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 Posted:   Sep 18, 2018 - 11:56 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

https://www.stanandollie.co.uk/videos/

Looks wonderful. There are definitely Stan's tones in Coogan's voice. Cannot wait.

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2018 - 8:32 PM   
 By:   GreatGonzo   (Member)

I cannot make up my mind as to how I feel about this. It is bound to contain a fair amount of revisionist hokum, and yet I almost cried just seeing them film the dance from Way Out West.

I just don't know....



https://www.stanandollie.co.uk/videos/

Looks wonderful. There are definitely Stan's tones in Coogan's voice. Cannot wait.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2018 - 8:50 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

I suspect that despite the 'revisionist' stuff that will inevitably be in there (did Stan ever say "I love him"? 81 year old I know will raise an eyebrow to that one), there'll be plenty to enjoy too. They've said they won't be whitewashing too much of the real people, but it's clearly respectful.

It's going to bring Laurel and Hardy to millions who might not otherwise seek them out, and for a short time, even boost their popularity.

The two stars are clearly doing good work. I knew Coogan had Stan's deep real voice, and being a good impressionist he'll also be able to do Stan the performer. He can be funny in his own right, and I get the feeling he might just cut between a genuine acting performance and impression in the right measures. He's also from the north west of the UK, so some part of their basic accents already have similarities.

I'd just like to know where else in the UK will get the premier, as the publicity does say it will get a simultaneous showing throughout Britain.

The fact the trailer already tugs at our heartstrings gives me good feelings about this. So much I can't wait to see. Hal Roach, and James Finlayson for starters.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2018 - 12:27 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Stunning. From that trailer, at times, it looked like they had been resurrected to play themselves. For that alone all official Sons of the Desert and sons of the Desert will flock to this one in droves.

 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2018 - 7:36 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

I don't know either. I might just watch their old films* instead of going to see something that, like too many other bio films, takes license to crowbar dramatic shape into their story.

*Because I certainly have not seen all of them, by far.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2018 - 8:05 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

Stunning. From that trailer, at times, it looked like they had been resurrected to play themselves. For that alone all official Sons of the Desert and sons of the Desert will flock to this one in droves.

Absolutely. All of my Tent for certain. Wouldn't be surprised if we have a Tent outing together for it. If one of those UK premiers is in Sheffield you can be sure the Brats will be there in force!

And, DiD, I think it's already done one of it's jobs if you really are going to watch some of the boys' actual films. I have seen them all, and while inevitably some are better than others, they're all worth watching. The Hal Roach years especially of course.

This new movie is more essential to we Sons than the rest of the population, and I'd say we're comfortable with it in the main.

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2018 - 8:27 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I don't know either. I might just watch their old films* instead of going to see something that, like too many other bio films, takes license to crowbar dramatic shape into their story.

*Because I certainly have not seen all of them, by far.


I used to love biopics until I've learned how far they push the "fiction" in these films.

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2018 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

Well, I have very mixed feelings about this one. The performers look great. The concocted "conflict" will, hopefully, not override the genuine love and sweetness that existed between Stan and Babe. And I knew both Ida Laurel, Lucille Hardy Price (their widows) and Lois Laurel. So I can make that statement with authority. I also knew Stan's valley Jimmy Murphy. None of them, nor did any of their co-stars such as Anita Garvin, ever intimate there was ever any serious resentment or animosity between them. Other teams, you bet. But not Laurel and Hardy.

So we'll see. I will definitely go to the picture. But I will NOT wear my fez to the theater!!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2018 - 11:41 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

Well, I have very mixed feelings about this one. The performers look great. The concocted "conflict" will, hopefully, not override the genuine love and sweetness that existed between Stan and Babe. And I knew both Ida Laurel, Lucille Hardy Price (their widows) and Lois Laurel. So I can make that statement with authority. I also knew Stan's valley Jimmy Murphy. None of them, nor did any of their co-stars such as Anita Garvin, ever intimate there was ever any serious resentment or animosity between them. Other teams, you bet. But not Laurel and Hardy.

So we'll see. I will definitely go to the picture. But I will NOT wear my fez to the theater!!


You spoil sport! Ha, ha.. I wondered how long it would take you to come to this particular party.

I really think that the main point here will be to support the boys and their work. Yes, we all know what 'these' people are capable of when it comes to biopics, but I reckon that there will be at least as much reverence as anything else here.

Believe me, I'll be the first to complain on here and anywhere else if things aren't good enough!

Btw, a couple of years ago a fellow Son managed to get ( I think it was) three double bills of L&H films played across at least two cinema chains in the UK for a one night only showing. I remember distinctly that out of all the folks there only one was wearing a fez - and a fez-o-rama one at that (not cheap) and he wasn't a member of our (or any) Tent!

DOH!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2018 - 5:17 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

LOL omg Ray!

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2018 - 5:17 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

John C. Reilly? I know the name, I know the face, but I couldn't remember him from anything because he's done a lot of stuff and all I got was a generalized blur in the head. Then I remembered The River Wild.

But to see him as OH is virtually unbelievable. There are always problems with biopics - look no further than Attenborough's Chaplin. But Philomena is a good film with an impressive enough script so, let's wait and see. For things to work there has to be a good double-act. In Philomena it was the interplay between the unlikely pairing up of the Coogan and Dench characters. If you haven't yet seen the film, it is definitely worth taking a peek because within the generally dour atmosphere there are a couple of genuine laughter benders.

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2018 - 6:39 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)


And, DiD, I think it's already done one of it's jobs if you really are going to watch some of the boys' actual films.



True, this.

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2018 - 8:27 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Well, I have very mixed feelings about this one. The performers look great. The concocted "conflict" will, hopefully, not override the genuine love and sweetness that existed between Stan and Babe. And I knew both Ida Laurel, Lucille Hardy Price (their widows) and Lois Laurel. So I can make that statement with authority. I also knew Stan's valley Jimmy Murphy. None of them, nor did any of their co-stars such as Anita Garvin, ever intimate there was ever any serious resentment or animosity between them. Other teams, you bet. But not Laurel and Hardy.

So we'll see. I will definitely go to the picture. But I will NOT wear my fez to the theater!!


Looking forward to the film and Ray F. remarks [ so long as he doesn't use the term "historical inaccuracies" wink]

btw Coogan is a modern day Peter Sellars. He will be great!

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2018 - 10:11 PM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

Looking forward to the film and Ray F. remarks [ so long as he doesn't use the term "historical inaccuracies" wink

I avoid that phrase like the plague!! smile

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2018 - 10:48 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Looking forward to the film and Ray F. remarks [ so long as he doesn't use the term "historical inaccuracies" wink

I avoid that phrase like the plague!! smile


Atta boy!!!!!

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2018 - 3:38 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Couple clips thrown up at youtube, probably L nH affionados already seen.

https://youtu.be/tdgegW5Xmp0
This is your life

Laurel interview
https://youtu.be/o0OMS7OBxU0

James findlayson tribute clips
https://youtu.be/zN921xZbiVQ

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2018 - 8:08 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

Couple clips thrown up at youtube, probably L nH affionados already seen.

https://youtu.be/tdgegW5Xmp0
This is your life

Laurel interview
https://youtu.be/o0OMS7OBxU0

James findlayson tribute clips
https://youtu.be/zN921xZbiVQ


Yep, seen everything there but hey, you can't have to much Laurel and Hardy in your life, and they're nice for anyone not familiar with them.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2018 - 8:36 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Yeah I've seen those too. Been trying to remember the days as a kid when m'Dad would turn on the TV every Sat. (or Sun.?) afternoon and watch L&H on channel 5 or 11 or whatever. It was them second, Bowery Boys 1st. I believe.

Oh and which was the one when Ollie got stuck in the floor and Stan pulled his neck up about 10 feet? That and the one with the moonshine in the well (HORNS!). Oh and Oxford and don't call me Fatty! Crap these stick out forever big grin

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2018 - 9:23 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

The one with the cabin and the moonshine in the well i saw recently. It had moments.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2018 - 9:28 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I started out laughing at my Dad, laughing at them on the telly.
Then I got a wee bit older and 'got' what my Dad was laughing at.
Just brilliant, priceless comedy and buffoonery.

 
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