Classical "Music for Stage and Screen" w/John Williams and the Boston Pops - The Reivers 18'42 (with the Meredith narration)...... Is the the same one you're referring to?

Yes that's the suite we are talking about......not to be confused with the 2 original soundtracks - 1) by Varese sarabande and 2) Sony / lagacy with an extra track,

The suite was arranged (and possibly extra material composed???) was made by John Williams in 1980 for his debut with the Boston Pops, (I think) and recorded 10 years later for Sony Classical and released on the Stage & Screen CD.



 
 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2003 - 3:53 AM   
 By:   Justin Doring   (Member)

That's just like Williams to compose some superb extra music for a concert suite!

NP: OHMSS

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2008 - 12:10 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

"The horse race in the film was a slow-motion sequence, under narration; the music was slow-paced with some curious bowing echo effects to match the character of the scene"

I just played the Sony expanded disc today for the first time in a while and if it had that piece of music (quoted above) on it, it would be perfect. It's pretty close to perfect now, with the added cue and snippets, but that piece is fantastic and would be the cherry on the pie.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2008 - 2:27 AM   
 By:   Starkbier   (Member)

I love Burgess Meredith's naration during the race. That in combination with the music always give me goose bumps.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2009 - 8:52 PM   
 By:   tubachet   (Member)

In 1981, 12 years after the release of the motion picture, Reivers, John Williams assumed conductorship of the Boston Pops. The first piece he composed for the Pops was, The Reivers suite. At the time he told me that he had written the tuba solo in "The First Car in Town," portion especially for me. I was the tuba player in the Pops at that time. We recorded in for Sony a few years later, I think. I'd have to check. Really good stuff. In 1985 he wrote a tuba concerto for me, which we premiered with the Pops. And he wrote much more. A fun era, following the glorious era of Fiedler.

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2009 - 9:27 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

Great to hear from you, Chester, and welcome aboard!!!



Of course, I have to admit, when I think "John Williams," and I think "tuba," I inevitably think of...

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2009 - 11:30 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Hey Chester, great to see you here.

By the way, what do you think of the two recordings of the Williams tuba concerto that have been released since you played it way back when?

The Marc Easener version here:

http://www.amazon.com/20th-Century-Concerti/dp/B00005Y0ND

...and the one with my countryman Øystein Baadsvik here:

http://www.hbdirect.com/album_detail.php?pid=1047977

 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2011 - 6:42 AM   
 By:   Juanki   (Member)

I came accros the cd and I am thinking on buying it. Do you think guys this will get rereleased or expanded?

 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2011 - 9:58 AM   
 By:   meddlingmonk   (Member)

I hope so, but I would snatch this now (provided it's not over $20), because who knows when it'll happen?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2011 - 10:02 AM   
 By:   AndyDursin   (Member)

I came accros the cd and I am thinking on buying it. Do you think guys this will get rereleased or expanded?

It certainly could use it, as the music from the horse-race is dying to be issued. Also, I find the Masters Film Music CD to be superior (hiss and all) to the Sony CD, which is filtered with noise reduction to the degree where some of the dynamic range is cut off.

 
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