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 Posted:   Aug 17, 2018 - 8:20 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I knew this would happen. Streaming services like Netflix and Amazon seem great until every studio starts up their own streaming service. Eventually you'll be putting out $12 bucks a month for 12 different streaming services if you want to watch this stuff.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/disney-pull-movies-netflix-launch-streaming-service-1027793

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2018 - 11:38 AM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

And this is why physical media is still probably the most reliable and most cost-effective way to go.

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2018 - 12:01 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

And there are plenty of pawn shops that have DVD's and Blu-Rays that are sitting there unsold, waiting for somebody to plop their money down.

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2018 - 1:07 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

I only subscribe to Netflix. I have Amazon Prime for the next year, but haven't really delved into what's available for streaming (aside from the godawful Saturday The 14th). I've always wanted to BUY and OWN movies rather than just renting them. Streaming is nice to see if I'll like a movie or show enough to buy it, but the majority of Netflix originals will never be released on a physical disc format, which pisses me off. mad


Plus, try to find a movie made before the year 2000 on Netflix.

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2018 - 2:17 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Actually the majority of Netflix originals are released on physical disk. At least they were in the beginning. Typically Netflix partners with a studio (one of the major studios) and Netflix maintains the rights for streaming and gives up the rights for DVD and Blu Ray sales. I know for example that House of Cards and Orange is the New Black have Blu-Rays available.

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2018 - 2:34 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I only subscribe to Netflix. I have Amazon Prime for the next year, but haven't really delved into what's available for streaming (aside from the godawful Saturday The 14th). I've always wanted to BUY and OWN movies rather than just renting them. Streaming is nice to see if I'll like a movie or show enough to buy it, but the majority of Netflix originals will never be released on a physical disc format, which pisses me off. mad


Plus, try to find a movie made before the year 2000 on Netflix.



???? There is a whole category reserved for classics from the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, etc...

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2018 - 5:01 PM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

And this is why physical media is still probably the most reliable and most cost-effective way to go.

Ain't that the truth. If the source is exclusively digital, you don't really own it.

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2018 - 6:11 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

I have a recurring dream that a new video rental store has opened in my neighborhood. ....
......then i wake up frown
Brm

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2018 - 6:11 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Bless my library!

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2018 - 7:59 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

That's why I don't put all my eggs in one basket. I've embraced iTunes, but I "own" what I purchase though it's digital. And I try very hard to get my digital copies by buying BluRays with digital copy, so if anything changes on the streaming front I still have the film in physical format.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2019 - 12:15 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

A recent article on Disney starting its own streaming service suggests that it could very well be a money-loser. The article says that Disney currently earns $500 million per year licensing its content to Netflix and other streaming services. So, before Disney makes a dime of profit from its own service, it first has to make up that lost revenue. At $7 per month per subscriber, Disney has to sign up 6 million subscribers just to cover that lost revenue. Then it has to cover the costs of running its own service, and only then does it start to make a profit.

Disney disclosed in January that losses at its streaming business — including its ESPN+ service, early spending on the yet unlaunched Disney+ and costs associated with its BAMTech technology asset — amounted to $1 billion in its latest fiscal year.

 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2019 - 7:03 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

A recent article on Disney starting its own streaming service suggests that it could very well be a money-loser. The article says that Disney currently earns $500 million per year licensing its content to Netflix and other streaming services. So, before Disney makes a dime of profit from its own service, it first has to make up that lost revenue. At $7 per month per subscriber, Disney has to sign up 6 million subscribers just to cover that lost revenue. Then it has to cover the costs of running its own service, and only then does it start to make a profit.

Disney disclosed in January that losses at its streaming business — including its ESPN+ service, early spending on the yet unlaunched Disney+ and costs associated with its BAMTech technology asset — amounted to $1 billion in its latest fiscal year.


ESPN has been losing money for years, so no surprise ESPN+ is tanking. As far as Disney streaming their gonna try original programming to bring customers in. They announced High School Musical the Mini Series as their first project. But did this work for CBS All Access and Star Trek? The bottom line, people can't afford to put out $12 a month for 20 different steaming services, which is were the big corps wants to eventual take us. Prices will surely increase over time too. Worse yet this becomes entertainment for the few who can afford it instead of for everyone. Most people just watch this stuff on those illegal streaming sites.

 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2019 - 8:17 AM   
 By:   Scott M (Oldsmith)   (Member)

The whole idea of streaming so I can "cut the cord" is now vanishing. I am not gonna pay $7 a month to watch one series. Or two. CBS All Access carries shows that I can see for free or I already have in my collection. Star Trek Discovery's first season is on Blu-Ray and I would rather pay one time to watch the show at my leisure in the best quality possible. CBS, Disney, DC Universe, Hulu, You Tube whatever...I just don't care to spend that kinda money on one or two shows. On top of Netflix and Prime, which I've always had.

Think about how many streaming services go under. Warner Archives was my favorite service. I got to watch to many great shows that are not repeated anywhere, like Harry O, Jericho, The Girl from UNCLE and Dr. Kildare. Even Irwin Allen's City Beneath the Sea was in its original aspect ratio, where the DVD is cropped to wide screen. It was cheaper than buying all of them. Now they're gone and Warner Archive DVDs aren't cheap.

Sooner or later, this will reach a saturation point and the streaming cash cow will stop producing milk.

 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2019 - 8:31 AM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)

Star Trek Discovery's first season is on Blu-Ray and I would rather pay one time to watch the show at my leisure in the best quality possible.

The irony of this statement is that the best quality currently possible for STD is on international Netflix - the Blu-Rays don't have the HDR pass that the international Netflix version of the show receives.

 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2019 - 8:35 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Star Trek Discovery's first season is on Blu-Ray and I would rather pay one time to watch the show at my leisure in the best quality possible.

The irony of this statement is that the best quality currently possible for STbig grin is on international Netflix - the Blu-Rays don't have the HDR pass that the international Netflix version of the show receives.


Assuming you have quality equipment and fast streaming. ISP's in the states are already throttling the stream regardless. Blu Rays are generally the better medium.

 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2019 - 8:38 AM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)

Star Trek Discovery's first season is on Blu-Ray and I would rather pay one time to watch the show at my leisure in the best quality possible.

The irony of this statement is that the best quality currently possible for STD is on international Netflix - the Blu-Rays don't have the HDR pass that the international Netflix version of the show receives.


Assuming you have quality equipment and fast streaming. ISP's in the states are already throttling the stream regardless. Blu Rays are generally the better medium.


Standard Blu-Rays can't support HDR anyway.

 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2019 - 8:50 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

The burning question is will Disney put Fluppy Dogs on Disney+?

Probably not! big grin

 
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