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 Posted:   Jun 8, 2018 - 9:35 AM   
 By:   That Neil Guy   (Member)

I don't now this guy or his band and I don't really watch horror movies or listen to their scores, and I haven't even read this article. But. I thought some here might be interested.

How Colin Stetson Made the Year's Most Terrifying Score
https://www.gq.com/story/how-colin-stetson-made-the-years-most-terrifying-score


 
 
 Posted:   Jun 9, 2018 - 1:00 AM   
 By:   cathiejohn   (Member)

I saw this yesterday and can't stop thinking about it. Horrible but brilliant.

Can't remember a thing about the score but since I will certainly see it again I'll keep an ear out!

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2018 - 11:38 AM   
 By:   Jon Broxton   (Member)

My review of the score for HEREDITARY, for anyone who's interested:

https://moviemusicuk.us/2018/06/15/hereditary-colin-stetson/

Jon

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2018 - 9:08 AM   
 By:   spook   (Member)

My review of the score for HEREDITARY, for anyone who's interested:

https://moviemusicuk.us/2018/06/15/hereditary-colin-stetson/

Jon


Great review Jon. I was keen to hear this score and on a first listen it just left me cold. I’m happy with atonal dissonant scores but this just hasn’t stood out at all for me so far.
Going to catch the film this week so maybe that’ll help appreciating a second listen.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2018 - 1:59 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Saw the film two weeks ago. I found it to be overrated, to be honest, and not terribly scary (except maybe a sequence or two towards the end). It certainly wasn't the new GRUDGE experience I had anticipated after the Sundance buzz; instead more about real-life family horrors and traumas. And a WICKER MAN-like ending. But lots of great potential in the visualizations. Looking forward to the next film by the director.

Can't remember much of the score; doesn't sound like my cup of tea. But I'm always open to dissonant explorations with an 'arty' twist. Might give it a whirl.

 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2018 - 3:40 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

I didn’t find the film in the least bit scary. The first 90 minutes were OK but the ridiculously last 30 minutes negated everything which had gone before. Was there music? I didn’t even notice it!

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2018 - 5:19 PM   
 By:   spook   (Member)

Just saw this and thought it was excellent. Not sure about the absolute revelation at the end but thinking back on it, it all tied up. The score whilst terrific for the end stuff almost derailed the film for me at the start. The constant negative vibe it created became really annoying. I really felt there should have been some kind of variation in tone...but hey!...whadoiknow! I’m just a punter that buys a ticket :-)

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2018 - 5:39 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

So, this is domestic drama masquerading as horror alá The Babadook again? Lousy trend.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2018 - 4:06 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

It's never a good sign when a horror film elicits more guffaws (and guf-fives) from the audience than actual screams. And I'm not talking about that horror film nervous laughter either. This was full on 'Carry-On Possession' shenanigans hilarity from the general audience.
People were genuinely tittering at the silliness and histrionics of the story and characters. Gabriel Byrne was especially funny with his occasional lapses back into oirish. The scenes near the end were producing hysterical laughter from our audience.
It's basically a modern hybrid updating of Rosemary's Baby and Wicker Man, with some Sentinel silliness thrown in at the end.
And yes, it's another one of those domestic drama's masquerading as horror.
I can only assume the critics filling the poster with 5 stars and superlatives are aged about 20 and have never seen much in the history of horror films.
I'm surprised at the people above not noticing the music though. I thought it really stood out. From the throbbing electronic heartbeat pulsing continuously to the modern classical pieces that gave it a Shining/Shutter Island vibe. I thought it was decent enough.
But the film is probably the most overrated horror since The Babadook.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2018 - 4:43 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

But the film is probably the most overrated horror since The Babadook.

Agreed, Kev. Neither this nor THE BABADOOK did much for me, but everyone around me seemed to love them.

It's a shame, because I had hoped this would be THE horror film for me this year, a la IT FOLLOWS, UNDER THE SHADOW, SPLIT, UNDER THE SKIN, MAMA etc. were for THEIR respective years. One good horror film always manages to sneak into my Top 10 of the year.

This year, there are other candidates vying for this/these revered spots - A QUIET PLACE and THE LODGERS (the latter is also not scary in the slightest, but it has some gobsmackingly beautiful visualizations that I just want to hang on my wall).

 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2018 - 6:34 AM   
 By:   spook   (Member)

Well I'm sticking to my guns on HEREDITARY. I'm certainly not 20(!) and have seen a ton of horror films from the classics to enjoyable Z budget efforts. I thought the BABADOOK was great but totally mis-sold as a horror film. So many times movies end up being disappointing for being advertised as something they are not and audiences then condemn them.
A bit surprised by Kev's view of the performances being a bit over the top.( normally totally agree with your thoughts Kev). Toni Collette in particular was incredible (..that scene at the dinner table was outstanding) There were no titters or laughter in the packed screen I saw it at (and the audience was full of the usual kids that normally want to play with their phones or chat) and there was quite a few shocked gasps.
I found UNDER THE SHADOW to be pretty poor and I was looking forward to it being something a bit different ( sorry Thor!) Same with THE LODGERS ( and I love a good ghost story)
Music wise I often live and breath horror scores so HEREDITARY was pretty obvious to me as i was actively listening to it but again I stand by my former comment of it being too one note.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2018 - 8:37 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Sorry Spook, didn't mean to bash your opinion. Yours is no more or less valid than mine smile
I'm glad you connected with it, but I (and the Odeon Liverpool One audience) weren't on the same page.
Yeah, that dinner table argument scene was well done and intense and yes, the film isn't all bad.
It has some decent moments about grief and family, but none of it rang true for me.
It just seemed to be trying too hard to be this generations Rosemary's Baby or Wicker Man.
While some spooky moments and jump scares landed quite well, (although they hardly ever get me anymore frown overall, it was laughter that accompanied much of the final 30 minutes of the film.
I also found Thor's list above to be full of stinkers, save for Quiet Place, which was one intense 90 minute ride.
It Follows was another of those overrated films that arrived full of praise, and left me seriously bored.
Mama looked good but was average at best. Under The Skin was effective but not scary (was it supposed to be?).
I think I'm gonna have to give horror films a rest for a while. Even the trailer for Marrowbone seemed like just so much 'more of the same' (although I think the score is gorgeous).

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2018 - 8:43 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Goes to show how extremely individual the taste in horror movies is. Like comedies and what's funny or not. I want to point out that the level of 'being scared' is not the only criterion I use to evaluate them, however. Usually, it's more important to me if there are visionary qualities in images, sound, storytelling or atmosphere. So a film like THE LODGERS -- while not scary at all -- still scores high because of its mise-en-scene.

There have really only been two horror movies in my life that have made a dramatic impact in terms of sheer terror. The first is ALIEN, which I saw at age 11 (far too young) and the other is THE GRUDGE, which left me sleepless for two weeks. Also formative individual moments in THE SHINING and THE EXORCIST, also viewed at too young an age. Beyond that, however, I tend to look for qualities in horror movies elsewhere. Also, the more cheap jump scares, the poorer the movie. Fortunately, HEREDITARY didn't have that, at least.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2018 - 9:12 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I get where you're coming from Thor, but my general rule of thumb is, if a comedy didn't make me laugh or a horror film didn't scare me or make me tense, it's a fail in the main reason for it's existence.
It could be that the older you get, the more resistant you become to certain elements of them?
I'm 53 now and the scariest thing I can think of is the grandkids getting a hold of my CD collection wink
I agree, the scariest films are the ones you saw quite young and perhaps even too young. Stuff like EXORCIST, SALEM'S LOT (TV) and EVIL DEAD shocked my socks off as a nipper.
The last time I can remember a film genuinely getting under my skin was THE SIXTH SENSE. Those ghosts rambling around the kids house in the middle of the night gave me the heebie-jeebies.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2018 - 5:25 PM   
 By:   connorb93   (Member)

ANYWAY back to the music...

At first, I was rolling my eyes in the theater when the score began. "oh great, another glissando/crescendo score"...but I eventually found it all so fitting. Unnerving, understated, dysmorphic, and just plain creepy!

I'm a huge critic of all synthetic/manipulated scores of this century. They tend to blend together as effective as they may be in the film. Hereditary is a different story, however. No matter if it has gimmicky moments, it's got an identity all its own and I really appreciate the craftsmanship behind it; not to mention real instruments included!

A horror score like Beltrami's A Quiet Place is no help in the film as it just blares incessantly, insisting with every bar that what's on screen is horrifying. Hereditary does the opposite, getting under the skin and being present without being overbearing.

Listening to the score now and I'm just as tense and unsettled as I was watching the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2018 - 2:59 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I should also say that an effective part of HEREDITARY's score is the places where there's NO score. Like the first appearance of the grandmother in the shadows of the room, and when the decapitated body of the mother flows into the treehouse at the end.

I think there are many redeeming features in HEREDITARY, and certainly a great many promising visual and aural aspects that I hope the director gets to explore in further films. Loved the dollhouse realizations, for example. I just don't think it's all it's made out to by the early buzz.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2018 - 7:54 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

That second scene you've hidden in your spoiler zone Thor, is the one that had our audience laughing aloud the most, as though the film was by the Farrelly Bros!!
We are a deeply disturbed people, us Liverpudlians wink

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2018 - 8:57 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I heard laughs in my screening too, but not at that scene. The biggest laugh during my screening was when the mother recreated the car accident in miniatures; and -- in fact -- also the car accident itself, due to the outlandishness of it all. I wonder if some of these comedic undertones were intended or not.

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2018 - 10:03 AM   
 By:   spook   (Member)

Sorry Spook, didn't mean to bash your opinion. Yours is no more or less valid than mine smile.

Of course mate...i didn't take it that way. As a 52 year old Glaswegian that likes film music I'm as thick skinned as a JunkieXL fan ! :-) This place is all about different opinions. I hate when some folk get so 'touchy' about stuff.
connorb93's points are good and I do like the score ( although I don't get all the anti-feeling to Beltrami's Quiet Place score around here which I really enjoyed both in the film and separately) Just wished HEREDETARY had a bit more of a musical journey in its approach as it was DREAD DREAD DREAD!!! from the word go. I did like the style as the film developed though.
Funny how folk react to things differently isn't it. The scenes that you and Thor just mentioned went down pretty well at my screening ( although that second one at the end was a bit Whaaaaa!!!???) and us Glaswegians often don't take prisoners! :-)

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2018 - 10:05 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I've been to Edinburgh and Aberdeen, but not Glasgow. Apparently, that's where it happens! smile

 
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