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 Posted:   Sep 19, 2018 - 5:09 AM   
 By:   PatrickB   (Member)

Saying he will only do films with Tornatore is like Williams saying he will only do Spielberg films. A) It is pretty much already true B) He might be talked into breaking that rule. For instance possibly Tarantino's ONCE UPON A TIME IN HOLLWOOD.

Thanks, Laurent. So sad news …, even if predictable.
He decreased his film works, and to stop is logical, but I didn’t want to believe he would officially stop. Although he already announced that he will write scores only for Tornatore, in November 2017 (at the end of the interview):
https://www.ilsole24ore.com/art/commenti-e-idee/2017-11-12/l-oscar-piu-bello-mi-fu-negato-171413.shtml?uuid=AEtPok2C&refresh_ce=1
(reprised as news in Maestro #15)

I wanted, I want to believe that Tarantino is an exception, or that maybe something is already written for "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood". Even one track! Like a signature, an “addio” to international cinema.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2018 - 5:53 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Curious thread title; I read it as Morricone wanting to "stop" film music, as in "thou shalt not pass!", putting a lid on all film music coming out! smile Perhaps 'stops making' or better yet 'retires from' would be a better title.

In any case, I'll believe it when I see it. If he does indeed retire permanently from film music, that's his right and privilege at that age. If he doesn't, that's a nice bonus too. I still have hundreds of old Morricone scores to explore. What a catalogue!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2018 - 7:17 AM   
 By:   Laurent78   (Member)

Sorry Thor if the title of the thread is misleading. Like Patrick B. and I said, it's just a confirmation given to the press of a choice Morricone made at least one year ago. I know Patrick had great expectations about a possible new collaboration with Tarantino but it's rather unlikely to happen. Let's see what will actually happen.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2018 - 7:27 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

Very sad but what a fantastic life and career. I hope he enjoys his retirement.

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2018 - 8:25 AM   
 By:   Mike S   (Member)

What a sad day, but I supposed if he's stopping, then it means he knows it's time for some reason or another.

He's explaining that there are too many constraints when working for the cinema. For a man of his age, I can easily understand it.


Yeah, but exactly what new constraints has he experienced that he hasn't experienced for the last decade? I think there's something else behind this move.


Sounds like the change isn't in the constraints but in Morricone's tolerance for them.

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2018 - 8:30 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

That's a good point. But if true, why didn't he just say that? I've read very little words by him, comparatively speaking to other composers, so I don't know what his general candor is.

What ever the way, I hope he still says "Yes" to certain projects, if good stuff comes his way from another director.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2018 - 8:46 AM   
 By:   Pedestrian Wolf   (Member)

From the thread title, it almost looked like Morricone had put a stop to the entire concept of film music, and I was like “Well film music had a good run - if anybody has the authority to shut it down, I guess it’s him!”

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2018 - 9:06 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

From the thread title, it almost looked like Morricone had put a stop to the entire concept of film music, and I was like “Well film music had a good run - if anybody has the authority to shut it down, I guess it’s him!”

That's just what I said above! smile

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2018 - 9:22 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

From the thread title, it almost looked like Morricone had put a stop to the entire concept of film music, and I was like “Well film music had a good run - if anybody has the authority to shut it down, I guess it’s him!”

To be fair, considering what black water we've been getting in this genre, it truly may be best to seal the doors.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2018 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   Pedestrian Wolf   (Member)

From the thread title, it almost looked like Morricone had put a stop to the entire concept of film music, and I was like “Well film music had a good run - if anybody has the authority to shut it down, I guess it’s him!”

That's just what I said above! smile


I don’t have time to read threads, Thor - just thread titles!

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2018 - 10:48 AM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

He can't stop film music. I haven't heard Pinar Toprak's score to Captain Marvel yet!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2018 - 6:52 PM   
 By:   Smaug   (Member)

Is it me or is this a non-non-Story? If he made this announcement before in 1984, maybe he did have a sincere wish to be more of an entity in the concert world. But seeing as he didn’t really take that path at this point he is who he is as an artist. He’s really a non-entity in the concert world. No orchestras play his concert works regularly, even if he has a broad catalogue.

He is in much the same boat as Williams. Of course still much in demand in film. But never having caught on as concert composers. Very few film composers have made any headway in the concert hall.

Williams has arguably written far more concert music since 2005 than film music. But you really cannot compare film music popularity to concert hall acceptance and respect.

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2018 - 7:19 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

With an ouevre 3 or 4 times the size of most other film composers, we can hardly whinge if he stops considering all the music available to us from his pen!!
It was a remarkable thing that he was still working and if it means he will write say 2 more brilliant projects for tornatore considering what their previous collaborations have brought us, im thrilled at that prospect.
Lately we have had italian rai projects that dont make a CD anyway so him taking longer over tornatore films is kinda great news.


I am going to start a The "Crying Carson Morricone" thread.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2018 - 1:30 PM   
 By:   leagolfer   (Member)

Saying he will only do films with Tornatore is like Williams saying he will only do Spielberg films. A) It is pretty much already true B) He might be talked into breaking that rule. For instance possibly Tarantino's ONCE UPON A TIME IN HOLLWOOD.

Thanks, Laurent. So sad news …, even if predictable.
He decreased his film works, and to stop is logical, but I didn’t want to believe he would officially stop. Although he already announced that he will write scores only for Tornatore, in November 2017 (at the end of the interview):
https://www.ilsole24ore.com/art/commenti-e-idee/2017-11-12/l-oscar-piu-bello-mi-fu-negato-171413.shtml?uuid=AEtPok2C&refresh_ce=1
(reprised as news in Maestro #15)

I wanted, I want to believe that Tarantino is an exception, or that maybe something is already written for "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood". Even one track! Like a signature, an “addio” to international cinema.


Tarantino has used Morricone tracks in his films before, he is a fan of the maestro - guessing he will use some think again soon enough, maybe OUATIH.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2018 - 2:01 PM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

MAY I POINT OUT JOURNALISTS AND HOW THEY TRANSLATE AND INTERPRET MORRICONE HAVE PRETTY MUCH SUCKED OVER THE YEARS.


There are many examples of this. One prominent one was an interpretation of a quote from him "that he could never work for a director like Quentin Tarantino". When he did, he was called on it and simply answered back that was a total misunderstanding of what he said. Indeed, it was in a classroom setting and he was asked about one of the needledrop Tarantino cues in KILL BILL, and a better translation was "I couldn't work in the manner this music was utilized." There are other examples so let's not get dramatic until he says he is hanging up his baton for good.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2018 - 2:06 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

With an ouevre 3 or 4 times the size of most other film composers, we can hardly whinge if he stops considering all the music available to us from his pen!!
It was a remarkable thing that he was still working and if it means he will write say 2 more brilliant projects for tornatore considering what their previous collaborations have brought us, im thrilled at that prospect.
Lately we have had italian rai projects that dont make a CD anyway so him taking longer over tornatore films is kinda great news.


I am going to start a The "Crying Carson Morricone" thread.



Has Bill told you his birthday card story?

 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2018 - 2:17 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

MAY I POINT OUT JOURNALISTS AND HOW THEY TRANSLATE AND INTERPRET MORRICONE HAVE PRETTY MUCH SUCKED OVER THE YEARS.

There are many examples of this. One prominent one was an interpretation of a quote from him "that he could never work for a director like Quentin Tarantino". When he did, he was called on it and simply answered back that was a total misunderstanding of what he said. Indeed, it was in a classroom setting and he was asked about one of the needledrop Tarantino cues in KILL BILL, and a better translation was "I couldn't work in the manner this music was utilized." There are other examples so let's not get dramatic until he says he is hanging up his baton for good.


I agree with all of this. And even if accurate, if he's still composing for Tornatore he's not really retired, just cutting back on his output some, which at this point in his life makes sense.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2018 - 7:47 AM   
 By:   leagolfer   (Member)

Glad he's retiring, time for plenty of veal & red sauce - EM has nothing else to prove his cv is untouchable - this industry for some years now can undermine your work. Many thanks Ennio you composed memorable classics, great-ones.

 
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