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This "deliberately paced" flick would have benefited enormously from an elegant score that teased out the emotion and enhanced the eerie atmosphere and sense of wonder (think ALIEN). Instead we get a lot of ambient noise and mood organ stylings. I'm frustrated because the film's inevitable failure will scarcely encourage Disney (or anyone else) to invest in ambitious standalone SF projects. We're bound to get more Marvel spinoffs and animated remakes, though.
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Sep 18, 2019 - 8:40 AM
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Actually, I found the score VERY elegant.
Saw it for the second time today, at an IMAX theatre.
I think the electronic thing is Richter, actually, and Balfe's material some slightly more generic music for the more dramatic moments (think a lesser version of Wallfisch's BR2049 material).
I also sat through the end credits this time, and noticed that two other composers were listed with 'additional music': Nils Frahm -- who I've heard about, but never listened to, as far as I can recall. The other was Robert Charles Mann, who I've never even heard about. So that means Richter, Balfe, Frahm and Mann!
Additionally, the film uses some existing music -- including a concert piece by main composer Richter ("Stormy Sea" something) and one piece by Frahm (which I assume is different from the original score he provided). The other song credits rushed by so quickly, I didn't have the time to read them.
What a tangled web! No wonder no one has heard anything about a soundtrack album yet.
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Would be easier probably to just show who DIDN'T write additional music.
Such a shame that all the artistic compromises in Hollywood these days are made with the screenplay and music.
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Well, this movie doesn't appear to be the same old "event-styled" dreck (Avengers: Endgame), and Richter has done well in movies before (Hostiles).
So, even if this is ultimately a committee score, the ostensible theme and production value of the movie are pushing me towards a discount day showing next week (bump that up to Cinerama Dome if the reviews are stellar).
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The reviews from the Hollywood trades are equivocal: a solid movie, but not stellar.
Though the reviews do indicate a certain ambition to transcendent cinema by writer-director James Gray.
I dunno. On one hand, a movie with some deflated ambition is probably suitable for discount day. On the other hand, if the only stifled ambition is in the combined character/theme department, the Cinerama Dome could provide the boost that edges this material over the quality hump.
What do my fellow sci-fi/score fans think?
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Sep 18, 2019 - 4:00 PM
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TS.J9712
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Actually, I found the score VERY elegant.
Saw it for the second time today, at an IMAX theatre.
I think the electronic thing is Richter, actually, and Balfe's material some slightly more generic music for the more dramatic moments (think a lesser version of Wallfisch's BR2049 material).
I also sat through the end credits this time, and noticed that two other composers were listed with 'additional music': Nils Frahm -- who I've heard about, but never listened to, as far as I can recall. The other was Robert Charles Mann, who I've never even heard about. So that means Richter, Balfe, Frahm and Mann!
Additionally, the film uses some existing music -- including a concert piece by main composer Richter ("Stormy Sea" something) and one piece by Frahm (which I assume is different from the original score he provided). The other song credits rushed by so quickly, I didn't have the time to read them.
What a tangled web! No wonder no one has heard anything about a soundtrack album yet.
According to what the moderator of Hans Zimmer.com says, Lorne Balfe composed music for the whole movie. The final product of film music is actually a collage of partial Richter and partial Balfe (a bit more than 50% is from Richter's complete score, the rest is from Balfe's score)
So it's really a case of The White Fang here. Also Balfe replied on twitter, indicating we can expect a soundtrack release "soon". I guess compiling tracks for this soundtrack is apparently complicating, so a release by this weekend is not possible.
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There's a few logic and tech holes in this piece, though I recommend it for being brave enough to give us a trenchant, introspective look at today's humanity through the means of a melodramatic sci-fi mini-epic.
Interesting is the degree to which the protagonist Roy McBride (Brad Pitt) calmly submits to unending monitoring by his military branch's artificial intelligence apparatus.
I think that's the key to the real heart of the film.
Also, Donald Sutherland's small supporting role adds a lot to the movie.
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Probably not, when you consider that IMDb, for instance, only credits Richter.
That's not how IMDb works.
As another user pointed out from seeing the film, Balfe is credited with additional music after Max, in the end credits. Additional music credits do not go under the main Composers section, they go under Music Department, and indeed if you look, Balfe is credited under the Music Department section.
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