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 Posted:   Mar 31, 2003 - 10:56 PM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

I may have just witnessed the end of Derek Jeter's season and I hope not the end of his career. And it will be because he proved George wrong and hustled on a play that a lesser player would never have tried to do.

Derek, you are one of the true Yankee all-time greats and we are all praying for you right now.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2003 - 8:15 AM   
 By:   Originalthinkr@aol.com   (Member)

You're not a "true" Yankee until you've found yourself in George's cross-hairs for being anything less than his warped idea of perfect.

So I guess Jeter now qualifies.

 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2003 - 8:54 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

The reason why the Yankees have 26 championships original, is because we consistently produce players of greatness and class like Jeter, just as was the case in a previous generation with Gehrig, DiMaggio, Mantle etc.

The reason why the Mets have never had a dynasty in their lives is because they've had some problems in the greatness and class areas. The 86 Mets had a chance to be a sustained dynasty like the 98 Yankees were, and the Mets squandered it in a sea of booze and drugs and self-centeredness. Maybe a little sense of Yankee pride would have done wonders for them.

How does it feel BTW to be on the losing end of the most lopsided opening day loss since the St. Louis Browns in 1951? wink

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2003 - 6:59 PM   
 By:   Originalthinkr@aol.com   (Member)

No, Eric, the Yankees built dynasties by, for the most part, buying what they needed, starting with Babe Ruth (George did have some catching up to do).

The Mets' decline after '86 was due, more than anything, to the front office's allowing the quality of the team's middle relief to decline markedly, along with the pointless trade of Lenny Dykstra, who was the real sparkplug of the '86 team.

 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2003 - 7:43 PM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

"No, Eric, the Yankees built dynasties by, for the most part, buying what they needed, starting with Babe Ruth "

Lou Gehrig, Joe DiMaggio, Whitey Ford, Mickey Mantle, Ron Guidry, Thurman Munson, Don Mattingly, Bernie Williams, Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera.

Home grown all of them. And with Ruth, the Yankees were the team taking the risk not the Red Sox since Ruth had declined considerably in 1919. Glenn Stout's book "Red Sox Century" is must reading for shattering old conventional wisdom about the Yankees-Red Sox transactions of the Frazee era. Unlike previous authors who never went back to the actual documents and materials and the things written at the time, Stout cuts through the nonsense completely and notes how hardly anyone in Boston was bemoaning Ruth's sale at the time since they resented his home runs and his leaving the starting rotation.

"The Mets' decline after '86 was due, more than anything, to the front office's allowing the quality of the team's middle relief to decline markedly, along with the pointless trade of Lenny Dykstra, who was the real sparkplug of the '86 team."

If you're going to bring in the matter of incompetent front-office in trades to justify the Mets, then all I can do is note the brilliance of Yankee trades and smareter management which again is not dictated by the mere presence of money alone, which God knows the Mets have always had plenty of too.

But in 1987 and 88, Dykstra was still there and the Mets choked big time when they should have been building on their 86 team. I wonder why? smile

 
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