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 Posted:   Jun 21, 2018 - 8:08 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)


The material on the three editions released in 1990 and not on this release was not, in fact, a 'london session'.


....except the two tracks that were.



That being the song from Her Alibi and the reprise from Rich and Famous. I stand corrected. That omission is odd, by the way. Duration of both cds is about an hour, so it isn't like there wasn't any space.

 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2018 - 8:09 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)


As I've said elsewhere The London Sessions are one of the best things ever to be put on CD.


Agree a thousand percent. I've spun the collection on a regular basis since they've come out. I never grow tired on this music. Also as someone who doesn't need every note of Delerue, this is a perfect compilation of the composer, though I recognize he's done other outstanding stuff not on this release.

 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2018 - 8:24 AM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)

again...?

so CRIMES OF HEART was recorded in those "London sessions"

btw, the GREAT COMPOSER compilation set was more or less the London Sessions reissued


If we go by the track times, the Crimes of the Heart suite is same exact suite from previous releases, which is taken from the soundtrack, which Varese has already reissued.

BTW, for the curious, the Varese Crimes of the Heart soundtrack is a rerecording...

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2018 - 8:45 AM   
 By:   CédricD   (Member)

So it is the third release of these sessions... but with less tracks than before. And by the way, the original albums are not really OOP as you can easily find them on the secondary market at cheap prices, especially in Europe. And if I'm not wrong, this reissue is not remastered.
Putting the London Sessions back in print is a good thing-it's a magnificent collection. But as a shorter Club release ? Come on...



OOP means 'out of print'. So if they're available on the secondary market, and not from the label itself, they're OOP.

And as has been said, the music on this edition is what was recorded new at the time. The material on the three editions released in 1990 and not on this release was not, in fact, a 'london session'.

And I'm not certain, but in my memory this music was only released in 1990. (in Europes, in the US and in Japan, perhaps that counts for three releases...)




In 1990... and (for the most part) in 2001 in the Great Composers collection.

I know what OOP means : what I wanted to say that it's not an argument considering the fact that you can find the original albums (and the Great Composers one) in a couple of clicks-especially the Colosseum editions. Which is not the case with Heathers, for example.

And deleting tracks because they're not from the London sessions is not an argument either. Varese could have included them as "bonus tracks" instead of losing space. What's next ?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 18, 2018 - 11:32 AM   
 By:   Big X   (Member)

Simply majestic! A wonderful release.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 18, 2018 - 12:38 PM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

Simply majestic! A wonderful release.

what a wooondeeeerfuuuuullllll release

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 18, 2018 - 6:54 PM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

I think reading through this full thread might have given me a nose bleed.

Wonderful music indeed, either way.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2020 - 7:40 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

No one ever mentioned this, but it turns out that the Something Wicked suite really IS about a minute shorter, it's not just a typo.

This would have been a perfect release if they had actually released it as intended (i.e. all the music recorded for the London Sessions) but again.....why? Why would they mess things up in this way?

Also no one mentioned it but Beaches and Steel Magnolias were also conducted by Frank Fitzpatrick. not Delerue.

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2020 - 7:54 AM   
 By:   Paul MacLean   (Member)

No one ever mentioned this, but it turns out that the Something Wicked suite really IS about a minute shorter, it's not just a typo.

This would have been a perfect release if they had actually released it as intended (i.e. all the music recorded for the London Sessions) but again.....why? Why would they mess things up in this way?


I have not heard this reissue, but in the Something Wicked suite on the original CD -- at 5:02 -- the previous minute of the suite is repeated.

My assumption is that this was originally an editing error, and presumably amended on this new release.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2020 - 5:21 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)


I have not heard this reissue, but in the Something Wicked suite on the original CD -- at 5:02 -- the previous minute of the suite is repeated.

My assumption is that this was originally an editing error, and presumably amended on this new release.


Huh. Interesting.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2020 - 12:47 AM   
 By:   governor   (Member)


Also no one mentioned it but Beaches and Steel Magnolias were also conducted by Frank Fitzpatrick. not Delerue.


.... Really ?????

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 10, 2022 - 4:28 PM   
 By:   rfkavanagh   (Member)

Did anyone ever figure out if this release was actually remastered or not? The Varèse blurb says they remastered all the tracks, but the release itself is (p) 1990 with no indication of any remastering done. I already own all three original CDs and the Great Composers collection, so there's really no point in getting this if it doesn't have any changes in SQ (and the originals are great anyway).

Also, based on the bickering back and forth in this thread, I'm still left unsure about a few details:

- Is it 100% confirmed that the Crimes Of The Heart suite was not from the London sessions? (I'm assuming it was not.)

- Is this the only release that includes the minute-shorter version of the Something Wicked This Way Comes suite?

- There are two legitimately London sessions tracks that were on the original releases that are not included here, right?

I hate when labels pull this kind of insanity - and in this case, if all the above is true, outright lie in their publicity materials (not to mention the title).

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 10, 2022 - 5:26 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)



- Is it 100% confirmed that the Crimes Of The Heart suite was not from the London sessions? (I'm assuming it was not.)


It is not. It's the same old same old suite.



- Is this the only release that includes the minute-shorter version of the Something Wicked This Way Comes suite?


Yes.


- There are two legitimately London sessions tracks that were on the original releases that are not included here, right?


Yes.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 10, 2022 - 6:13 PM   
 By:   rfkavanagh   (Member)



- Is it 100% confirmed that the Crimes Of The Heart suite was not from the London sessions? (I'm assuming it was not.)


It is not. It's the same old same old suite.



- Is this the only release that includes the minute-shorter version of the Something Wicked This Way Comes suite?


Yes.


- There are two legitimately London sessions tracks that were on the original releases that are not included here, right?


Yes.


Thanks! Any idea if the newer release was truly remastered?

 
 Posted:   Jun 10, 2022 - 8:01 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

The original releases sound amazing! I don't see how they could benefit from a "remastering".

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 10, 2022 - 10:50 PM   
 By:   rfkavanagh   (Member)

The original releases sound amazing! I don't see how they could benefit from a "remastering".

No question the original releases sound great. My query is more due to Varèse specifically stating in their PR release that they remastered them for this release, but there's no indication of that on the release itself and its phonographic copyright is still listed as 1990.

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2023 - 4:38 AM   
 By:   Juanki   (Member)

Is it worthy to get the GREAT COMPOSER issue having the latest CLUB release? Thanks!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2023 - 5:18 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Is it worthy to get the GREAT COMPOSER issue having the latest CLUB release? Thanks!

Only if you really need those extra OST tracks. Everything on the more recent release is on the Great Composers set and the rest of the tracks are from other OSTs that Varese put out.

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2023 - 5:56 AM   
 By:   Juanki   (Member)

Is it worthy to get the GREAT COMPOSER issue having the latest CLUB release? Thanks!

Only if you really need those extra OST tracks. Everything on the more recent release is on the Great Composers set and the rest of the tracks are from other OSTs that Varese put out.


Thanks! I own Agnes of God, Black Robe and A Little Romance soundtracks so it would only be for the two tracks missing, not a big price...

Feels odd that Varese didn't include those on the Club release.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2023 - 6:38 AM   
 By:   Nono   (Member)

No question the original releases sound great. My query is more due to Varèse specifically stating in their PR release that they remastered them for this release, but there's no indication of that on the release itself and its phonographic copyright is still listed as 1990.

Remastered by Patricia Sullivan (you can see her name on the back cover).

The original albums were probably mastered by Dan Hersch or Joe Gastwirt, who used to work for Varèse Sarabande at the time (the mastering engineer was not credited then).

The remastered reissue is louder and uses some compression, as most modern reissues.

 
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